Nissan e-NV200 – What Business Owners Need to Know – Video

AUG 2 2014 BY MARK KANE 15

Nissan e-NV200

Nissan e-NV200

Nissan released one more video on e-NV200, which are now being delivered to first customers in Europe.

This time, the video is targeted at entrepreneurs, who would like to know how such an EV could be used instead of the ICE version.

Well… everything begins (or ends) with charging at night (primary method), then…

“With maintenance costs 40% lower than a diesel van the e-NV200 proves itself not just a quiet and environmentally friendly business solution, but one that positively impacts the bottom line.”

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DaveMart
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We’ve had the similar Renault versions in many varieties including crew vans for ages and they are hardly selling.

It beats me why at any rate in London as with the congestion charge the numbers when I ran them seemed to be unbeatable, and it could hardly be the battery leasing as vehicle leasing is the most common way of using vans in England.

People usually know their own affairs best, but I really could not work out why they are still fighting shy of them.

KenZ
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KenZ

I think it could be an education/familiarity thing that’ll solve itself. When people start seeing them around, they start asking questions and getting used to them. I think the adoption curve will be driven by familiarity; once people start trying them, they’ll realize how good they are, and then it’ll start to spread. But yes, I too am baffled by the slow adoption in the UK. Seems like the perfect london business vehicle.

Spec
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Spec

I think the problem is that people are just unwilling/afraid to try something new. Between the congestion charge and gasoline savings, these electric vans would be great for deliveries within London. Eventually, one service will figure it out and the rest will quickly copy them. And the UK has a pretty good Chademo infrastructure. I just think these vans need a little more battery. Bump it up to 30, 40, and 50 KWH sizes.

canopy
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canopy

I believe that the range is still too low for a commercial vehicle. What Nissan needs to do is increase the battery pack to at least 48KW and use some aluminum and plastic parts in the body (aluminum doors, plastic roof, bonnet and fenders) to compensate the additional weight of a bigger battery pack. With 48KW would be easier to get 200 miles in a single charge and probably more people would be convinced to buy one.

Spec9
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Spec9

Look up the usage patterns. 24Kwh is a bit small but these local delivery vans rarely go more than 100 miles in a day.

alain
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alain

I have a leaf , this would work for my business , but there not about to sell in quebec.wait wait somemore and somemore time time . You get the point ! And yes it a question of knowing about thème, that also is a question of time before they understand all the goodside vs range and even know they existe. 100 years of gas is a lot of programming for are little brain.

Spec
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Spec

Nissan needs to start offering larger battery packs. If they can get it to have 100+ mile range, it would be an ideal local delivery van.

Post offices should buy them by the thousands. Cities should consider banning ICE delivery vans because why allow that local pollution when it can be done pollution free. And delivery destinations should be required to install chargers because why not charge up an EV delivery vehicle while doing the loading/unloading. Meter it and and charge the deliver service who will gladly pay for the electricity instead of gasoline.

If I were Spain where these vans are built, I’d require the postal service to buy them. This reduces oil imports, creates local jobs building the eNV-200s, and creates local jobs supplying electricity, and cleans up the local air. win, win, win, and win. But again, I think all postal services should go electric.

Joshua Burstyn
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Joshua Burstyn

I agree for the most part but for many people (taxpayers particularly) sometimes have trouble taking the long view.

For example a big upgrade to the transit system in Toronto has been debated for tens of years. Why hasn’t any real progress been made? Money. There’s a huge investment required and no one wants to make a strategic investment. This is a “macro” example, but in the “micro”, business owners see the price tag for an EV and probably think quarter to quarter rather than strategically. In short municipal, provincial (state) and federal governments need to both deincentivize and incentivize the consumption of fossil fuels and the adoption of EVs, respectively. This is what has been observed to work in a concrete way – take the risk off of small, medium and even large businesses and make it a logical business decision to buy an EV.

Spec9
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Spec9

They should target businesses with leases that are low price due to the tax credits. Between the reasonable lease cost and the very cheap fuel costs, they will quickly see the light.

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The investment part is pretty easy to solve. Just have a targeted accelerated depreciation and these would be “the next big thing” immediately. Kind if like Hummers in the late 90s in the States.

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Maybe its the range they don’t like.
The DOE is trialling fuel cell REs which give a better power to weight ratio than just adding more batteries, and are a lot better in the cold as waste heat from the fuel cell keeps them warm.
http://www.plugpower.com/news/pressreleases/14-01-07/PLUG_POWER_TO_DEVELOP_FUEL_CELL_RANGE_EXTENDERS_FOR_FEDEX_EXPRESS_ELECTRIC_DELIVERY_TRUCKS.aspx

Nissan will have access to Renault’s data, who are trialling the system in conjunction with La Poste:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/12/20131211-sfc.html

I would have thought that the range of a BEV would be OK in many urban areas in European cities, and in the UK at least it rarely gets very cold, but it is no use telling customers what they should want, you just have to build what they do want.

ggpa
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ggpa

“With maintenance costs 40% lower than a diesel van” … really??

I’d love to see the breakdown of how this number is calculated.

When I think of maintenance, I think of tires, oil changes, smog tests, scheduled maintenance, and on those, an EV saves more than 40%. Or not?

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Here are the prices charged by an actual Renault dealer for fleet maintenance (I’m using Renault as they have had more vehicles comparable directly to ICE vehicles than their partners Nissan)

http://www.leyshonflintandsons.co.uk/renault-fleet-contract-hire

NB the Zoe is £15.05pm a month on a maintenance contract
The comparable Clio is £27.03

The Kangoo ZE is £12.69pm
Kangoo ICE £17.38pm

ggpa
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ggpa

Dave … interesting information, thanks.

You confirmed their numbers, but I am still curious how these numbers were calculated.

On a related note, the prices seem cheap. Does £27.03 per month really cover _all_ the maintenance on a Clio? Or only some?

Here is the US, especially at dealers, we pay a lot more for maintenance than that!

DaveMart
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DaveMart
Dunno, and I am not going to investigate to find out. These are maintenance contracts, I have one on my car and the garage take care of everything, on mine at least, but not including tyres. If it ran over, they have to pay, not the leasee. Don’t forget these will be brand new cars so hopefully not too much will go wrong. It does serve to indicate that on electric cars there is rather less to go wrong and that you don’t have to change the oil and so on, but to get a sense of proportion look at the total bill per month. The maintenance part of it is only a very small part, overwhelmingly it is to pay for the car. Unfortunately for BEVs even here in Europe that also applies to fuel costs versus depreciation, even at our fuel costs. For something like a VW Up, you pay maybe an £8k premium for the electric version even after the £5k Government subsidy. That buys a heck of a lot of petrol, and everyone in Europe knows that not only will the purchase price subsidy not last forever, but the Government’s are not going to forgo the… Read more »