Proterra Orders 57 Veefil Fast Chargers

MAR 23 2018 BY MARK KANE 11

Proterra is going with the CCS Combo DC fast charging standard for its electric buses so that the infrastructure will be universal for any CCS vehicles now and in the future.

Tritium Veefil-RT fast chargers for Proterra electric buses

The bus maker recently ordered 57 Tritium Veefil-RT chargers that supplie up to 50 kW DC – enough for an overnight charge, even for batteries as large as in the case of buses.

As you can see in the video above, Proterra Catalyst buses already were used with Tritium’s chargers in Louisiana.

“After a trial of the Veefil-RT, Tritium worked closely with the Proterra team to provide a series of modifications to the software to meet the company’s requirements.

The chargers are the first for the public transport sector to be manufactured at the company’s recently opened sales and manufacturing facility in Torrance, California and will be available to Proterra customers across the US.”

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Matt Horton, Chief Commercial Officer at Proterra said:

“We aim to partner with like-minded companies. Proterra needed to resource a reliable, standards-based J1772 CCS plug-in charger for our Catalyst range of energy-efficient buses and were looking for a supplier with a similarly innovative approach to technology with the capability to tailor their product to our specifications.”

Greg Lary, who heads up Tritium in the US said:

“The US is a major market for us, and now we have a sales and manufacturing facility in the country that replicates the high standards we’ve established at our global HQ in Brisbane, we are ideally placed to offer not only bespoke requirements, but also a full after sales service to clients.”

Veefil-RT DC 50kW fast charger and Proterra electric bus

Veefil-RT DC 50kW fast charger and Proterra electric bus

source: Green Car Congress

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11 Comments on "Proterra Orders 57 Veefil Fast Chargers"

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(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

Can you really call 50Kw fast charger for a buss?

Sort of – they’re using fast chargers to slow charge overnight!

I don’t call 50kw a fast charger for a car….

I thought they would use EU Type2 CCS due 3 phase AC. What AC charging option they got?

Can you really call CCS universal, when it differs between US and Europe?

No it is not a fast charger as far as the bus is concerned; it is an Overnight Charger frugally recharging the bus fully without giving the Accountants a Heart-Attack when they open the electricity bill statement.

CCS is a universal standard since that is what the added 2 DC posts are – standardized. The ‘Level 2’ part WHICH EVERY CAR HAS TO HAVE just differs between Continental Europe and North America, due to differing electric distribution ideas over 100 years old. Electric cars won’t fix this discrepancy.

If Europeans truly want to ‘standardize’ something, they can get all their Toasters and Table Lamps to run on the same attachment plug, instead of the 8 – odd differing plugs they have now. To an American this seems a bit tongue-in-cheek since the power style of all the countries is exceedingly similar. And a few here tell me that the OTHER END of your EV attachment cords (since you have to supply your own for your EV) is likewise a ‘Mongolian Cluster Dance’.

“CCS is a universal standard” – no, its two different standards, CCS Combo 1 and CCS Combo 2.
Some places, like Australia, have a mix. The Western Australia Electric Highway built in 2015 has CCS1. The Queensland one built in 2017 has CCS2. BMW i3s sold here have been CCS1 up until this year where they are CCS2. New Hyundai and Jaguar vehicles arriving here this year will be CCS2.

The solution is to switch over all CCS1 cables and ports (this was done in New Zealand) but it needs to be agreed upon and coordinated between all vehicle manufacturers and DC fast charger owners.

Charles, I thought I just said that.

As far as changing over to a single World-Wide configuration, car manufacturers have said early on they don’t want to spend the extra money for an extra MENNEKES pin on the car.

This also explains why Chademo is never going to be bigger than it is now: Car manufacturers, who balk at a single extra pin, surely don’t want to deal with an entirely separate jack and all that entails – except the wildly popular Imiev-EV which sold like 20 units in the states the last year it was here, with 2 separate filler ports for slow and fast charging.

Actually many parts of Europe are slowly getting to use a de facto standard (CEE 7/7), but a century of power plug differences and half a billion people can’t be changed overnight.

For Australia, maybe they could build a charger design that just has CCS1 & CCS2 installed on it!

Ideally these Dual Cord ‘Multi-Standard’ charging units need to hadle charging at at least 50 kW from each cord simultaneously, and it would be also nice, if just 1 cord was in use, to then charge at 80-100 kW!