Mythbusting – Volkswagen e-Golf Range Commercial

JUL 24 2014 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 27

Myth #1

Myth #1

Some say Volkswagen isn’t committed to plug-in vehicles.

Well, that attitude towards VW will likely die off soon, especially with advertisements such as the VW e-Golf “Goodbye Gas” spot seen a couple months back and this “Mythbuster” spot shown here:

“Myth #01: The driving range of an electric car isn’t very far.”

“The Mythbuster is getting pretty tired of hearing how you can only get to the end of your street in an e-car. Fortunately he’s taken time out from his busy schedule to prove the myth wrong. All it takes is a little spin in an e-Golf.”

Officially, Volkswagen says that the e-Golf has a range of “up to 190 km (118 miles) on a single charge,” but as of yet no EPA rating is available.  A more reasonable range figure would be approximately 80 miles and even VW agrees with that:

“Depending on driving style and charging behavior, the average real world range for the e-Golf is between 70 and 90 miles, while maximum range is approximately 115 miles.”

  • 85 kW electric motor
  • 24.2 kWh lithium-ion battery pack

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27 Comments on "Mythbusting – Volkswagen e-Golf Range Commercial"

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Alaa

FYI Tesla is going to make a 500 mile car. That is 800 km. That is more than FOUR times what the Golf can do and the price is not 4 times. It is less because the cost of charging in a Tesla is free for LIFE.

Spec

Yeah, and no one but the ultra rich will buy it because it will be REALLY expensive and who needs 500 miles of range?

Rob Stark

That is 500 EPA miles or 300 miles in extreme weather.

Plenty of people can use 300 miles of range in extreme weather with heater at full tilt at 30 below driving through snow or the AC cranked to 11 during Summer in a Arizonan heat wave with the TMS working on overdrive.

Anyone in the US top 10% income earners or top 40% of Norwegian income earners can afford it. That does not fit any reasonable persons definition of ultra rich.

Alaa

+1
Not to mention the Germans. They drive over 180 km/h and more; thus they need that extra battery to make it travel as you say 300 miles at high speeds. The cost is really not high considering that the fuel is for free. Have you ever seen how fast a BMW eats away your fuel while driving at 200 km/h? I used to joke and say that if you rev this v8 BMW you see the needle of the fuel gauge move back and forth! In the Tesla it is free fuel from the sun for LIFE.

Jouni Valkonen

+1²

Tony Williams

They built a 2011 LEAF except it won’t have CHAdeMO quick charge capability to use at 4000 public charge stations worldwide. That hardly describes anything but mediocrity.

VW is required to comply with California Air Resources Board rules starting in model year 2015, and this compliance car is exactly what will be used for that purpose. Making a misleading video with inflated range info doesn’t change the facts.

Spec

Yeah, that is great if you live in Japan.

But let it go. The big 3 USA auto makers and the big 3 German auto makers went with CCS. The die is cast.

Tony Williams

I’m not sure what I’m supposed to “let go” from. The facts?

I stated quite accurately that this car will not use the world’s 4000 CHAdeMO chargers, but I didn’t clarify that was FOR USA SALES; VW will likely offer CHAdeMO for Japan sales, just like BMW is currently doing with their i3.

So, the world leaders in volume EV production do not use CCS anywhere in the world, but that’s not the case with the limited production and non-existent EV’s from the several US and all German auto makers.

Not a single auto manufacturer anywhere else in the world has adopted CCS. There are less than 20 of the US specification CCS Combo1 public chargers in the USA, zero in Canada, and these plugs are not compatible with the CCS Combo2 “Menekkes” style plug used in Europe.

CHAdeMO has over 600 public chargers in the USA, over 1200 in Europe and about 2000 in Japan. It continues to grow fast, and has direct support of the largest EV manufacturer in the world, Nissan.

All facts… nothing to let go of.

io

@Spec: I live in the US. In a ~100 miles radius are 60+ CHAdeMO QCs, 2 Tesla SC and… exactly one CCS (actually a dual-standard QC), at VW’s.

I could ‘let it go’ as you say, wait several more years, hoping that the Germans catch up. With BMW stating that public charging isn’t important, and Daimler forgoing QC capability altogether, that’s rather unlikely don’t you think?

Or I could just continue to enjoy my EV today, every day, without having to constantly keep some charge for unexpected errands, or other limitations.

Charging in minutes instead of hours is a game-changer. Knowing what I know today, I absolutely wouldn’t buy an EV lacking this capability. Too bad only Nissan, Tesla, Mitsubishi and soon Kia actually make it possible so far.

mustang_sallad

Does that mean the Leaf was mediocre when it came out and there weren’t any CHAdeMO stations? CCS stations are popping up quickly. 23 in the US now, and when i checked a month ago it was 16.

mutle

And more than 200 (at least 235 according to my last count) in Europe where the first CCS cars shipped a few months earlier.

mutle

I honestly don’t think this is a compliance car by any definition (except maybe one that says “only Tesla and Nissan cars are not compliance cars”). This will sell well in Europe and especially Norway where the regular Golf has been the most popular car for years. I don’t know about VW’s US plans but I think they will want to sell this outside of California as well even though they don’t earn any CARB credits for it if they do. Sure, it is similar to the LEAF in some regards, but do you call the LEAF a compliance car?

Tony Williams

The LEAF absolutely meets Nissan’s obligation to CARB-ZEV compliance; what you’re asking is if the LEAF meets only the minimum compliance level, which of course it does not with over 50,000 sold everywhere in the USA and over 100,000 worldwide.

The only two companies offering EV’s in the USA that are not required to meet any CAFB-ZEV compliance is Tesla and Mitsubishi (due to their extremely small sales in California).

Unless the rules change, virtually all the manufcturers will be required to sell EV’s in the following states starting with model year 2018. Naturally, hydrogen cars have been exempt from this requirement and will be allowed to only be sold in California.

California, New York, Massachusetts, Oregon, Vermont, Maryland, Connecticut and Rhode Island.

The eight states combined account for 23 percent of U.S. vehicle sales, according to California’s Air Resources.

Suprise Cat

The advertisement for the e-Golf ran some weeks, the advertisements for the Golf runs all the year.

Anon

Damn, is that guy “Fish Belly White”! His translucent skin is creepin’ me out…

Electric Car Guest Drive

At least it has CCC DC Quick Charge, which will eventually be supported. (I really can not see many new QCs outside of Nissan, Kia and Mitsu dealers being installed without dual standard chargers to support BMW, Chevy & VW).

Better than Toyota, Ford, Fiat and somewhat curiously, Mercedes.

Electric Car Guest Drive

Actually, I like that VW has released an EV version of a top-selling model with conventional styling. That deserves kudos. I am also impressed that they are building their own drive trains and batteries which shows far more commitment than many of the other major automakers. Although they are not moving the marker forward, they are at least catching up.

Tony Williams

Yes, VW is “catching up”. But, they aren’t doing it out of their fondness for EV’s. They, like the following, are required to offer Zero Emission Vehicles in the following credit percentages:

For 2015 model year and beyond:

“BMW, Fiat/Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Daimler/Mercedes, Nissan, Toyota, and Volkswagen must comply with the new requirements. Four additional manufacturers would also be required to comply with the ZEV requirements, but would be allowed to meet their obligation with PHEVs.”

Model Year – Total ZEV Percent Requirement

2012 ———— 0.79%
2018 ———— 2.00%
2019 ———— 4.00%
2020 ———— 6.00%
2021 ———— 8.00%
2022 ———– 10.00%
2023 ———– 12.00%
2024 ———– 14.00%
2025 ———– 16.00%

electriccarguestdrive.com

Haha. Tony, you and I have a fondness for EVs. VW has a business to run. And until there is a global carbon/emissions tax that incents them to make the cleanest cars in the world, they’ll just make what people buy the most of. And of course comply with whatever regulations they have to. And resist, through lobbying, then ones that impinge on making the most money possible, which means taking financial responsibility for the externalities of their product. Just like all the other automakers who are responsible primarily to shareholders.

Which is why the CARB mandates are so important. As Mary Nichols said: “We’re not in the car business. We’re in the clean air business”.

At least now Tesla gives people a chance to vote with their wallet, as well as their ballot.

BravelilToaster

Where did these myths come from? The Leaf’s been out for 3 whole years already and has been dispelling them all the whole time.

Turbofroggy

Myth # 127 – VW will actually sell the e-Golf in the US
Myth #128 – VW will sell the g-Golf outside of California.

Surya

With a similar size, battery pack, power in the electric motor and NEDC range, expect the e-golf to have an EPA rating very similar to the Leaf.

Spec

Yep. Someone needs to build a low-end aerodynamic EV that can get a good range while driving fast. So far, it looks like Tesla will have to do it.

DaveMart

VW/Audi is in a great position to dispel the myths about electric vehicles, as they spent so long promoting them!

Still, there is more joy in heaven…..

electriccarguestdrive.com

Best line of the day.

CSS

+1 🙂

Curtis Ling

he should try it in the middle of aust
here some houses are miles apart XD