Employee Launches New Tesla Roadster On Test Track – Video

Tesla Roadster

FEB 19 2018 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 35

Some people doubt the abilities and even reality of the second-generation Tesla Roadster, though we aren’t sure why.

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Tesla Roadster 2.0 on test track

Tesla CEO Elon Musk is known for his big announcements. Some are widely publicized in advance (i.e. the Tesla Semi) and others come as a big surprise. While some of us assumed that the Model Y, Tesla pickup, or Roadster 2.0 might make an appearance at the automaker’s electric semi event, Musk caught us by surprise when the Roadster appeared with its incredible specs and was available for test rides.

Several have suggested that the Semi and Roadster hype was mainly to take eyes off Model 3 production concerns. However, now, both have been spotted out testing/driving and although they’re a few years off (and perhaps longer based on “Tesla time”), the automaker seems to be aggressively working with the vehicles. With its limited time and resources, it would seem silly to be directing energy and manpower toward something that will never exist.

Related – New Tesla Roadster Now On Display At HQ

Nonetheless, Tesla’s plate is heaping full. Let’s hope that it can keep its priorities organized and put primary focus on getting Model 3 production up to speed, as well as releasing the base and dual-motor variants. Not to mention the vast importance (and anticipated popularity) of the Model Y, and getting it underway ahead of a lower volume commercial vehicle and a high-priced electric supercar for the wealthy.

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I think it’s more about maintaining the hype than distracting per se. Tesla needs all the good will it can get from investors and supporters, while it seeks to become profitable, and the Roadster helps.

Personally, I am sure that the Roadster will be amazing, but I doubt that it will be as fast, and perhaps even as quick as Musk says it will. 250 mph is really really fast. On paper, it beats an F1 (forget FE) in both top speed and acceleration. How is that possible? Staying on the road, cooling, braking, etc. are all huge challenges. We will have to wait and see.

Dan has a measured take.

The top speed and acceleration don’t seem outlandish considering the 200kWh battery pack. It’s that battery pack that is hard to believe. Comparing to the Model S pack, it would be 10 cubit feet and 2600 pounds. That doesn’t sound like something that would fit in a roadster.

Dan’s points have little to do with the pack size. At those speeds and acceleration there’s a lot of physics going on. Going fast with an EV is easy, but controlling it and stopping it are very different things.

Are you saying this will handle like a formula one car?

“Comparing to the Model S pack, it would be 10 cubit feet and 2600 pounds. That doesn’t sound like something that would fit in a roadster.”

FYI, the original Roadster’s battery pack was about 10 cubic feet in volume. So you might want to re-think that. 🙂

On paper? I saw a car doing 0-60 in under 2.0 seconds and doing that for doing it for hours over and over again.
I suppose delivering thousands of Model 3 is just Tesla maintaining the hype.

The 0-60 is actually the believable part. ICE cars lose precious time in that exercise, due to inertia in the fuel injection and transmission systems. It’s quite apparent when you seen them side-by-side with an EV, where the ICE car struggles to find its footing and the EV darts out like a slingshot. Where I am more skeptical is with regard o top speed. At 250 mph, a car needs heavy downforce to prevents it from going airborne. It also dispenses a lot of energy, and that means lots of cooling (EVs need to operate at roughly ambient temperature, so they need about the same amount of cooling as an ICE). Then there is the issue of stoppage of such a heayy car.

Obviously, a full on Bugatti Chiron Side by side will be in order at some point, and required marketing video, for this new Roadster!

Like a win at 0-400-0 Kph!

Best Nürburgring track Times! (Essentially critical fo Elon to reach his goal, of a final ‘Smackdown on ICE Vehicles!’)

And a verifiable 620 Miles, or 1,000+ Kms range!

However, let’s not foget, Elon said, this was discovered in a prototype, in a ‘Base Model!’ Since they have a couple years yet to work on it, it would seem, that they know they will have to prove their specs to many, in the world of ‘Put up or shut up!’

However, from a 0-60 of 1.9 seconds, to just 40 Mph faster in the 0-100 at 4.2 Seconds, it seems that this cars acceleration is already slowing, with that next 40 Mph taking 2.3 Seconds! So….does it use a 2 or 3 speed gearbox in any of those 3 motors it uses?

Or will we see verifyable proof on the 250+ Mph Top Speed, anytime before 1st deliveries?

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

That’s why I did not mention that part, since I agree those things have not been demonstrated publicly, nor has driving it 600 miles on a charge.
So, yes we will have to wait and see, though I am of the opinion that it will do everything Tesla says it can and maybe a bit more, matching or exceeding the best the ice has to offer, at about 1/3 of the price.

The trick is that an F1 car would kill it around any actual race track. Also Bugatti Veyron is slow as hell on a track.

Tesla has repeatedly failed to live up to their production forecasts but NOT ONCE has Tesla failed to EXCEED performance projections.

Thank you.

It’s bizarre to see any serious questioning of Tesla’s claims for the performance of the Roadster Mk II. (Don’t call it the “Roadster 2.0”; that and the Roadster 2.5 were versions of the original Roadster.)

Tesla has always met or exceeded its stated performance goals for its cars.

“Some people doubt the abilities and even reality of the second-generation Tesla Roadster, though we aren’t sure why.”

Ohh, you mean the same way a lot of the readers on this website doubt all the effort the Volkswagen Group or General Motors is putting into it’s upcoming EVs?

I might not have been reading this blog long enough to know but there is some serious bias going on here where even the author takes sides on EVs. What I have noticed is that if anyone speaks out against Tesla, they get vilified and are branded “shorts”. I’ve never even heard of that term until I started reading the comments on this blog!

I’d like some non biased responses to explain this phenomenon to me.

You really don’t understand? You need to read the news more.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/jul/12/drivers-loss-of-power-vw-emissions-fix-class-action
You also apparently don’t follow the stock market. Guessing someone is “short” or “long” on a stock isn’t vilification, it just gives context to the posts of some users. Although I hold no TSLA stock, feel free to accuse me of being “long” 😉
https://www.investor.gov/introduction-investing/basics/how-market-works/stock-purchases-sales-long-short

He probably has never heard of the EV-1 issue in the past either.

http://www.ev1.org/

VW: some fix!

“Damon Parker, head of litigation at Harcus Sinclair UK, said: “These results show that the ‘fix’ intended to reduce NOx emissions may, in fact, have a detrimental impact on the car’s performance and running costs.”
And…worse!
Great Links, both of them!

There are lot of people that come here just to denigrate Tesla. In fact nary a Tesla story goes by that they don’t harp on the one cannon points of the shorts.
1.Tesla is broke and will go bankrupt.
2. Panel Gap Gate.
3. EVs pollute as much, or more than ice.
4. Musk is a charlatan and Tesla is a sham.
5. Tesla Killers are coming and will destroy Tesla.
It just goes on and never stops.

Personally I feel sorry for anyone who shorts Tesla, it’s just not very smart, unless it’s like $380+ then it seems reasonable.
Lately the shorts have been getting stomped and the desperation and perturbation of those shorts involved with the stock is evident.
Now with Jay gone and Tesla up it will probably get worse.

And there is the rub. You say a lot of people are here to denigrate Tesla, but based on the size of the Insideevs community, it is a very small amount.

I agree there are people who just stir the pot for no other reason to see fan boys swirl in its whirlpool. However, if anyone voices an opinion opposite to the adulation thrown at Tesla, they’re of course deemed, shorts. It is this dubious behavior that does not allow for open discussion when it comes to Tesla.

That was well said.

I completely agree about your final point. I do not appreciate the name calling, my preference is an open discussion where pros and cons can be discussed civilly.

I don’t like seeing all the people pro-Tesla gang up and vilify the people who have an opposing opinion. It just reveals that the readers here are nothing more than zealots. I want nothing to do with this kind of community.

“Some people doubt the abilities and even reality of the second-generation Tesla Roadster, though we aren’t sure why.”

Ohh, you mean the same way a lot of the readers on this website doubt all the effort the Volkswagen Group or
General Motors is putting into it’s upcoming EVs?

Problem: Tesla build real demo models that ran and even let people climb in the trucks, and did a number of test drives
in the Roadster 2.0.

Volkswagen Group has published pretty pictures only. The models people allowed to see are in-city people movers,
not cars that people want.

GM has the Bolt, then has limited its production.

Neither has next generation cars doing test runs that people can see.

Porsche is testing a car in the real world,
Jaguar is testing a car in the real world,
Nissan Leaf is testing a car in the real world.

Notice: Those three have nothing to do with Tesla!

People here don’t want to hear about another concept car, another CGI picture,
we at the least want to a demo of a demo of a real car we want to buy.

Porsche is part of the Volkswagen Group. Of course Volkswagen Group is testing it’s vehicles, how else do you test prototypes.

Cut out that excuse with the Bolt EV being produced at a limited amount. You can buy it today, stop coming up with excuses!

You have just proved to me that are one of the blind fanboys on this blog that spams any reason to put down anyone other than Tesla.

“What I have noticed is that if anyone speaks out against Tesla, they get vilified and are branded ‘shorts’. I’ve never even heard of that term until I started reading the comments on this blog!” Until I started reading online comments about Tesla, I didn’t know what “FUD” was, either. Sadly, I’ve had to educate myself on that subject. Most companies are not targeted by FUDsters, and most short-sellers don’t spend time online making dozens or scores of FUD posts attacking the company they’re short-selling, either. For some reason, that seems to be uniquely an anti-Tesla phenomenon. Some people seem so obsessed with writing Tesla hater posts that I call the anti-Tesla FUDsters “cultists”. But if you have any serious doubt the phenomenon of stock short-sellers posting anti-Tesla FUD on a daily basis, in an attempt to tear down the reputation of Tesla Inc., just go online to either Yahoo Finance or Seeking Alpha, and do a search there on “tesla”. After reading a few dozen comments, you won’t have any more doubt about it. The percentage of posts here at InsideEVs which are anti-Tesla FUD has been rising so much that I fear this is going to be yet… Read more »

Indeed a measured take, but perhaps not the best comparison. Remember that Formula 1 top speed is limited by the technical difficulty of the tracks where they compete and the homologated aerodynamics which are designed for massive downforce while cornering. Downforce, generally speaking, is at odds with too speed.

Furthermore, F1 cars are, IIRC, turbocharged small displacement high RPM engines. They are very fast, but lack off the line punch like two powerful electric motors deliver.

…and the roadster has 3.

Forgot that point regarding 3 motors. Thanks.

Too speed should read top speed.

“…Formula 1 top speed is limited by the technical difficulty of the tracks where they compete and the homologated aerodynamics which are designed for massive downforce while cornering. Downforce, generally speaking, is at odds with too speed.”

I was reading online about Formula 1 engineering and downforce just a few weeks ago. I learned, to my great surprise, that the Formula 1 rules put severe limits on the easiest ways to engineer cars for a high amount of downforce.

Tesla won’t have any such limitation. The idea that Tesla will have great difficulty engineering the Roadster Mk II to have sufficient downforce… well, I find that idea rather uninformed, to say the least. Compared to engineering a Formula 1 race car, it will be bog easy.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that by the time the Roadster 2 is on the market, much higher density batteries will be available. There is a lot of speculation about the solid-state battery by Goodenough. Has Tesla decided this is the one to go with? Maybe, but whatever design, I think Tesla has already picked their next generation battery and probably has prototype in the new Roadster.

Comments from those who put down their money for the Roadster, at the Tesla Semi Reveal, state that the floor of the prototype is quite high, like a double stacked P100D Pack. And for now, that might simply be true, and why Tesla / Elon, is calling it ‘The Base Model!’

I meant, put their money down, and went for a quick test ride!

It’s just another display of Tesla’s dominance in the motor vehicle field.

Looks slower than P100D.

It’s the lower trim/base model?
Lol, just yanking your chain.

Sorry to ask this here, but…
Are we supposed to get emailed if and when someone replies to one of our comments? If not, WHY NOT? Why else do we put in an email address? I never get email notification and I do not want to refresh the page… annoying (is that what others do?!)

I can’t speak for InsideEVs and I don’t know all the reasons why IEVs requires us to enter our email address when they don’t ask us to register. (My guess is that helps keep down “sock puppet” IDs, but that’s just a guess.)

However, on the positive side, I note that if you register an email address at Gravatar.com then your chosen avatar will show up here.