Puget Sound Energy Offers $500 EVSE Rebate – Video

FEB 11 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 11

For a limited time only, Puget Sound Energy is offering the following:

PSE wants to make it easier for its electric customers to upgrade to a fast home charger to save energy, and help PSE plan for more electric vehicles in our area. For a limited time, qualified PSE residential customers can get a $500 rebate on the purchase of more than 30 types of Level 2 electric vehicle chargers.

You’ll find complete details on this $500 rebate program here.

The video features Puget Sound Energy’s Ray Lane with a few customers who have already taken advantage of the rebate program.

$500 EVSE Rebate

$500 EVSE Rebate

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The above link doesn’t currently work. I’d be interested to know, if I lived there, if Do IT Yourselfers could also get the rebate. The you could get that 16 amp powermax (if thats what it is) for free, since $500 would cover it. Its probably great for electricians also. Its interesting that they say the Utility will be able to ‘see how it affects the grid’ since I didn’t think those power max, nor the second clipper creek unit had any telemetrics to them. I wouldn’t think 5000 customers (assuming they get all the takers for their offerings) is going to tell them much they didn’t already know. 7000 watts from i3’s start to be a bit of issue, whereas 3300-3600 watt volts aren’t. Frost free refrigerators and the popularity of central air conditioning where it isn’t strictly needed (such as here and in my town) affected the GRID more, and they didn’t have ‘SERIOUS STUDIES’ about it. I dare say, CFL’s, LED’s, more efficient electronics, Energy star appliances and airconditioning (EERS of 13 rather than 6 1/2) save far, far more electricity than EV’s can ever hope make up the difference. But, charging overnight, since it makes good… Read more »

Fixed the link. Sorry ’bout that.

EVERY utility should have such a rebate. Getting EVs on the road is definitely in their interest. And every new EV sold is a new EV ambassador that will talk to their neighbors about their EV and thus may cause a snowball effect.

Hi Bill,
I’m the guy who gave a quick overview of the program in the video above. We’ll be studying the customers through a combination of end use metering, standard metering and data logging. We won’t be relying on direct data from the chargers since, as you said, most of the chargers are “dumb” chargers and many of the vehicles don’t have the advanced telematics we are looking for.

While we may have some assumptions and probably some good guesses about EV impacts on the grid, we still need to document this in a study if we are to have a good case for the implementation of new rate schedules or other programs with the utilities commission.

You’re also correct about the efficiency gains. They are fairly minimal going from 120-240VAC but I think the marketing language is looking at a slightly different definition of efficiency and figuring in the customer’s time to charge as well as the minimal efficiency gains from stepping up the voltage.

Oh, and yes, do-it-yourselfers are eligible for the rebate as long as they meet all relevant electrical codes and pass inspection.

Thanks for your feedback,

Zach Bates
PSE EV Program

Zach, It is always refreshing to see a positive outlook on the changing business model between progressive energy providers and the changing relationships with customers. I am very interested in any information you have on when and where your company sees as the best model between EV as well as EV-PV owners. I drive a Chevy Volt and have a 5kWh grid tied solar array. My energy co-op, who buys from Duke Energy, currently chargers a reasonable .12/kWh but only offers a .05/kWh wholesale for the energy put back on the grid. Fortunately, we had five years of aggregate assistance but alas, that soon comes to an end. I use roughly 6000 kWh/year and sell roughly the same. At the current rates, I will pay $14,400 for my electricity over the next 20 year life of my array, while receiving $6,000 in return. This leaves $8,400 difference that could be applied toward a one day storage battery. The $14 monthly meter charge x 20 years could provide $3,360 toward a backup generator. This is not the route I want to go. It is much better to have a continued relationship with the utility company. The EV-PV community is more than… Read more »

So Mark,
I gather your serving utility keeps two separate counters – the amount you use from them and the amount you send back to them? My utility uses only 1 of the counters and just implements a piggy back strategy such that I give and take all day, at essentially the 12-13 cents that I bought it at.
My aniversary month is June, so then presumeably I’ll be cut a check for hopefully 5 cents per kilowatt-hour since I make much more than I use (38 panels – supposedly 9300 kwh in solar dimmed Buffalo, but thats with nothing during the winter months.

If the utility doesn’t implement a piggy bank strategy, then you’re going to have to do the battery thing. The utility may claim 60 months of assistance is more than fair, which is a point.

People are already complaining that EV owners get tax breaks, something unfair for the ‘rich’. My attitude is that they can talk about me after they’ve implemented the “1% Wall St. Sales Tax”.

I am not making any demands of them for that is pointless anyway. Yes they can make the 60 month claim. I am simply pointing out the math and that it might be in my interest to buy a battery if things do not change. I am hoping that the offset to peak load from 10:00-3:00 combined with my willingness to charge at night is still of value to them. If not, it is kind of a lose-lose for both of us. This company seems to be more on the ball than ours. I still have a very favorable rate half way through 2016. I will probably do nothing until 2018 time frame where I feel there are going to be some attractive batteries available. Meanwhile, I am still hopeful.

Seems like a good deal for both you and your customers… But I think you already can accurately predict the load profile, and, other than I3 style charging, you pretty know what to expect already.

Thanks for the clarification. A win win for both u and ur subscribers.

Great info all around, thanks everyone!

I’m a PSE customer with a 2014 Model S 85 (dual chargers) who has been using the Tesla mobile charger at home.

With the reduction in cost from $1200 to $750 for the Tesla HPWC and now PSE rebating $500, I made the jump yesterday and bought one online.

WA state has a sales tax exemption that covers EVSE. If you intend to take advantage of this exemption, you will need to download, fill out this form and provide it to the seller.

http://dor.wa.gov/docs/forms/excstx/exmptfrm/buyersretailtxexmptcert_e.pdf

It would be fun to see what Puget Sound Energy would do if just by dumb luck there was some long street where each house had 1 or 2 teslas and a ‘few’ 19kw chargers in every house… I wouldn’t expect this, but then neither would they, and I wonder what their reaction would be other than changing transformers all over the place.