Production Chevrolet Bolt On Display At 2016 Texas State Fair – Video

OCT 19 2016 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 63

For the first time ever it seems, the production 2017 Chevrolet Bolt was on display in non-roped-off form to the public.

Chevy Bolt On Display In Texas

Chevy Bolt On Display In Texas

This may still be a pre-production Bolt (we’ve been unable to confirm if its production or pre-production), but regardless this Bolt at the 2016 Texas State Fair is the first to be totally open to the public.

Video description:

“With the rapid expansion in the uses of alternative fuels, electricity seems to be at the top of the charts. Nowadays, more and more car companies are embracing the electric element and one of those companies is America’s own, Chevrolet.

Now for 2017, they’ve now launched the Bolt EV, a solid electric vehicle that can almost go from Houston to Dallas on one charge! So what makes this new electric car more special than the others? Watch the review to find out!”

Admittedly, the “review” is more a walkaround and check out the interior type video, but it’s still worth watching.

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Yep.. ALMOST from Dallas to Houston. If somebody would just build a CCS charger somewhere in the middle.

Well, a CCS charger would be welcome for sure, but, if he knew a bit more, he would have said that this distance is very well achievable with the bolt.
Just like a 60 kWh propulsion system under the hood is not very telling.

You would think this guy would do some homework on the car beforehand. 60kWh battery and 150kW motor.

There are actually several CCS chargers between Houston and Dallas but there’s still one long stretch. The longest distance between CCS chargers is about 214 miles. The 240 statement is misleading but what do you expect when a non-EV guy talks about EVs.

This trip is technically possible, but I am not sure that I would make it during the summer months at highest speeds. If I were to go to Houston with current charging stations, I would go through College Station to charge for an hour or two while eating lunch. And then complete the trip into Houston.

We need a charger in Centerville! C’mon Buc-ees get on it!

The Bolt can do a trip between Dallas to Austin and then to San Antonio without breaking a sweat.

😀

“Bolt propulsion system […] operates at 0RPM […] its very, very, very impressive”

You joking mr. journalist?

It’s breakthrough of the millennia! Or would be if not for the pesky laws of physics, which simply state that no motion no torque/hp, and it’s simply Your ignorance that caused You to hyperbole “peak torque/hp at low RPMs” into 0 RPMs.

😉

You can have 100% torque at 0 RPM. Torque is a force. It doesn’t require motion. Statics 101.

more like less than one rpm but not with no motion at all right?

Read Kdawg’s reply again. Think about a torque wrench, you’re still at the proper torque when you stop moving.

Think about a bridge. There are torques and couples all over the place.

Hopefully the speed of it is 0 RPM since if its moving you won’t want to be on it as it is collapsing.

Ok so this neophyte reporter wasn’t that familiar with the car – (at one time I think he confused the motor with the battery that drives it), and came up with some new constructs, such as 60 kilowatts per hour – humm, don’t know what that means – but the review sounds high tech.

First reviewer to state seats felt pinchy although overall very comfortable.

I think everyone commenting here is actually right.

A physicist would call these Moment of Forces, or Bending Moments, or Moments, “Torques”.

A mechanical engineer in the states (not necessarily in europe, but I’ve never been there so I’m not so certain) would cause the Couple to be called a Moment of Force, or Bending Moment, but not necessarily a TORQUE since there is no angular movement.

So there is no right or wrong answer here, since everyone would agree that all torques around an object, steady state, are zero.

Of course, when trying to accelerate something, there is always the retarding torque of the object being accelerated.

” Steady State zero torque summation “.

At this point I’m sure someone is going to object that they just used a ‘torque wrench’, and it was adjusted to slip just at 35 foot-pounds or whatever.

The resultant torque, in the sense that I mean it, is zero because the nut stopped turning. Therefore, the nut is ‘fighting back’ minus 35 foot-pounds, and the 35 – 35 = 0.

I look to holidays as a time when you are festooned in the appropriate costume for the occasion.

There was a graphite colored one a couple of weeks ago at the Anaheim (Orange County International Car Show). I sat in one,took pictures under the hood, etc. It was unattended, and seemed to be hardly noticed by anyone, along with the Volt and Ioniq (which I sat in and took pics also). There were way more people looking at the E-Tron, i3, Hellcats,Camaros,etc. And the biggest draw was a huge indoor Jeep obstacle Disney type obstacle course.

Anecdotally, this is what I observe, too. People talk about Tesla, but hardly anyone knows Chevy makes EV, not even kickass one like SparkEV, let alone Bolt. This is another reason why I think even 30K/yr sales for Bolt is optimistic.

Bolt will replace Leaf, i3, FFE, etc, but not much in terms of bringing new people to EV. I’m not sure if many SparkEV, iMiev, SmartED will switch to Bolt as it’s far too expensive. Many in the Prius crowd just don’t care for Chevy (their loss!) and will wait for Tesla.

That’s because outside of California the Spark EV basically does not exist.

There are many SparkEV in Oregon, but I’m only talking about people I meet in CA, a place where about half the EV are sold. There’s also rampant misinformation, such as taking 12 hours to charge the car after every use, even to just go down to the market.

There are quite a few in MD….and at least 1 in Florida! I know because I sold mine to a guy living in the Tampa area.

Aside from mine, I have seen one other on the roads here in Maryland. I was very surprised when I saw it and started waving at the guy driving it as if I knew him. He most likely thought I was crazy.

You are right. We put on a dozen electric car shows this year in Socal. Ventura, Oxnard, Goleta, Solvang, Thousand Oaks, Oak Park, Ojai, etc. Same thing happens every show. The P90DL Model X is the new number one draw, the i3 is second, the Volt and LEAF are decent. No one seems interested in the nice black B class, or the Spark. I even promote the Spark as the deal of the century in price and efficiency combination. I tell them it’s an overachiever that goes on unrecognized.

At the Washington DC auto show there have been fair amounts of people looking at the Gen I and then the Gen II Volt’s display. Same at the Ford Fusion Energi, tho to a lesser extent. Not so much at the Leaf and I never found the Tesla display.
I actually ended up giving a tutorial to 7 or 8 people at the Volt display a couple years ago. They were fascinated by regen and the fact that I could plug in at any regular receptacle.

Well, Mercedes lacks DCFC, so it’s right to ignore it. 😉

But for SparkEV, I’m sure people know it as EV that charge overnight like every other EV, but not many knows that it’s capable of over 1000 km in 16 hours in the real world using DCFC. Chevy just doesn’t advertise these positive aspects of the car, and people just see plain econobox, not what the car is capable of.

By the way, are we going to see an article on Francis’ achievement on Insideevs? I think 82 miles range EV doing over 650 miles in a day with 8 hours to spare is quite remarkable, and shows just what even today’s EV (at least SparkEV) is capable of.

SparkEV, I enjoy your posts, and you’re quite knowledgeable, but do I ever wish that you eventually get a Bolt, as I love to hear you promoting that over the Spark EV.

On a technical level the Spark EV is very impressive in someways, but sorry, it’s way too small looking to even be considered, by me, and most people.

It’s hard to get excited about Prius or Leaf, and that’s what Bolt is like. Compared to other hatch of $30K, it’s on lower end of the scale.

SparkEV is like Tesla P100DL. It dominates against all cars in its price range. That’s why it’s so exciting and motivating to find out all about it.

If there’s Bolt 2.0 with RWD or AWD, 0-60 MPH under 5 seconds, tow 3500 lb, come with hardware for self driving, and cost under $30K post subsidy, it’d be exciting, though $30K is very expensive. But not Bolt 1.0.

A flat rear bench seat is definitely welcome. And a real 5th seat as well. Gonna be ordering mine from CA, then have it shipped to MD!

Sadly no fifth seat headrest.

Chevy doesn’t have middle rear seat headrests on any of their cars.

Why even bother bringing one to Texas? Do they buy EVs in TX?

TexasFFE does. I wonder if he’ll get Bolt or wait for Ford.

I love the Bolt but you still can’t drive it to Colorado without some long charging stops. I drove my SUV nonstop from Breckenridge, Colorado to Fort Worth, Texas last month in about eighteen hours including gas and meal stops. It took me almost four days the last time I drove my EV to Colorado.

I use my FFE to commute and my SUV for long hauls or heavy loads. This arrangement works well for my but I would like to be able to drive my EV to Colorado without long charging stops. Until we get a few more CCS charging stations between Texas and Colorado I’m probably going to hold off upgrading my EV unless I get a really, really good deal.

They’re coming slowly, have fast charge stations in Colorado Springs now, so your last jump should be faster.

Tesla, had his laboratory there in Colorado Springs, so maybe you might be able to get some free over the air electricity, and charge up while you drive through, as that is what he was working on. 😉

“I drove my SUV nonstop from Breckenridge, Colorado to Fort Worth, Texas last month in about eighteen hours including gas and meal stops”
So are you saying you did not and can not drive this distance nonstop in a gas SUV?
You had to stop for gas and meals!!

By stop I meant an overnight stop to sleep. I usually stop somewhere to sleep. Eighteen hours is long drive without stopping to sleep.

Actually, people in the larger cities (Dallas, Houston, Austin) are quite progressive. I live in Dallas and frequently see LEAFs and Teslas.

True. Especially Austin. I think people rely too much on stereotypical typing.
So for TX, they are bunch of backward hicks, which simply demonstrates that person’s own ignorance.

There might be a famous resident of TX who helps perpetuate that idea. craWford resident.

That Crawford ranch has some very green features such as a geothermal heat pump.

I’ve seen perhaps ten Teslas around San Antonio. A few Volts. One i3. I was behind an i8 this morning (license plate ICE PWRD, lol). I’ve only ever seen one Leaf, several years ago. Never seen a compliance car.

Didn’t the resident you are referring to sign the original law providing a tax credit for electric vehicles. Also, he signed the law phasing out incandescent bulbs.

Five percent of all electric vehicles are and have been sold in Texas. So out of the 500,000+ EVs sold in the United States at least 25,000 were sold in Texas. 128 EVs showed up at Drive Electric Week event in Grapevine, TX which made it one of the biggest EV events in the country.

I see 8 – 10 Tesla’s in my area (North Houston/Woodlands) every day, about 10% are Model X too. It really isn’t even close anymore as far as mix.

I see less Volts/Leafs now than I did a few years ago. Have only seen three 2017 Volts (excluding my test drive) ever. I do see a few LEAFs and old Volts each week. Surprisingly I do see two iMievs regularly.

Yes, we do. We buy lots of them. 🙂 Though certainly not at the levels of California. I have two personally. When I was there on a busy saturday there were also many people checking out the car, and two Chevy employees on hand to answer questions.

There are loads of them in the Addison area of north Dallas. i3’s, Volts, Teslas, Leafs, I have a Spark EV and I have even seen a Rav4 EV and a BMW i8 in the past few months.

Obviously he doesn’t know much about electric cars, but he does know some of the stats. I was expecting a view of the trunk, which none of the previews ever show.

I checked it out at the state fair this weekend also. The vehicle was off and the hatch was locked so sadly no one could get in to see the cargo space.

I did get a photo of the back seat and under the hood, however.

Really wish he popped the trunk.

I, too, sat in the Bolt at the State Fair. It was completely void of all battery power, so no way to open the hatch. I asked the rep about driving modes, regen levels and such.. got the deer in the headlights response. Dude has never driven Anything electric.

His description of the drivetrain made my ears bleed. Maybe this is why EV sales haven’t taken off like we all imagined (yet). This reviewer would probably claim to be a “car guy” and has no idea what he is taking about. Hard to justify the premium. As far as the Bolt, I am still so/so on the styling. Much better than the LEAF, but not hitting my taste for some reason. Maybe it is proportions. I think the Volt looks better. The interior looks great! I like the layout of the controls and storage. Looks roomy in the passenger compartment. He either didn’t open the trunk or I missed it, but looks like it might be tight with the seats up. I would need to do a “stroller check” once I can get in front of one. My biggest complaint is the shifter. Why does everyone feel the need to reinvent this. I had manuals my whole life until the LEAF and the shifter was one of my biggest complaint. It is really easy to miss reverse with that motion. Also, the shifter returning to a neutral position does not give you the ability to check the drive mode… Read more »

Yeah, he was conflating the battery capacity with the motor rating. Quite glaring in his lack of knowledge – but he did admit he knew nothing until seeing it, so I am glad he made the video.

Best State Fair in the known Cosmos, imho.
Many share that view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSKa29E4T7o

I think I’ll try to go to the Fair this weekend and take a look at the Bolt. There’s a question I have asked several times and was never able to get a answer; does the Bolt have towing capabilities? I know the Bolt probably is not going to have a tow rating in the United States but the Ampere-e in Europe probably will.

This would be my first time to get a close up look at the Bolt. I’m going to look underneath to see if the Bolt has mounting points for a hitch. If there are mounting points then I will know that the Bolt was design for towing whether or not GM wants to publish the tow rating.

I saw the Bolt at the State Fair. I looked for hitch mounting points under the rear end. It didn’t look very promising. Mounting a hitch would definitely not be a simple bolt on affair like it is with the FFE. I could see several ways you might mount a hitch but you would have to at least remove or replace the shroud under the bumper. I think I would wait for Torklift or some other hitch manufacturer to start selling a hitch before I would say affirmatively that you can mount a hitch. I did find one that surprised me about the Bolt, the flat floor in the back isn’t really a flat floor. There is a huge pocket behind the rear seats, the pocket is big enough to put a spare tire in. There’s a board that fits over the pocket that forms a flat floor with the seats. The pictures we see in the media give a lot of misconceptions. One thing that was mis-stated in the video above is that you have to remove the rear headrests to fold down the rear seats, you don’t have to remove the rear headrests. Another thing is that there… Read more »

Reviewer:
“. . . out of only a 60 kWh electric system. . .”

LOL!

I will buy a Bolt if ( and only if ) it can mount a 1 1/4″ receiver hitch. That is an absolute deal breaker for me. We must be able to tow a Sportsrig trailer to transport our tandem trike.
We are a one car household.

Both the Gen 1 and 2 Volt have undermount hitches available aftermarket. Given the Bolt rides higher than both of those, I have zero doubt that one will be available for the Bolt as well.

I bet Torklift will come out with one (a real, 2″/200# hitch) once they get their hands on a Bolt.

***200 # tongue weight

Without Chevy blessing, that could cause problems with warranty _if_ Bolt isn’t rated to tow. Is there any official word on Bolt’s towing capacity? That will determine if I ever get a Bolt, new or used.

We’ve played this game extensively on the FFE forums. As long you use the hitch for bike racks and the like and not towing (no visible trailer wiring harness) there is no warranty issue. If you’re warranty has expired or if you just take responsibility for any damage caused by towing then the question becomes how much can you safely tow without damaging your vehicle?

Without a tow rating it gets a little tricky to calculate the design tow capacity. With the FFE we are lucky because the European Ford Focus is rated for towing. The actual towing capacity calculations with vehicle loading get pretty complicated so it’s easy to understand EV manufacturers not wanting to list a towing rating even though the cars are designed to tow.

Yes, yes, yes, “60 kilowatt PER hour”. A true specialist at work.

“60 kilowatts per hour, babycakes!”

Lol where do you find this stuff?

“Got 50 watts per channel – Babycakes!”

hehe..find some more great commercials Kdawg!

I like geeking out on detail videos like this.

This strikes me as being more in the European tradition of upscale smaller cars, vs. the US tradition of US car makers intentionally giving US smaller cars cheap looking interiors.