Nissan Abandons 24 kWh LEAF in Europe – Only 30 kWh Model Now Available


FEB 5 2017 BY MARK KANE 43

2017 Nissan LEAF

Nissan has announced a new offer for its 2017 model year LEAF in France; one of which we believe will be similar to all of the Europe in due time.

Specifically, that Japanese EV from this year forward will be available solely with only the recently upgraded 30 kWh battery among all three trim levels (Visia, Acenta and Tekna), leaving the original 24 kWh setup forever.

2017 Nissan LEAF

We earlier reported (last October), that Nissan had quietly removed the 24 kWh trim from its North America lineup, and it now appears that the company’s battery facility in Sunderland (UK) has stopped its production of the original chemistry/24 kWh packs as well.

Prices in France for the 2017/30 kWh LEAF start at €31,900 with 205 VAT, but consumers are eligible for €6,000 worth of incentives, which helps makes the 107 mile/173 km (real world range/EPA) EV much more affordable

There is also an option in Europe still to buy the LEAF without batteries (€5,900 cheaper), and then rent the pack for those worried about its longevity.

As with the US, having only the 30 kWh version available, makes room for a future, longer-range battery version to be announced shortly…we hope.

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Is it cheaper?

You can get a 2011 LEAF with 40,000 miles for $7000 in southern California. People may have to replace the pack for another $7000..not so good.

Also available, are the 2013 Nissan Leaf SV trim, in So. California with 40K miles with all 12 capacity bars for that same $7,000. Just have to Shop Craigslist private party listings.

Just saw a 2011SL with something like 60,000 miles for… wait for it… $4995 asking. That’s BEFORE you bargain the dealer down at least $500. CarGurus seems to have the most complete list of used leafs. The number of 2011s, some low mileage, below $6k is staggering.

The 500e has liquid thermal management on the pack a 2013 with 30,000 miles sells for $6000.

“Prices in France for the 2017/30 kWh LEAF start at €31,900 with 20% VAT, but consumers are eligible for €6,000 worth of incentives, which helps makes the 107 mile/173 km (real world range/EPA) EV much more affordable”

Even so, this car isn’t worth 26.000 euro.
I really don’t get it, wth are people thinking when parting with that kind of money for this crap of a car.

I have a 2015 Leaf and while the range is at best marginal the car itself is actually pretty Nice.

why do you think it is a crap car? Comfortable, quite, smooth efficient utilization of space. Comes with XM radio. Heater works as does the defroster without a huge impact on range. It isn’t a MB or BMW but it is a good car.

Oh, and its ugly.

But not as ugly or unimaginative as American cars

I like it a lot.

The defrosted is a huge hit on the battery in cold weather because it runs the a/c and Heather at the same time.

I just turn off the ac when running defrost. It hotter when I do still. Still affects my range, but I love my leaf.

At least compared to the US Leaf, its rather cheap. About $25k before taxes and incentives. If they would just lower the MSRP to match that, in the US, instead of discounts. People would be much more interested, since it’s 12.5k cheaper than the Bolt.

“Shortly”, is that hopefully the Geneva auto show on March 9 – 19? Or, possibly this fall in Paris, on October 10 – 16? Or, last but not least, Tokyo on October 27 – November 5? It is hard to know how much ground, Carlos Goshen and Nissan are willing to give up, to GM and the Chevy Bolt in North America, before they show Nissans next hand with 2018 Leaf 2.0.

Nissan released a special trim of the Leaf late last year and said it would be available through August, and that’s what I use to guide my belief that the Gen 2 will be a September release.

Makes sense.. These days anything with less than 100 miles of (EPA rated) range is now obsolete.

Hopefully soon 200 miles EPA.

I hope not. Now that the race to 200 miles has been won, there’s really a decent case for producing a model with a bit more range than a LEAF but still less than 200. Such a product would have lower battery costs than a 200-mile car which makes it more affordable.

Or like Tesla, offer several different battery sizes at different price points.

Yes a 130 mile cheaper car would be good, but it would be a mistake for Nissan to ignore the 200+ mile range EV.

They have 3 trim levels, so why not 3 battery packs/ranges? 130, 170, 210?

Why not have battey size options independent and on all 3 trim leves?

Some might want a basic EV with long range, and some might prefer a nicer EV but not need max range!

Yeah . . . this. There are people that really don’t need 200+ miles, so unless it is very cheap, why not provide the option for a 150 mile range version?

Sub 100 miles though is a bit obsolete at this point though considering cold weather and battery prices.

Also, it would be nice if more companies build like Tesla such that batteries are upgradeable without too much difficulty.

Come on Nissan, in Geneva wee need a bigger battery for Leaf and in September we need Leaf 2.

A good move by Nissan from this point on is to only offer the 30 kWh battery as a replacement on all older cars, 2011-2017; A universal battery will save them money on building cells/batteries and maintaining an inventory as well. Additionally, replacing a slightly larger capacity battery in a $7,000 used Leaf for $6,000 would start to make sense.

Some time ago there was a report of someone getting a 30kw battery as a replacement (the dash predicting 130 miles and stating 4 miles per kw, but I’ve never seen confirmation of this being the case. That would be great. Wonder whether the van will get the bigger battery, its about time.

Good move. Compared to Bolt, the range has moved up to exactly half-assed.

But compared to the Bolt at our event yesterday, the LEAF front seats are comfortable. Not these narrow, thinly padded Bolt seat bottoms which actually dig into you and kind of hurt when you exit the car. That’s the same thing everyone noticed yesterday at our EV event. Everyone was looking at the Model X and my i3, and the Bolt was pretty much unnoticed. The cheap plastic interior is appropriate for a $15000 car, not a $40,000 car. At least a LEAF SL interior is decently luxurious and not cramped like the front seats of a Bolt. I had no problem putting on 600 miles on my i3 BEV this week without even trying.I never once felt the need for more range than I have now, that would warrant carrying around all that extra battery capacity all the time.

Any new Nissan Leaf 24 kwh editions are now extinct because it has been greatly surpassed by EVolution.

Did this move just push down used Leaf sales prices?

Especially, since I remember Nissan saying they would only replace the 24 with another 24, and not a 30?

Meanwhile here in Australia, we can’t buy any 30kWh Leaf. The only “new” ones are old 2012 stock, and there seems to be no action at all regarding newer models.

Sounds like they are abandoning the Australian market. The LEAF was always over priced there anyway, don’t know why they bothered at those prices.

If you are unhappy with the current state of the Australian EV market might I suggest providing comment to the government consultation paper:

This is pretty much the best chance you’ll get to have your voice heard on the subject.

sorry that was aimed at Charles, I think JP White is an American.

Having said that as far as I can tell anyone can comment on the policy document, Exxon/mobile provided comment on the first round of public consultation so I can’t see why others couldn’t.

BTW, Exxon felt that a vehicle emission standard was unnecessary.

Actually when you look at it our Leaf was the same price as anywhere else. The difference is that our government has provided zero incentives, so the actual price paid by the consumer is very high. At the start of this EV development cycle that is to be expected that $20k-$30k car is selling for $50k.
Without your incentives the US EV’s wouldn’t look so attractive either.
The big joke is that Nissan Australia is still asking $40k for a 2012 model car rather than heavily writing them down to move them. And we have no information if they still have stock.

Unless there is demand, there will not be anyone coming with EV models.

How about you get some proper EV incentives to get the market started?

Some real bargains on Leafs out there.Shorter range will be less of an issue as charging infrastructure gets more development. Irony is long range batteries will be less important as time goes on, yet that seems to be the current focus.

Actually, it would be the complete opposite. As battery range increases then there will be less dependence on the charging network. The vast majority of daily driving is commuting well within the range of an EV’s home, so less need to charge when out-and-about. Instead of needing to charge daily with my current 80 mile range Leaf I now only need to charge about once every 3 days with Bolt. The need to find a charger won’t be so urgent whenever I leave my home with a full charge (with a Bolt)

Spot on.

Longer range EV’s will depress the demand for local level 2 charging infrastructure.

Infrastructure will probably focus on L3 charging stations on major highways for long trips only. The faster charge rates announced by several charging stations OEM’s will only be available to the bigger battery models.

Geneva announcement or I buy a Hyundai ioniq hybrid to replace my 2012 Leaf for 22.750 euro’s… And wait a couple of years for m3, keeping my reservation.

The Sunderland plant has been producing 40 kWh batteries for some time now. I wonder where they are doing with those packs?

I had not seen that. Where did you read about 40kWh packs?

Really, 40? I only got my 30 in September! That would make about 120 miles even with a heavy right foot! 😀

It’s so sad that Nissan built such a good chassis and interior for the Leaf only to find that in a few short year the battery is no good and probably will not be able to be replaced.

If 30kwh battery is not compatible with 24kwh vehicle, and they don’t make 24kwh batteries any more, then your Leaf now has an actual obsolescence period. When the battery is no longer fit for purpose then the car is useless.

It would be interesting for some smart technical person to look at the space in the 24kwh battery pack and see if the Tesla batteries could be fit in there at the same or greater capacity. Is it just a case of emulating the 96 cells or is there much more complexity to it?