Polaris eBikes Launches Diesel TiO DL818 LE (w/video)

NOV 17 2014 BY TDILLARD 16

Polaris eBikes has put together a snappy new ebike for limited consumption – the Diesel TiO DL818.  Besides the slick paint job, the bike has a 750W Evantage DuoDrive™, can go 25 mph, has a 3-4 hour charge time and weighs around 60lbs.

Here are some of the component specs:

Deisel TiO drivetrain detail

Deisel TiO drivetrain detail

FRAME6061 T-6 Alloy
COLORTitanium Oxide Limited Edition
FORKMagura MT6 with lockout and rebound dampening
STEMSpank OOZY 40mm x 31.8
HANDLEBARSpank OOZY 763 mm x 31.8, 20mm rise
HEADSETNeco 1 1/8
CRANKSuntour
BRAKESMagura MT2E Hydraulic Disk Brakes
ROTORSMagura 180mm
SHIFTERSram x4 trigger 8 speed
REAR DERAILLEURSRAM X7
WHEELSETALEX RIMS FR30 650 B
TIRESKENDA 650 B Trail Tire
SEATPOSTZOOM 30.9 X 350MM
SADDLESpank Subrosa Saddle
GRIPSSpank Lock On Grips
PEDALSSpank OOZY
WEIGHT60 Lbs

The bike is produced under license by Evantage USA, the manufacturers of the drivetrain.  From Evantage’s site:

Evantage USA, a licensing partner with Polaris® Industries, combines cutting edge proprietary technology with innovative designs for the light electric vehicle market. The Polaris® electric bicycle provides our customers with a streamlined vehicle that can be used for recreation, commuting and exercise. At Polaris® eBikes, we believe in creating products that look towards the future.

For over 60 years, Polaris® Industries has been at the constant forefront of recreational vehicle production – From ATVs and Snowmobiles, to Motorcycles and Military vehicles. Now, combining their industry standard of excellence with the proprietary Evantage™ Motor System, we bring you the new leader in electric bicycles.

Evantage Duo Drive system

Evantage DuoDrive system

The Evantage drive system is really the heart of the bike.  It’s a system that gives you active gearing, motor regulation that is controlled by the cadence and trail conditions, a few very interesting modes of regen that are particularly bicycle-specific, and an interesting feature called “Biosync” which monitors the rider’s power output.  Read more about the Evantage drive here: Evantage DuoDrive Tech.

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16 Comments on "Polaris eBikes Launches Diesel TiO DL818 LE (w/video)"

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Why on earth did they call this “Diesel”? What a horrible name for an e-assist bicycle.

Speaking of the bigger picture, I’m excited to see Polaris starting to get into electrification. They are a big provider of power sports “toys”. I heard they are also licensing technology from Brammo; maybe they will soon have a line of electric ATVs and snowmobiles. This will make more of an impact than electric mountain bikes (which are mostly going to replace human-powered bicycles).

LOL OMG I agree

Deceptive advertising…. I was looking forward to coal rolling the kids on the bike trail with my Diesel TiO.

60 pounds?!

The motor and battery add probably 20-30 lbs, I’d guess.

The added weight of the electric components on an e-bike is far outweighed by the propulsion that they provide. 60 lbs might sound heavy, but you will hardly feel that weight while riding it. (Unless you run out of battery, that is.)

I looked into some of the 700c retrofit options, for regular bikes. I think they took weight from ~20lbs, closer to 40.

I think the kiosk bikes, you can rent in city bike share programs, are about 45 lbs.

BEV purist would protest b/c it is a “hybrid” bike…

LOL!

And hard core environmentalists would protest b/c it uses far more energy than a simply bicycle.

I’ve read, from none other than one of the gurus of e-bikes at Grin Technologies, that in fact if you are “fueling” your body with conventional food, the carbon impact would be less than if you ran the e-bike off of a standard mix of electricity.

I guess the 25mph is not allowed in the US (normally they must be limited to 20 mph), but sure looks like a nice setup.

Yes, this from the makers of an e-bike. how convenient. Do they include all of the other inputs to actually making the e-bike (motor, battery, controller) that don’t exist with a regular bicycle?

Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of an e-bike. But I also own and drive a car, something which a hard-core environmentalist would poo-poo.

See the study here:
http://www.ebikes.ca/documents/Ebike_Energy.pdf

It does not account for the impact of producing the controller, motor, or charger as these last relatively long (which is sort of a convenient assumption, I agree), but on battery production costs, charging efficiency, and electricity costs – as compared to a typically fossil fuel intensive North American diet – it is quite thorough. I guess “it depends” applies here, but I think the point is that e-bikes compare quite closely to a regular bike and can be used in more situations by more people, so can be a really important way for people to reduce pollution that results from personal transport.

Interesting, I will give that a read. But I was really referring to those who would already be on a local/organic/low-impact diet for environmental reasons. It sounds like this case studies the typical/average scenario. I would find it hard to believe that an ebike can match a pedal bike in the best case.

But you have no argument from me. I think ebikes are great, and would certainly own one if they were more affordable. Fortunately for me, my 2 mile commute is easily doable with a pedal bike (at least for 6 months of the year).

I have a 12 mile (one way) commute, that I have been doing regularly (about 40% of the time) for many years now on a regular bicycle. It is tiring (and sweaty and logistically challenging …). I’ve been riding an e-bike for a bit of that more recently, and boy does it make a difference!

With a little more infrastructure and education, a lot more people could ride e-bikes … just not sure it will happen in my lifetime (and I’m not all that old).

Diesel??? Seriously??? Sounds like it was an ironic nickname for the project and someone forgot to change it before the sales guys went public. Worst e-bike name ever …

agreed, but in their defense they Did fire the person that originally named it ‘nuclear meltdown’.

I run an electric bike shop, we tried out Polaris ebikes several times, and they always come up short. Heavy, terribly immodular, low-tech and lacking any bicycle refinement. It’s a average electric system slapped on duplicate frames.