Nissan Has Software Fix For LEAF Rapidgate Issues

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JAN 23 2019 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 115

Nissan will offer the fix for all 2018 Nissan LEAFs, though many vehicles already have the updated software.

For those unfamiliar with Rapidgate (#rapidgate), it impacts the 2018 Nissan LEAF with its 40 kWh battery. Essentially, it substantially slows down DC fast-charging after a user charges the car multiple times over a short period of time. For instance, if you fast-charged just once in a day, there would likely be no issue. However, if you went on a long road trip and charged a second or third time while the car was hot, charging time would increase.

Rapidgate, on top of the fact that Nissan doesn’t offer active thermal management for its LEAF batteries, is a major point of contention for EV fans. While the automaker is still resisting the addition of a temperature management system, it told electrive it’s using a software update to fix the issue. In fact, all cars built after May 9, 2018 already have the update. This makes sense since we’ve received and published speculation that the problem no longer exists.

For those with a 2018 LEAF manufactured between December 8, 2017 and May 9, 2018, Nissan will provide the software fix. The automaker said that the reduction in charging speed was previously built in as a safety measure to slow battery degradation. Being that the cars don’t have active thermal management, this makes sense. However, the new software update seems to remove the safety measure. Does this mean that the LEAF battery will now degrade even faster?

Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.

Source: electrive

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The Lack Luster Leaf Learns some Lessons?

The fix is in with “Innovation That Excites”!

It’s about time that Nissan “Intelligent Mobility” started to actually mobilize!

Yes, lack luster. When the temperature in the pack is 49.4C when the ambient is -6.5C with the “fix” at only 37kW average power, you don’t solve the problem with software. Sure, software can increase the charge power even more, but Physics is that it will increase the temperature even further.

https://youtu.be/T00TveCh-_w?t=420

Or maybe you’re being sarcastic and it flew over my head.

Wouldn’t it be nice to get that heat into the cabin 🙂

Yup. Tesla is doing it right.

Tesla is doing what right? Taking months for simple repairs or taking over a year to replace batteries on degraded cars? They are still manufacturing the defects they had in 2011. Tesla needs to make more BETTER cars. Leave the free propaganda up to the so called EV experts that share their Tesla referral codes so they can get a free Tesla.

Are you even reading the thread? Tesla is doing it right by circulating the coolant through the battery and merging with cabin heat exchanger to use the heat from the batteries for cabin warmth.

Dud… is a serial anti-Tesla troll and nothing else.

Umm No. Look, I love my Tesla, best car made to date! But where did you get the impression that any of the waste heat goes to the cabin? There is no “Cabin Heat Exchanger.” There is a high power PTC heater (Electric), and an AC evaporator, but no coolant heats the cabin in the S’s I’ve disassembled nor in the Model 3’s that I’ve watched others take apart.
Tesla rocks, and it doesn’t need disinformation to make it’s case. Let’s keep it factual.

Here.
https://insideevs.com/tesla-patent-outlines-sensible-approach-cabin-heating/

And 3 can combine into single cooling loop, also found in IEV article.

“There is no ‘Cabin Heat Exchanger’.”

If you really had watched a disassembly of a Model 3, then you’d know there is only one heat exchanger for the entire car; it provides heat to both the cabin and the battery pack.

Or at least, that’s what Sandy Munro said on the “Autoline After Hours” interview. I presume that he — unlike you — does know what he’s talking about, since he and his team did a complete teardown of a Model 3.

Right. They should close up the tent flaps and leave making autos to legacy companies and we all will be better off, driving ICE into the next century.

That’s hilarious. If it hadn’t been for Tesla your precious legacy companies would still be making sweet sweet love to Big Oil and governments would still believe that EV’s were not a feasible option. Tesla has been the crowbar to open the oil / car clamshell and for that reason only they already deserve respect.

It’s called sarcasm. Something I think most people have some familiarity with.

I took it that way, but in a world where some would say that seriously, you should make it plain by adding a “/s” at the end.

Or selling use cars that they don’t have and busted at that

It certainly is easy to spot the serial Tesla bashers, innit? They post Tesla hater comments to articles which have absolutely nothing to do with Tesla. Just like this one.

Chances are when battery needs to be cooled, it’d be too hot to use the heater. One thing I wish Tesla did was to use a heat pump to heat the cabin, it’ll use far less power.

Agreed, heat pump could help a lot in mild winter climates (like between 5 and 45 F), however, it adds complexity to AC system. Given size of Tesla battery, not having one is okay, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see one added in the future.

Who says the Leaf doesn’t have a heat pump?

Leaf is showing almost 50C battery temperature when the ambient is -6.5C. Assuming 50% heat exchanger and similar heat capacity for cabin and battery (actually, batt is larger), Cabin could be warmed 10C above ambient with battery at 30C, and that’s only with 37kW. Imagine how warm it’d be with 50 kW charging.

I really would like the source for this 50°C at -6°C. This morning it was -10°C, i started from a warm garage so battery was +10°C, went for breakfast & quick charge, got to +17°C.

Nyland video. See youtube link provided above.

I think they intentionally ran the car at 90mph and then intentionally quick charged to 100% to get it to heat up. Everybody knows you don’t quick charge to 100%.

I generally quick charge to 100% at least once a week. It takes <7 minutes to go from 80% to 100% on a 50kw charger with my 2015 Spark EV. Total charge time with completely dead battery is <30 min.

He did that intentionally to gt the car to heat up. I could do the same thing with a Tesla or Chevy Bolt but I’m not going to run around and yell Tesla Gate or Bolt gate. All the cars have limitations of some sort. For 99.999% of all drivers this will never surface. I absolutely believe that you can do unlimited quick charges in a LEAF if you stop at 80% and keep the speeds below 75mph regardless of ambient temperatures. Great cars.

And yet despite the missives of doom and gloom from the whiners the LEAF is still the number 1 EV in lifetime world-wide sales.

.. for another few months.

Your alliteration is an allure to all. Can I request a random rhyme to round it out?

So they say, and time will tell. Platitudes to live by, but at least they finally admitted it was a problem. Isn’t that the first step in many step programs, admitting you have a problem.
Thank you orders of teaching nuns.

Ah, now I see it. You’re an ICE troll. Goodbye.

..and you are not the brightest bulb in the pack.

Its not a problem.

Well my 2018 Leaf was made on June 23, 2018 and it apparently has the older software…so….Unless all of us have been reading the wrong number from LeafSpy. I have 5SA3A under EV /HEV which people thought was the BMS version. People with the “C” version didn’t have the #rapidgate problem.

Take it to the dealer

Mine was made 5/15 and back in Sept I wasn’t too happy with my third charge of the day…

You already have the new software according to this article.

https://www.electrive.com/2019/01/22/nissan-updates-leaf-software-after-rapidgate/

Great have been working with Nissan corporate for this patch. Glad its coming. I have not run into any issues since I don’t DCRC very much, but nice to have the additional charging speeds when needed.

Well living in Canada does have its advantages. They are few and far between, but not overheating a poorly designed air cooled battery pack is one of them.

Its not a problem for our LEAFs and we live in a hot climate. All EVs have some sort of limitations and they are using this as a means to try to sell more Tesla on their referral codes. Somebody here is mentioning Bjorn and his Rapid Gate video. Bjorn is a paid salesman for Tesla. He got a free Tesla through his referral codes. The LEAFs are great cars, and if you take care of the cars and batteries they will last a long long long time 2x to 4x the battery warranty period. That applies to all EVs, if you take care of hem they will last a long long long time.

What do we need to do to get the patch?

Hi Eric, not sure I’m waiting to see how Nissan will roll this out. I’ve got some meetings set up with Nissan Canada soon and hope to get an outline. I suspect they may contact owners of affected Leafs and ask if they want the new software. Some really won’t care as they never push the charging to the limits. I hope to find out something soon, but you can always phone your local Leaf dealer and ask them…typically they are the last to know.

I still have the “A” version on my car and it definitely charges slow when the battery gets warm. I called my local Nissan dealership a few days and they did not yet have a software update for my car. Has anyone updated thier software yet or does anyone know when the update will be available?

Tell them the update is in the system and to stop playing with you are you going somewhere elese

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

Nope, I still will not recommend the Leaf to anyone used or new.

Getting one lease

Well I do. Not #1 rec for everyone (that depends on people’s different needs), but a darn good car that kicks the butt of any ICE. And for many people a used Leaf would be the most cost-effective car they could find, anywhere. Ask, e.g., the Ukrainians queueing up to buy used Leafs from the US, with all the battery degradation and cold-weather range decrease, etc. etc.

People here are too invested in intra-EV fights, they’ve lost all perspective. The Leaf has gone from 73 miles in 2011 to 151 miles, greater power, faster everything, solid battery warranty in 2018 – and now 226 miles in 2019. But that’s still “lackluster” and merits a constant stream of rotten tomatoes, on any Leaf story good or bad, from people who supposedly love EVs.

An interesting love, that.

The real anti-EV is Nissan offering free charging with such crap charging Leaf, turning people off EV. You can see from plugshare comments that their next car won’t be EV pointing to Leaf in the photo, lease or otherwise.

Leaf owners have gone through enough….they deserve all the free charging they get….or can use.

No, Leaf owners deserve money back that would’ve otherwise been used to pay for free charging so that they can stop wasting time at DCFC hoping to get their money’s worth.

That’s nonsense? We have always enjoyed free EV charging when we travel away from our home charger. I’ve never paid for a charge before. Why would I need a refund. We can charge for free at any Nissan Dealer and several local grocery stores.

What will the software fix be? Are they just increasing the allowable temperatures for the fastest charging rate? How high?

According to Nyland video, it seems to be 50C maximum with the fix. Problem is, even that ceiling limits the average charge power to 37 kW even when the ambient is -6.5C.

There is a lot of disinformation in your post. I routinely charge at 45 kW at some chargers, other chargers won’t charge as fast. Charging speed is governed by battery temperature, not ambient temperature, but the Leaf pack does cool off much faster and reduces #Rapidgate potential when ambient temperatures are colder.

My comment is regarding Nyland video. I suggest you watch it before spreading misinformation.

Leaf may start off with 45 kW on cool day on first charge, but that means nothing when the average power is only 37 kW due to battery temperature rising 57C above ambient. Again, go look at the data in the video before self deluding yourself.

It also depends on the temperature of the charger. If you fast charge immediately after someone else the charger itself can be overheating and will limit power.

So the “fix” is simply a software change to raise the temp limit where charging starts to get severely neutered. I’m sure there will be no degradation issues with people pegging 50C routinely while fast charging after this update. Lol

The question is why wasn’t it pegged to 50C before? I suspect the reason is because of high degradation. Now that the limit is raised, it shows Nissan doesn’t give a S about Leaf battery after purchase.

“Be careful what you (Leaf owners) wish for”

The Leaf has the best battery warranty and the lowest battery replacement cost in the industry. Even with the battery pack degraded to eight bars I will still have enough range for almost everywhere I go. And so what if the battery degrades, if it degrades before the warranty expires Nissan will buy me a new pack and if the pack degrades after the warranty expires I will have gotten my money’s worth out of the car and wouldn’t mind either paying for a new pack or just parking the car at the junk yard.

Excellent point. Yugo was probably the best car ever made since it broke down so much before warranty.

Actually the Tesla Model S, Chevy Volt, Chevy Bolt, and Ford Fusin Energi are all on the Lemon Law list of cars to avoid that have the most owner problems and complaints to the National Highway department. The LEAF on the contrary is one of the most reliable cars ever made. There is a big difference in the cars. I am sad to see you being such a jerk and LEAF troll. The fact is if you buy a LEAF and you follow the manufacturers recommendations for battery care the car might last a lifetime. If you quick charge multiple times to 100%, not recommended by any manufacturer, the battery could eventually get hot enough to slow down charging. This is really a non-issue that the trolls are trying to exploit since it could be the only perceived problem with the car.

Well if you actually read the warranty in your owner’s manual it says that if the SOH drops below 70% within the 8 year period they can elect to “repair” the pack enough to bring it above 70%. So they could bring it to 75% a month before the warranty expires and call it a deal. Not saying that they would but it’s not very re-assuring. That being said, I’m not worried about my own Leaf as I seldom take long trips likely wouldn’t do so in extremely hot weather. I watch my battery temp very carefully in warmer weather.

I have read about a bunch of the older Leafs getting battery pack work under warranty. Not once did a read about a pack getting “repaired”, the packs aways get “replaced”. I don’t think Nissan would allow any mechanics to “repair” a battery pack.

I could see the packs getting replaced with remanufactured packs but then remanufactured packs would actually have to be available. If your battery goes bad under warranty in the USA it’s a good bet that you will get a new battery pack. But, it should be a very long time before I even have to think about a battery pack replacement.

Always replaced any packs that degraded below the warranty amount. Great batteries, Great cars. Families will love these cars for generations. The most reliable cars we have ever owned. More so than our Prius, Camrys, Corollas, CRV, or SR5. etc. Great cars,, great family cars. Just make sure the range suites your requirements.

Yeah, that’s why I said time will tell, so short term gain, long term pain.

Yeah basically Nissan are risking longer term battery damage to your car just so they can say they fixed the FC problem. Let’s ask them again in 2 years when the battery degradation warranty claims emerge….

I own a 24kWh Leaf and love it but won’t buy another until they use active thermal cooling.

Most owners are getting far beyond 100K miles on their batteries before they get anywhere close to degrading to the warranty amount. If this was really a problem Nissan would have discontinued the car a long time ago. it only takes a handful of trolls to make a lot of noise.

Leaf is a lease-only car. No reason to buy one outright vs the competition.

The LEAF will last a lifetime if you take care of it. less maintenance than any gasoline cars. The best family car ever made.

Not sure what you mean by “last a lifetime,” seeing as the biggest issue with them is that the battery degrades quicker than other EVs, and the source of that issue appears to still be present with the most latest model.

Until you stop breathing oxygen and you are buried.

No it won’t. Most leafs will last about 10 years, maybe 12 before the battery needs replacing. The car works, but unless battery prices come down substantially most people will find the replacement battery not worth the cost.

This is a baseless statement. There are no EVs that are ten years old and even most of the EVs built back in 2010 are still on the road. Modern EVs are built very well and there is no reason why they can’t useful for at least several decades.

The used EV market is very strong right now, stronger even than the new EV market. Take the Ford Focus Electric for example, the FFE never sold all that well when it was new but you would be hard pressed to find a used one now. The used EV market is bound to grow even stronger has EVs become more popular and entry level buyers buy used instead of paying full price for new.

Eventually the aftermarket for EVs is going to have to kick in. The older EVs will benefit greatly from aftermarket battery pack replacements and upgrades. Anybody that thinks the aftermarket auto industry is never going support battery pack replacements and upgrades have thier heads in the sand and knows nothing about the auto industry.

Not a baseless statement at all. I own a 2013 Leaf at 86% soh that is babied in a very mild climate. It works but it’s only 6 years old and I’ve definitely noticed the drop in range in the last two years. If we assume continued dropping (no evidence that degradation slows with age) then after 10-12 years the battery will be significantly degraded (down some 30%) and it will be substantially less useful to me. Then I either replace the battery or buy a new car.

Actually the degradation should taper off to less than 1% per year. it is a pretty well established fact that LION batteries drop the first ten percent pretty quickly then taper off to a very gentle decline. The exception is if you are doing 100% to 0% cycles everyday. Then the degradation could actually increase. So whichever brand EV you own try to avoid that situation where you are cycling the battery from 100% to 0% daily.

I will likely replace my 40kwh 2018 in 2022 after taking down the depreciation through my business. Only because I really want the 60kwh pack and I already have an eager buyer waiting for it. But if for any reason I kept it for 10 years I would unhesitatingly buy a new pack. Much cheaper than a new car and greener as well.

“There are no EVs that are ten years old…”

Ummm… Tesla Roadster? EV1? Chevy S-10 EV? (And I suppose it’s cheating to mention Jay Leno’s 1909 Baker Electric…)

Nissan has been making LION Evs for 20 years now. The Altra.

Nissan Altra: A Look Back at The World’s First Li-Ion Powered EV. … The Nissan Altra was built off of the Nissan R’nessa multi amenity vehicle platform. The design was said to be versatile and spacious comfort on wheels. It was produced from 1997 to 2001 with the Altra EV as an export only.

If you drive your LEAF in the 20-80% charge range most of the time it will last a long long long time. I’m 65 yo so I know it will last a lifetime for me. Great cars, just make sure the limited range suites your needs.

MY 2012 LEAF is going on 8 years of age and it is till like new. Best car I have ever owned. Most other LEAF owners are experiencing the same joy of ownership. The LEAF has one of the highest satisfaction of ownership’s and the lowest cost of operation of any vehicles. Great cars, albeit limited range.

Well, you got have lease availability.
Around here, P.Q.it’s nowhere to be found!

Not an issue for our LEAFs, never has been. Great cars. Families all over the world will love these cars for generations

In a year or two, I’d like to see some real world degradation numbers from the 40 and 60 kwh battery. I think if Nissan is not putting Thermal Management, it may not be a huge issue for most in the developed world. However if you lived in Phoenix Arizona, this battery is going to get fried.

It’s definitely something to watch for. I take the minority view regarding TMS: if Nissan manages to pull off a passive fix to degradation, it’s a huge win economically and environmentally.

They had a temporary win in the 2015 Leaf, but the 2016-7 30kWh battery seemed not as good. The new battery results will be key. But like you say, in large parts of the world and for many use scenario (likely, the vast majority for the short-medium future), it won’t be a major issue regardless. And the battery warranty is decent.

Rapidgate is not about degradation but about charging. When I can tell whether there’s been more Leaf sales by how much waiting for tapered to hell free charging Leaf at DCFC, it’s a problem for everyone.

If you treat the Leaf as a city vehicle it is fine, 1 DCFC for a trip each direction for the weekend would be fine too. What the Leaf is not for is driving long distances with back to back DCFC. The new ~60 kWh car for example could easily drive up to 300+ miles for a weekend trip, each direction, only doing 1 DCFC each way. This will work for a lot of people.

With free charging, people do not charge once a week, but practically daily. Just look at the Leaf plugging in when they already have 70%+ only to 4 kWh in 30 minutes.

You should be able to quick charge infinitely to 80%. I think it is a problem if you try to 100% charge each time. Not recommended for any EV.

The real problem with the first leafs in 2011 and 2012 was people were driving the cars 100-0% charge every day. he newer batteries can handle that better and the lizard batteries can also handle sitting in the heat at 100% charge better. Not perfect but no EV is perfect at 100% charge just sitting in the heat. It will brick any brand or model.

A LEAF owner just reported 40,000 miles in her 40kWh LEAf with only 2 or 3 % battery degradation. She solely uses quick chargers and always charges to high percentages too. I do not think she has a home charger and she uses her LEAF as a Uber or Lyft car in Phoenix. Google the exact details, I’m sketchy on it. Great cars, families all over the world will enjoy these cars for generations. I love my 2012 LEAF, great car. I live in a hot climate and I use my LEAF daily from 80-20% charge and I suspect it might last la lifetime for my commute. . Just make sure the limited range suites your needs, if it does it could very well last a lifetime, trouble free. Very reliable cars.

My Wife has had a 30kWh Leaf for over a year now. It has about 28,000 miles and seems to still go over 110 miles on a charge if we do not need the AC or the heat. If your commute is less than 50 miles a day the 30kWh LEAF might last a lifetime. Great cars. Albeit limited range. If you have the optional quick charger port you can extend that 80% with a 20 to 30 minute quick charge. we do that sometimes when we head to the mountains or the beach. Great family cars.

I have had a ’18 LEAF for over a year, and never had had this issue.

Then you probably had the software upgrade.

Or deluding himself. It’s pretty clear from Nyland video that “fix” still has problems.

I think the real problem here is that someone did something to the car they should not have done in the first place to get the car to go into a reduced charge speed. If I have my facts stright Bjorn is a paid spokesperson for Tesla and gets his Tesla free through referral programs?

Yep I do have my facts straight, he is a paid Tesla salesman: “This Norwegian man won a free Tesla Model X just by being really convincing….”

Since Nissan does have good warranty on battery and drivetrain they have to have some confidence about it’s durability. When the warranties start to expire on gen 2 Leafs we will see where the batteries are at. I’m positive that feasible third-party options will be available by then to extend the car’s life even further.

This fix will be very welcome to me. Our 40kWh Leaf is our only car, and while it is perfect for 85% of our driving by mileage, and very good for 95%, for one trip a year it is a pain. For that one trip, we drive 1000 miles over two days, which if we manage speed and charging perfectly we can do in 12.5 hours/day. On that trip, we see a charging rate of ~45 kW on the first charge, 25 kW on the second, and 18kW or lower after that. Even if this fix just increased the rate of the second charge to 33kW and the third to 24kW we would save over an hour of charging each way on that trip. And, since we only do our trip once a year, I don’t believe it would worsen degradation by that much.

I track degradation with LeafSpy regularly, and there doesn’t appear to be any correlation between capacity loss and when we take long trips so far. We’ve driven ~12,000 miles so far and have 4.5% loss, and half appears to be from mileage, while the other half has come from three seemingly random sudden large drops.

Man as much as I like my Leaf, if I was going to drive 1000 miles in two days I’d rent a gasser.

4.5% capacity loss at 12,000 miles is a lot.

The significant loss of early 2018 Leaf battery capacity starts to taper off a little after about 18 months, at the end of year 3 (36 months), and roughly 36k miles.

Degradation should be around 10% + or – a variable of around 1%. These numbers are well within the Nissan Leaf degradation warranty (8 years / 100 k mi. tq is o 70% of capacity.

YMMV.

You definitely should NOT drive your Leaf 1000 miles over 2 days, you’re frying your battery. The car is really not designed for long roadtrips and this “software patch” is NOT a fix, it’s actually terrible since it just allows faster charging at higher battery temperature, basically giving the choice to the consumer whether or not he wants to destroy his poorly designed “passively air-cooled” (i.e. SEALED OVEN) battery.

I disagree. Maybe routinely driving 500 miles/day would be terrible for the Leaf battery, but that would be rough on any car. It would get just as hot in a Phoenix parking lot in summer, even without charging, except this is only for two days. I contend that the excess degradation from getting the battery hot while in use once or twice a year will be insignificant, at least in cool climates such as where I live.

Obviously Nissan engineers don’t agree, or they wouldn’t have limited the speed of fast-charging when the battery is hot.

You’re trying very hard to belittle the advantages of a proper liquid cooling system in preserving long battery pack life. If that wasn’t a strong advantage, then there wouldn’t be so many EV makers putting liquid cooling systems into their battery packs.

Are you charging to 100% at each stop? Try 80% charges as is recommended by the manufacturer.

OK, assuming that there is an actually a Nissan SW update, what is the Nissan service patch number or ID? I just came from my dealer, for my 2018 that is within the manufactured date range described in this article, but there isn’t any fix that pops up when the cars VIN is checked. What is the customer complaint verbiage that should be used to describe the issue so the service guys can find this patch?

I agree. I wish this article had included this information. The most value to the article is for those that need to get the fix.

Huh?? this so-called “software fix” is NOT a fix, it’s actually terrible since it just allows faster charging at higher battery temperature, basically giving the choice to the consumer whether or not he wants to destroy his poorly designed “passively air-cooled” (i.e. SEALED OVEN) battery.
Massive engineering fail yet again on Nissan’s part. As usual.

It’s funny when Tesla detractors say stuff like “wait until the big boys get involved, Tesla will start hurting really bad! The established manufacturers all know how to make cars” LOL

Nissan will solve the Rapidgate issue with a software fix?

This is like one of those bad jokes about Tesla using an OTA software fix for the problem with windows freezing shut.

And sadly, this isn’t the first time Nissan has tried to sell us a bill of goods, claiming a serious hardware deficiency with their battery packs is just a software problem. I haven’t forgotten that when premature battery fade in Leaf packs was first reported in the Phoenix area, Nissan claimed that was just a problem with calibrating a sensor inside the Leaf’s battery pack!

I give Nissan four “Pinocchios” for this level of B.S. 🙁

Never heard this before? Nissan bought back anybody’s car in Arizona that was dissatisfied. They increased the battery warranty. They developed a different chemistry that was more heat tolerant and lasted longer. Seems like they did everything they could do to solve the issue.

I am inclined to go on a rant–but nobody likes to read that. It took me 7 hours to go 94 miles yesterday. I left Palm Desert CA at 5 pm–temp about 65 degrees, and the car had been sitting for about 4 hours, after driving there from Claremont CA. On the initial trip I noticed rapid electric consumption, but passed it off. Coming home last night I LIMPED–literally, the car would not go over 60 mph from charging station to charging station–often not getting more than 20% charge at EVgo rapid charging stations, and then for example, at a 40% charge, it showed I could only go 45 miles–about 1/2 what it should be–but that was wishful thinking–I was 21 miles from the next charging station–and battery went to 0%/0miles at 19 miles. Luckily I actually made it the last 2 miles–and so it went all night long. DO NOT expect anything from roadside assistance–they could not answer ANY of my questions such as CAN the leaf be towed, or is it flat bed only–when dropped off in the middle of the night at a Nissan dealership how do I get home–they suggested an 80 mile Uber. If I… Read more »

I live in NM and just bought a 2018 leaf, anything I need to know how to protect the battery in extreme heat? I live in las cruces NM and the nearest fast charger is 65 miles away, the EV revolution is growing very slow in NM. I plan on mostly charging at home but it would be nice to do one fast charge per day in the future. I did a round trip from Las cruces NM to El Paso, about 110 miles and set the cruise control at 65 and arrived home with 18 miles left on the guesstimator , the tempature was about 50 degrees F at the time. Does this seem normal and what do I do in extreme heat? The car is garage stored.Is your battery health indicator reading less than 11 bars? Thank you in advance

I drove my wife’s 2018SL LEAF model to work today for fun instead of my 2012SL LEAF. I turned on the cruise control and it started driving itself. Cool, I never had used the autopilot thingy before. I thought you had to activate it somehow special. I also noticed it was following the car in front of me at an equal distance. I guess she had it set up to do that.

Anyways, families all over the world will love these cars, just make sure it has more than twice your daily commute mileage. You need extra mileage for AC, heat, and extra errands. IF you can use your EV in the 20-80% charge range most of the time, the LION sweet spot, and save those 100% charges for trips to granny’s house, the car might last a lifetime. Enjoy.

And a warning about autopilot and self driving cars. They do not avoid those craters in the road that will bend your
rims. We have some really bad roads where I live. If you know of a bump be sure to take over control.

I was reviewing plugshare check ins at super charger stations yesterday. Charging levels varied from slightly better than level 2 to very good. Why is there no Tesla gate? Why are you attacking Nissan and not all the other brands of EVs.