Polestar 2 Electric Car: First Image / Specs Released

JAN 3 2019 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 42

A true Tesla Model 3 competitor?

Perhaps. However, only a few details are known at this point in time. Therefore, we’ll leave judgment for a later date.

Here we present the first-ever image of the Polestar 2, the brand’s first pure electric car. Specs impress too with a claimed range of 300 miles and 400 HP.

Polestar 2 follows the very expensive, limited-run Polestar 1 plug-in hybrid.

In addition to the one lone image, Polestar released this information on the car:

The Polestar 2 will be fully revealed in the coming weeks, but here are some initial specs and information:

  • First full BEV from Polestar and the Volvo Car Group
  • ~300 miles of range (all final specs to be announced shortly)
  • ~400 HP (all final specs to be announced shortly)
  • Four-door “fastback” body type
  • World debut of the new Google Android HMI, which in turn is also the debut of the in-car version of Google Assistant
  • Will be sold in the Tesla Model 3 price range
  • Available on subscription, which will be a slightly more premium version of our sister brand’s Care by Volvo package, although we will honor/take cash sales

Polestar 2, the second production vehicle from Volvo’s electric performance brand, will go into production shortly after Polestar 1, which will enter production later this year.

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That’s a nice set of specs. Will it support 150kW+ charging? That’s a big question for anybody competing with Tesla.

Since Tesla doesn’t even support 150 kW charging, I‘d say 100 kW should be what’s needed to compete right now.

Everything above that is a bonus. But depending on when this is set to come out, it might need 150 or more to compete.

It will use the CCS standart in Europe and thus capable of 150kWh charging.

No, the standard does not tell you which charging power the car’s batteries will be able to handle.
Also, kWh and kW are not the same.

The VW eUp! also uses the CCS standard, but it won’t change with 150 kW.

Porsche Taycan also uses CCS and it can go 350kW. So really, 400V or 800V will make a huge difference to charge speed.

With the new competition coming to compete with the ‘current’ Model 3, there may need to be a refresh, at least to the front and rear of the 3, along with any other updates Tesla adds along the way.

But Tesla is way ahead with its charging network and over the air updates. But an ‘assistant’ wold be nice on Tesla models.

TM3 is fine for now.

Model Y is next in focus.

Looking forward to it’s reveal.

Tesla is ahead w/it’s Superchargers and it’s Batteries.

Seriously, a refresh? Tesla only started selling the Model 3 last year! No need for a refresh, any more than the Model S needed refreshed in 2013.

You seem to have mistaken Tesla for a legacy auto maker; the ones which make styling changes every model year for no practical purpose at all; pointless styling changes used only as a marketing ploy.

Thank goodness Tesla doesn’t play that game! It’s one reason I’m a fan of the company.

Agreed ‼️

Tesla does things right. Bur Volvo doesn’t really need to make their own Charing network. They can add chargers with their service centres. In Europe we already have commercial parties installing charging network. Fastned in Holland, Ionity, and many others.

The US is different for sure when it comes to charging networks.
What the EV enthusiast has seen when it comes to “charging networks” is poor reliability, The enthusiast (myself included) will have a hard time believing that this has changed. I am sure the networks in Europe are much better. But right now, on this side of the pond, Tesla is unparalleled in locations, speed, and most importantly, reliability.

Look my wife wants a basic car. She will not go to a gas station again. Her 2013 Leaf frustrates her with range. So we go looking – Leaf vs 3 (not in CA so only other option really is a Bolt which she thinks is too small visually). The Leaf’s 150 miles is not enough but the 220 would be. Pricing looks like $32k (net) vs $40k (net). Just on supercharging network alone, the $8k is almost worth it. Add in resale issues – some of which are network related. Mix in history of battery longevity, record of safety and it seems hard to justify the slower, less attractive Leaf. Even with the full tax credit.

Everyone is different, but for me, SC access for $8k more is definitely not worth it. CCS charging infrastructure is continually growing and getting better, and I’m unlikely to really ever use it until someone makes an affordable BEV minivan that can haul my family and our camping gear and canoes/kayaks, etc. and we can get 300miles or so. For me, road trips are family affairs, so a small sedan isn’t going to cut it. Neither is the $100k Model X, that you can’t put stuff on the roof and has limited cargo room.

In the meantime, we are close to 90% all-electric miles with our PHEV minivan. Even with several summer camping trips last year.

Re-sell issues with the Leaf are related to the battery longevity. That said, don’t overlook how reliable the Leaf is.

I live in the green weenie capital of the U.S. – Pacific Northwest. Every shopping center around here has commercial high-speed charging from one of a few competing providers. I see Teslas, Bolts, etc. using these all the time. Have no idea where the nearest Tesla SC is…

Charging will very shortly just be a commodity and last I checked Tesla doesn’t produce energy so I don’t think they have a defensible advantage here.

Many problems with that approach:
1) Service centers are rarely located along unpopulated major routes where is precisely where you most need a fast charger on a trip and
2) No one wants to be hassled by salespeople nor deal with jammed service center lots just to refuel.
3) Service centers typically don’t have extra space they’re willing to dedicated to a ROWS of charging stations and having one or two simply isn’t enough.

Charging infrastructure will be a commodity very soon. Having your own proprietary version does not put you ahead – it puts you in the poor house.

OTA is used by several companies and has been for years. The difference is that Tesla uses it to ‘fix’ fundamental aspects of their cars that should have been right from the factor (e.g., braking performance, acceleration profile, etc.)

Tesla isn’t ahead with batteries, that’s Panasonic and the battery industry will change with the arrival of solid-state batteries. The question is whether people will be able to source enough raw materials to match supply with demand. If they can, then Tesla will have no advantage other than brand equity/marketing (which I would argue is their one true advantage.)

From article Polestar said:
“… [Polestar 2] Available on subscription, which will be a slightly more premium version of our sister brand’s Care by Volvo package…”
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That’s certainly newsworthy and interesting.

“Care by Volvo – A new alternative to owning or leasing a Volvo car”:
https://www.volvocars.com/intl/cars/care-by-volvo

It certainly is newsworthy.

Pay to not-own something that listens in to your conversation and possibly (from other article) even watches your eyeballs as you go, sending the data to Google. There’s two ‘f’s in “-off”.

I agree totally. I’ll do what I can to avoid any car containing Google or Facebook technology. The product of these companies is our personal data which they will do almost anything to harvest and sell.

That’s a scary thought.

Since the XC40 is one of the EVs I am interested in, I’m a bit disappointed with the timeline. I was hoping for polestar 2 in 2019 and the XC40 EV to start production in late 2019 or early 2020. Since Volvo execs have stated that the XC40 will be after polestar 2 then I’m sure its pushed back further than I want. But the teaser image looks pretty good.

I fear the same thing. The XC40 was a hit for them and they couldn’t keep really up with demand in the first months here in Europe. I hope hey will launch the electric XC40 as soon as possible.

When have they stated that? Source?

Nice tease. I just hope they can pull it off.

Nothing personal but I think the tease is horrible. It shows absolutely nothing to get me excited.

Will you be able to go to Sweden to take delivery like you could with some of their ICE cars?

Would not make sense since the 2 will be built in 🇨🇳

Tesla model 3 price range… meaning anywhere between $46K and $65K?

“range” can mean even a little more but close to. Could be $70k for the most powerful version that gives you the stated 400 hp and a WLTP range of 300 miles or an EPA range of ~265-270 miles.

My local dealer said they won’t see one for a year or more in Arizona. How can a Tesla killer be so rare and also run on trips with no Super or Regular Charger Network. Tesla will rule for at least 5 more years.

In Europe charging is not a problem with CCS and fast charging. Tesla is even beaten in that regard. So Volvo doesn’t need to make their own charging network. Ionity/Fastned and other will do that.

Define “beaten”. Is there a car available in numbers today that charges faster (in mph)? Don’t really care if CCS has more power available at the head.
Are the locations more convenient? More redundant (more heads)?

Just curious on what your standard is. I am absolutely not saying the Tesla can’t be bested – I am just wanting specifics as it may be predictive of what we get in 2-3 years.

In my area, the chargers could have better amenities. They are near highways (which is great) but then sometimes in less than classy environments.

Charging much faster isn’t particularly relevant when 99% of your daily usage is under 150 miles and you just plug-in at home overnight. A proprietary charging network when commercial public networks are popping up isn’t a great advantage (and certainly won’t last 5 years.)

I’m not sure how 50kW chargers “beat” 120 kW.

There are a lot of ccs chargers, but for now almost NO ccs chargers supportin g 10pkW or more.
And expensive, too.

That’s a sexy back end.

Having Android built-in that deeply to the car strikes me as a potential negative.

How quickly will the car be patched when there’s a zero day flaw? What personal data, if any, is going to be sent to the world’s largest advertising company (Google)? How difficult will it be to opt-out and what does that disable?

Also, since Google seems to discontinue services at random. Will this even be working in 3-5 years from now?

About that Google stuff:
Told Volvo that this is a clear nogo for me.
Of course they did not listen. 🙂

(I have 2 Volvos to replace with BEVs in the next few years.)

Just don’t register the car when you buy it.

Then the car doesn’t function in a way that worries you.

Wonder where it will be built. Europe, US or China?