Check Out Part 1 Of Bjorn’s #Rapidgate 2018 Nissan LEAF Livestream


Bjorn is calling this three-part live series: Nissan LEAF #Rapidgate test.

For the Nissan LEAF enthusiasts out there, this live stream series is packed with information. However, be advised that Bjorn has included hours of unedited footage.

Also Watch: New Nissan LEAF Evaluated At 0% Charge With LEAF Spy Pro

We’ve also attached the live stream link below. It was underway at the time of writing, but that may change. We will keep you posted on the recorded versions of Part 2 and 3 of the series as they come in. Thus far, Bjorn is nearly five hours in and beginning Part 2.

Bjorn’s journey will cover 1,000 kilometers (621 miles) and temps are currently -3 Celsius (26.6 Fahrenheit) or thereabouts.

For those unfamiliar with the “Rapidgate” situation, it relates to issues being reported about the all-new 2018 Nissan LEAF’s inability to fast charge after the first few sessions. It’s still a fairly new discovery, so press related to it is just beginning to ramp up.

The other reported issue with the LEAF has always been its lack of a Thermal Management System (TMS) for the battery pack. Some believe that this may lead to accelerated battery degradation.

Lastly, to add insult to injury, new reports claim that the 30 kWh battery pack degrades more quickly than the 24 kWh pack. Will this hold true for the new 40 kWh pack?

Let’s keep our eyes on Bjorn’s trip and see what he finds out.

Check out the live stream below:

Hat tip to Bro1999!

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14 Comments on "Check Out Part 1 Of Bjorn’s #Rapidgate 2018 Nissan LEAF Livestream"

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Can we just retire the gate thing? Also, quit saying hacked for stuff having nothing to do with computers.

may leads (lead)
The battery pack is inferior to other offerings.
Their entire concept was incorrect from the get go, we don’t need LTMS, because we say so.

unlike musks “you don’t need an instrument cluster because cars will be driving themselves in 10 years”

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

I don’t see that affecting range, DCFC taper and battery life dumbazz.

I wouldn’t worry about battery life on a Tesla. You’re going to turn autopilot on and swerve into barriers before the degradation hits 80%.

I know you keep bitching about stuff. That’s why you’re so blind to the ridiculously obvious stuff. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be so easy to trigger you.

No it was covering some dirt and getting out of the bad news of tesla like from Seeking Alpha:
How About Those Model 3 Deposits?

Another problem for Tesla may be the petering demand for Model 3.

Once Tesla pushed out the $35,000 Model 3, there has been considerable customer resentment and widespread discussions about customer cancellations. Preliminary indications based on fan site commentary suggest that cancellations may have been very significant.

Furthermore, Tesla inside salespeople have been calling customers aggressively to get deposits for various products including Powerwall and Solar Roof. Model 3 customers have also been getting multiple reminders to “configure”. Configuration means that Tesla can capture an additional $2,500 of deposits.

We have heard directly from Tesla salespeople and are aware of others who have been solicited by Tesla to place a deposit. Based on the evidence we have seen so far, we conclude that Tesla is attempting to do two things:

Get cash on its balance sheet before the end of the quarter.
Ensure that the “customer deposit” line item stays strong in the face of widespread Model 3 cancellations.

Your brain must be on AP too… Did it crash already?

Bjorn is Simply Amazing!
He is Loving Leaf wipers!
Nissan innovation that excites!

So details from part 1 include getting DCFC neutered to 22 kW by the 3rd fast charge. Despite sub-freezing temperatures, the Leaf’s battery approached 50C when finishing the first fast charge session!

Now imagine instead of being -3C/27F, it was 39C/100F! Odds are your Leaf’s battery would already be overheating before you even plugged in for the 1st fast charge!

^ THIS^ Many Nissan apologists are saying, I don’t even need my car for any long distance travel or I’ll never travel more than ‘X’ number of miles. My response, wait until it gets hot and you think you’re first fast charge speed is ~20kw when you banked on it being at least 40kw. Nissan fudged it again.

No way I would watch undedited video, but in the U.S., the southern parts of the country will soon get hot enough where someone can test the charging and running at 80F. I will be interested to see what happens.

There is a lot of useful information in the video, which was carefully collected by Bjorn and included some tests suggested by the livestream viewers. For example, the charging rate depends on the temperature of the battery when you plug the vehicle in. So, if you unplug and plug the car back in after the battery has heated up from the first charge, the next session will probably be slower. This is the case even if you’ve only done a few minutes of charging during the first session. Also, if the battery cools off between charges, the next charge will be faster. Finally, any heater or accessory use during charging is taken from the reduced rate! So, even if you’re at a 50kW charger and you’re reduced to 22kW because of your battery temperature, if you put the heater on full blast and it uses 1.5kW, that comes out of the 22kW and the battery will only get 20.5kW. One viewer (not me) compiled a short table of charging rates observed during the trip, along with the battery temperature measured by LeafSpy: Temp (Celcius) | Max charging rate ____________________________________ 32º | 42.6 kW 37.1º | 30.9 kW 41.0º | 25.9… Read more »

It’s interesting to note that it’s a very hot battery temperature considering the much cooler temperature should have kept the battery heat away.
It seems that there is a treshold point where the battery doesn’t get any heat out.
For my experience with a 2012 MY Leaf, when the outside temperature get below -10-15c, it just can’t heat up to an optimal point.