Proton Iriz Electric Car Debuts

OCT 3 2015 BY MARK KANE 35

Proton, a Malaysian carmaker, recently presented at the 2015 International Greentech & Eco Products Exhibition and Conference Malaysia the electric version of its Iriz model.

With a 39.6 kWh battery pack (featuring LG Chem cells), Proton Iriz EV can go up to 300 km (186 miles) under NEDC.

Also, the 116 kW/360 Nm electric motor enables decent acceleration of 0-62 mph (100 kmh) in 9 seconds. Top speed is 150 km/h (93 mph).

Charging seems to be copied from the Nissan LEAF – 6.6 kW on-board and 50 kW DC (probably CHAdeMO, as there is no info). From 40% to full charge takes 15 minutes, according to the article.

It’s expected that production of Iriz EV could materialize by the end of 2016/early 2017.

Proton Iriz EV (source: paultan.org)

Proton Iriz EV (source: paultan.org)

Source: paultan.org

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Not anywhere near as fugly as the Leaf… Looks more like a bigger Smart, to me. Cute little death trap. 🙂

little cars are hardly ‘death traps’. Motorcycles, yes, but even a small modern car is safe enough.

Of course they are deathtraps, but only because of the amount of people who insist on driving around in tank like the f150 and other unnecessary death machines.

Little cars in this case are hardly up to US/Euro standards, which exceed Japanese crash testing, which exceeds Malaysian testing. The US has offset and side impact testing, among others. Last I heard, Malaysia only does one test.

It’s not a death trap. Proton aims to score a 5-star ANCAP/ EuroNCAP rating with the Iriz. It has 6 airbags, ESC and hot pressed parts, with more tech like Autonomous Emergency Braking, Lane Watch, Blind Spot Assist and more in the works.

Well, from what I’m seeing, it’s a re-badged Hyundai i10. Basically one of the best superminis on sale in Europe. Almost always being compared to the VW Up!, so I’d doubt it would be a death trap at all.

Physics + Morbidity & Mortality Statistics = Death Trap

Only the top-spec trim level gets 6 airbags. “Aims to score” makes nice ads but says next to nothing- hence ads.

Make the little cage redirect force and make it bounce– and the resulting G-Forces will snap your neck.

Passenger Cell Penetration is not required to kill you.

It does look better (less weird) than the Leaf, Kia Soul EV, Spark EV, and BMW i3. That’s a good thing.

This car will NOT have a 186 mile real-world range unless you’re driving at <30 mph in perfect conditions without using climate control. The Proton would get a 128-mile EPA range rating which is quite good for right now, but not good enough for 2017 unless it costs the same or less than the 84-mile Leaf does today. It's great to see improvement, but I can't wait for the Tesla Model III!

Tesla Model 3 is coming to Malaysia??

The last second of one video shows a chart name “Battery module specification” and it’s written Capacity 6.6 kWh.
Of course that contradict the 39.6 kWh claim unless there is 7 modules which isn’t shown.

I think the confusion is that there is an encased actual module on display alongside the car for show goers to view, and this spec sheet is attached to it…but that isn’t very clear in the picture/video as there isn’t a ‘wide’ shot. Each Iriz would have 6 of these inside.

Hence the term “module.” And not “pack.”

I see something taking place here. LG Chem and a couple others are going to be the battery pack suppliers. Others the electric motors/software etc. Doesn’t that sort of ‘white label’ the guts of a car at that point? i.e. the drive train becomes a commodity and this lowers the barrier to entry into the market which allows nearly any car company to suddenly be able to produce a 200 mile electric vehicle.

If there is a bunch of spare capacity idle.

IMO that is pretty much exactly what will happen. You’ll have a few battery suppliers that can deliver a pack at the right price that give “200 miles”, Panasonic, byd, lg, plus a few others. At this point there will have to be other differentiators. I can’t imagine tesla and proton selling to the same customers. I’d love to see byd and proton selling in the US and EU, maybe that would help the likes of Toyota and GM find their teeth and actually start mass manufacturer of phev’s and bev’s.

On the other side of that coin, it disturbs me somewhat that LG looks like it could take over most of the market for these batteries. If that happens, I wouldn’t look for pricing to improve after that. Monopolies prices aren’t often good for the end user of their product.

Depends what the competitor threat is. Sony and Samsung make lithium batteries last I checked, they both have some growth potential if the customers are there. Maybe they’ll go for it, maybe not.

2017: The year of all 300 km EVs 🙂

This vehicle is closer to 210km/130mi. I would have thought people realised by now that the NEDC is a crock of shite.

If you’re trying (literally) to get through central London in a cage, maybe not a total crock.

This car will NOT have a 186 mile real-world range unless you’re driving at <30 mph in perfect conditions without using climate control. The Proton would get a 128-mile EPA range rating which is quite good for right now, but not good enough for 2017 unless it costs the same or less than the 84-mile Leaf does today. It's great to see improvement!

Given similar overall vehicle efficiency to my Leaf (approx 4 miles/kWh including some climate control and highway use) this car would have about 150 mile range with normal driving. That’s pretty decent IMO.

I wonder what market they’re aiming at.
Until now, they were primarily a carmaker for their local market, and to a lesser extent other low-end Asian markets.
I don’t think EVs will be significant in Malaysia anytime soon, both because petrol is relatively cheap and because EVs are still expensive up front.
They’re also not a company likely to spend resources on concept cars just for the image… Are they thinking export?

Thanks!
China I guess makes sense, with a large market with buyer incentives for EVs (although competing against Chinese brand will likely be tough).

Any competition is welcome competition. I like it.

Does somebody know how much the price is in USD or EUR and if they have dealers in Europe ?

I don’t think the ICE car is beyond prototype stage yet (the InsideEVs article says production maybe in a year).

They do sell in Europe, but apparently very little:
http://left-lane.com/european-car-sales-data/proton/

This appears to be the UK importer:
http://www.proton.co.uk/
Looks like they used to be sold in Germany, but not since 2001:
http://proton-car.de.t/Proton_Deutschland.htm

Wow, this car looks very interesting.

If the numbers hold up through production, this will be a great car. It is light (1380 kg) with a good power to weight ratio (116kW motor) and good range.

Slowly, very slowly we are learning more about the next generation of LG batteries

This week GM announced a price of $145/kWh for the Volt 2.0 batteries. I do not think that statement applies to Bolt.

My assumption is that the long range EVs such as Bolt/Iriz/Audi/etc will use a new and improved chemistry that is smaller/lighter and more expensive that Volt 2.0.

The video here mentions 138Wh/kg, which means the Iriz battery weighs 287kg, and if the Bolt gets a 50kWh pack, it would weigh about 360kg.

60% in 15 minutes is not doable! 60% of ~40kWh is 24kWh. They state a 50kW plug and this will be 30min/24kWh.

Either they have only 20,8 of 40kWh usable or the plug will be 100kW able or marketing divison sucked.

Poor aerodynamics, anonymous 0815 front. A design you will have forgot before half of the car has passed you.