Motor Trend Says Tesla Model 3 Performance Rattles Hierarchy

Tesla Model 3 Performance

JUL 25 2018 BY DOMENICK YONEY 102

No faint praise here.

Just ahead of the initial Tesla Model 3 handover event last summer, Motor Trend was the first to get its grimy mitts on the all-electric mid-sized sedan and alert the world to its wonders. Now, with the release of the Performance version of the car, wheel-and-pen guy Kim Reynolds again has wrangled some time in the driver’s seat. He seems as enthusiastic as ever.

In that first review, Reynolds dubbed the Model 3 “the most important vehicle of the century.” Now, blessed with a year’s worth of software updates, an extra motor for more might and traction, and the tires to help make the most of its new-found muscle, he says of this spicy version, “…a high-performance hierarchy has been rattled. The European marques perennially atop the sport sedan podium are about to have trapdoors release beneath them.” That’s not faint praise.

Renolds only had 45 minutes with the car this time, and that was with a number of passengers and un-ideal traffic situations. Still, the man has, he says, driven more than 7,000 different vehicles over his career and so we think his judgment is worth listening to. Besides his personal observations, he notes that acceleration-wise, the latest Tesla is a good bit quicker than some of its noblest competitors. The M3P, with it 450 horsepower and 471 pound-feet of torque, officially does the 0-to-60 miles-per-hour deed in 3.5 seconds, while the BMW M3 Competition pack does it in 4.3 seconds; the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio in 3.9; the AWD Audi RS4 in 4.2 seconds. Impressive.

While Reynolds ride didn’t allow him to push all the performance parameters — they will eventually get the car again for more extensive testing — he did give us a little more info on its track mode, which is still under development. Apparently, the regen settings can adjust and strengthen to make up for potential fading from the physical brakes. A neat trick indeed.

While he does write other positive notes about updates to the upholstery and the changes to driver’s controls via software updates, he does have some criticism. With only red brake calipers and an (optional) carbon fiber lip on the trunk lid, the Performance version lacks the visual menace of some other brand’s sportified sedans. Though many of us like this “sleeper” aspect of the car, we do sympathize and note that the aftermarket is more than likely working on parts that will make it stick out from the crowd.

All-in-all, it’s a pretty great read for fans of fast electric vehicles so, enjoy!

 

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Tesla rattled the auto industry into doing something about electric transportation. Having great performance, Tesla cars force their competitors to finally wake up and amp up for the ride!

I think the real wake up for the industry is when Tesla shows they can make a healthy consistent profit doing it. I think any major auto manufacture could make a competing product to Tesla, but what’s the point if it loses money? Favorite Saturday Night Live skit – a bank that only makes change. Give them a dollar they will give you 4 quarters, or 10 dimes, etc.. When asked how the bank makes money? The answer – volume.

I dont understand the down votes on this comment… He’s right, if Tesla posts a profit in Q3, that’s a major “oh crap” moment for all the doubters.

Maybe it could have been worded better.

He says that the real wake up call happens after Tesla makes a profit. This is not entirely true. Compelling cars from Tesla reveal the pent-up consumer demand and that’s what drives other automakers to enter the market sooner rather than later.

There’s always demand for a bargain. And if you sell cars at a loss, that’s what you’re giving customers.

No matter how many hundreds or thousands of times you describe Tesla investing in growing its business as a “loss”, it’s not magically going to come true.

“You have to be in it, to win it”, TM3X2. A differentiated EV market is coming, in which Tesla will share. I agree, here, but the segment growth should do more to help, than I think competition will hurt. I doubt anyone will produce a mid-line EV, as sporty as Tesla have in Model 3. A badge doesn’t do what 3.6-4k pounds can (EV, but still?), and it’s Tesla’s badge that has the shine of planetary innovation, not others.

The company doesn’t have to wait until Q3. They only need to “guide” on what average selling price is, and update on orders so analysts can adjust their models. Then, the possibilities narrow. If it really only costs 28k, or so, and Tesla hasn’t had to reach for the 35k option before ~October, to me they will have reached escape velocity.

Contrasting take-aways, for Q2, may never be so sharply different (historic vs. future). Disc: I’m long

no, he is not right.
He does not understand manufacturing, or economics.

I downvoted because I’m sick of hearing the trope that other car manufacturers can just “do what Tesla is doing”. No, they cannot. First, they are years away from building a battery supply chain. Second, only Porsche has even started to invest in long range charging infrastructure.

Yes, they can pump out low volume EVs like the Bolt but they have shown no aptitude for creating and manufacturing a mass appeal EV.

If Mercedes, BMW, and Audi could “just do it” then why haven’t they? Tesla has been eating their lunch in a number of markets.

“Eating their lunch” – what lunch would that be? Thin air? Because Tesla hasn’t turned a profit, so there’s no proverbial lunch to eat.

“Cranking our low volume” – OMG, are you actually suggesting Tesla is a high-volume makes?

“Why can’t they?” What makes you think they can’t? They just started development of their EV portfolio after Tesla; every marque you mentioned are nearing production of multiple EV platforms (particularly Audi, which is VW, which is Porsche, which is about to release an EV, so…)

“Years away from building a battery delivery system.” Says who? You? Link that objectively suggests this (btw, you do know that automakers often use suppliers, right? That building every single component of a car in house is necessary, nor desirable?).

Sales .. you are focused on Tesla’s profit but for some reason you don’t see the lost profit of the other car companies. Every Tesla sold means someone did not buy one of their cars.

The car companies may be doing well, but that does not help the dealer/salesperson who saw the Tesla driving by with people they were trying to sell a ICE car to.

You don’t understand it? It’s very simple – for some weird reason, some people meld their identities to corporations (for example, Apple), so when you question said corporation, they take it as a personal attack. Really, really weird phenomena, but not all that uncommon (and embarrassing).

Do you also think being a fan of one particular professional sports team is “weird” or “embarrassing”? No?

Then why is being a fan of one particular “team” which is building a brand of cars — the team that is a company — any different? What’s weird is your attitude, dude.

This website is for people interested in EVs. Since that’s obviously not your interest, don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out.

What “Kind A Weird” may not have heard of is the decades (or century) old Chevy/Ford fan battle. Talk about personal attack, just watch what happens when a Ford fan criticizes a Chevy fan, or vice versa. Beatings and weapons may ensue.

People here downvote on principle no matter how accurate or not what someone says. Mix of Tesla and anti-Tesla politics.

Perhaps it was this part of his comment: “I think any major auto manufacture could make a competing product to Tesla…”

Once again with the nonsense that all EVs will be as alike as peas in the pod, and that Tesla doesn’t have any high-tech advantage.

I think Sandy Munro pretty thoroughly demonstrated exactly the opposite in his second, highly informative TM3 “teardown” video.

https://insideevs.com/munro-tesla-model-3-profitable/

What tech benefits do they have? The Nvidia board that they use? Tesla doesn’t have a semiconductor plant or a fab team. Given Tesla switch to permanent magnet motors a lot of others have more experience and everyone designs their own inverters and controllers. And do you honestly think GM, VW, Toyota, etc… couldn’t drop a billion dollars to build a charging network? The point when EV’s take off there will have to be a lot more charging infrastructure than we can even imagine to sort fringe cases.

There is nothing right about it. However your “oh crap moment” may be spot on! The company has been a tiny infrastructure building gnat in the land of heavy industrial giants, all with 75 to 120 year production and production asset building head starts and having their own massive, ongoing capital needs.

It makes money on operations and pours that back into much R&D and some CAPEX for “new” projects, not suffering losses on current products! How does it make money, on older existing projects – with very little relative volume, even while the Model 3 has expanded its own volume of production by 600% every six months!

From $12 B in revenue last year, and over $20 B this year, to likely much more than $30 B next year, yes that’s an “oh crap moment!” “Give them a dollar they will give you 4 quarters, or 10 dimes, etc.,” PHSHAWW!

You are so right, except for being 100% wrong.
All Tesla cars, except the roadster, HAVE been profitable and with high margins. So, what is causing Tesla to lose money? Well, they did not have high enough volume, as well as they have had to spend billions on new factories, new robotics, new show/service rooms, a new charging set-up, but most of all, R&D.
With the volume increasing, Tesla is now talking to their suppliers and pushing down how much they pay. So, yeah, for them volume IS their answer.

You said earlier “He does not understand manufacturing, or economics.”

Maybe you should follow your own advice for once and keep your mouth shut about something you have very little clue on…

Gross margins on products != net profit…

MMF — Except it is only you who are confused about what he is talking about. Everybody else understands. You are getting too pedantic over the individual words in a non-financial forum to see the message.

So what you’re saying is that Tesla is profitable, except for not being profitable. “Capital expenditures” – heard of them? Yeah, that “capital” part is important, and generally profitable companies raise it by selling product at a price that allows their amortization. Everything is profitable if you exclude every cost from your margin calculus lol. Oh, and how are those margins without the $5b/ in gov subisidies?

Thank goodness Tesla is investing in long-term growth, and ignoring the “greed is good” philosophy of short-term thinking that has ruined so many formerly strong American companies. The same short-term thinking you’re exhibiting in every one of your posts, dude.

No matter how many time y’all try to describe Tesla’s strong investments in growth as “losses”, that doesn’t change the reality.

BTW — Speaking of losses, how is your “short” investment in Tesla stock? 😀

“Oh, and how are those margins without the $5b/ in gov subisidies?”

Tesla’s business model is based on how things actually are in the real world, not on your concern troll fantasies, dude. If things change, then Tesla will need to change its business model to adapt. Duh!

Do you think Tesla is the only manufacture that spends money on R&D? Most have several vehicles in various phases of R&D. You don’t produce something and forget about it. I guarantee as soon as the Bolt hit preproduction they were already in R&D for follow-on changes.

It is the ratio of cars in production to cars in R&D that is different for Tesla. Old companies generally have at least a 8:1 ratio of cars in prod vs. brand new models. They hide that they lose money during R&D and ramp up, and only make money over the entire generation.

Tesla started with a 0:1 ratio with the Model S, and everyone could see the costs, until they got their margins up to 20-25%. Then investment into the X made it 1:1, and the costs were again visible, until the Model X also hit margins. Repeat again for the Model 3 at a 2:1 ratio and again spending went to bringing the 3 through the exact same cycle that all new models of cars go through, even while the Model S and Model X LINES are individually profitable.

This is the same cycle for every car maker and nobody talks like their upfront costs are some sign of doom. Instead everyone in the industry knows it is an investment in the future. As prod to dev ratios improve for Tesla, all this will fade away too.

Are buying the car or you will buying the company, what a joke.

Exactly. People constantly say “competition is coming for Tesla soon and they will quickly go bankrupt”. They fail to account for the fact that Tesla appears to have the lowest marginal costs in the EV industry.

Until legacy makers can compete on cost Tesla doesn’t have competition. At least another generation. Legacy makers are restricting numbers, choosing less desirable models, taking a loss, etc. Their method will work, but it is slow and will mean huge losses until they get volumes up. Tesla has a couple years of free reign, and AP/FSD will extend that if they can get that ball rolling this fall.

They also seem to ignore that ICE companies building EV’s will compete most heavily with their own ICE sales. This will actually open up the market for Tesla to compete in more sales opportunities against ICE companies as buyers start adding EV’s to their short list of cars they consider buying. Currently the majority of car buyers don’t even consider any EV for their next car purchase (sadly). More competitive EV’s from more car makers will change that.

“Renolds only had 45 minutes with the car this time, and that was with a number of passengers and un-ideal traffic situations.”

Yawn. Apology after apology again. Call me when you have raced it around Nordschleife or something against an M3 or RS4.

Most people drive their car day to day in traffic. Most aren’t going to get around the Nuerburgring. Some even prefer cars not tuned only for a track from 1927.

So that begs the question why make a car that can go 0-60 in 3.5 seconds? I really like Corvettes and said if I get one I will take it to the track periodically. Otherwise, what’s the point?

Unlike track performance, acceleration can be experienced in everyday driving.

It get’s boring really fast to do fast acceleration at traffic stops. I liked that when I was 17.
Now I prefer a well balanced car like Porsche 911 that does well around curvy roads and trackdays.

And yeah, what’s the point of “Performance” version Model 3, if it doesn’t compare to M3 or RS4 around tracks?

Never gets boring for me. I don’t go to track and if I take a winding road on the weekends, my TM3 handles it with ease.

Yes, I don’t doubt that. But before shelling out 80K or something for a Model 3 Performance, I would like to know if it “handles with ease” nicer than a BMW M3 or Audi RS4.
Doesn’t even need to be nicer than my 911….


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc is included (apart from Autopilot). Cost is $78k. About same as BMW M3, but 15% quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track.

8:18 AM – May 20, 2018″

Just ask to know if true or bullsh1t.

Had a string of BMWs in the past although not an M3. TM3 is better than your stock 3 or 5 series. Never owned an Audi or Porsche and cannot tell how Tesla compares.

To be fair, the regular TM3 has not shown itself to be clearly better than a comparable 3-series at Laguna Seca (the only track we have any data on for the TM3). It *might* be, because of variables not yet isolated, but the times we’ve seen from TM3s at Laguna Seca, don’t yet make it a clear winner.

First TM3 at Laguna Seca, stock: 1:58
TM3 with upgraded brakes/wheels/tires: 1:48.6
TM3 with same driver, but stock wheels/tires : 1:54

2007 335i (Motor Trend), stock: 1:49.0

Now, Motor Trend’s driver was an accomplished driver, so that’s worth some time, but how much? 5 seconds/lap compared to the 1:54? And how much faster is a current 3-series compared to an 11-year-old 3-series?

Not enough data, yet, to say that the TM3 is better than the 3-series, at least at Laguna Seca.

You are right, time will tell. But having a Laguna Seca experienced pro with titles under his belt means quite a bit to times. Watch the episode of Top Gear where Jackie Stewart teaches James May how to knock 20 seconds off a lap.

“Jackie Stewart claims that he can cut down anyone’s driving time around a circuit (Oulton Park) by 20 seconds….James May (a.k.a. Captain Slow) is sent to take up the challenge. Using a TVR Tuscan convertible, Sir Jackie manages to get May to cut down his original laptime by 20 seconds.”

Current 3-Series owners complain that the electric steering is numb and over-boosted. And first generation N55 twin turbo owners (like in the 07 335i) claim their motors produce much more horsepower than they are rated by BMW, and complain that the 2-chamber turbo that replaces the true twin turbos are not as strong. *shrug*

Yeah, we’ll see. Some car magazine will do a track test comparison of the 3-series/Model 3/A4/etc.

Until then, we’ll just speculate since Top Gear is an entertainment show that is well known to completely lie or make stuff up for entertainment purposes and people always say the previous version of something is better than the new version haha. And my examples have a million variables, too.

So, get your crap together, major car mags, and test the Model 3 against the 3-series!

That is fine, then wait for it to be tested on Nuerburgring/Nordschleife before you order. My hunch is the MT editor is correct in his statement regarding rattling the euro makers regardless of performance on the ‘ring. It also won’t do as well on autobahn. This will matter to some and those people won’t buy. The Model 3P will still upset the German makers.

Motor Trend will get one and test it. It will compare favorably to the M3 or RS4.

911 isn’t “balanced”. It’s way azz-heavy. Haven’t gotten bored by traffic lights, yet. Looking more for ideal street performance, where Tesla way better than some funky dual-clutch, or “PDK”, or however Mr. Nordschleife pronounces it.

Yes, modern Porsche’s rely heavily on electronic assists to keep the rotational forces from the rear engine from inducing oversteer. The old classic 911’s without driver assists are notorious for ending up the wrong way on a track.

So notorious that there are a lot of jokes about the 911 being as aerodynamic going backwards as forwards…

Gosh, how terrible that Tesla doesn’t cater to the less than 1% of drivers who drive cars on the race track, rather than the more than 99% who don’t. 🙄

Give it a rest, troll.

No not at all, although it does get really boring to not be able to pass when being stuck behind an extremely slow diesel truck on a mountain pass, instead of enjoying you day off at a great destination!

We have a 2013 TMS. When I get to drive it, I find that acceleration helps me a great deal on the road. So does the sport handling of it, along with the balanced car. OTOH, I have only taken it to 120 mph just once. And since I do not care to pay the price for getting caught, I do not do it again ( $500+, jail time and loss of license).

I have to merge in to traffic on highway 401, with the big trucks in the lane and the way people do not open up spaces to merge in – Acceleration matters a LOT if you want get into the traffic.

So you’re saying only a car that does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds will do? Or, basically any non economy car with a less that 8 second time?

The deal with the rapid acceleration in an electric car (especially in a powerful AWD one) is that it is as effortless as as it is fast. The fastest times quoted for gasoline cars involve rather brutal launches. Real world times are slower. With the EV, which has peak motor and wheel torque at 0 rpm, it’s only a matter of how quickly you can push down the accelerator. So even when a gasoline car matches the acceleration time of an EV to 60 or 70 or 80 with a drag strip launch, it will fall short in more normal operation and up to any legal (except autobahn) speeds. However, this is typically true only up to a certain speed; the peak power of the electric motor is near the lower/middle of its operating speed range and with a single speed reduction gear transmission peak power is at lower/middle of the EVs operating speed range. The BMW M3 and its kin with their 7, 8, and 9 speed transmissions and peak power near peak engine speed will start gaining on and then pass the TM3 on a long enough straightaway. But up to any legal speeds and without drag strip… Read more »

Don’t mean to be a pedant but not everyone will realise the full extent of what you’re saying.

Full throttle launches on manual and dsg ICE cars will slaughter the clutch over time. No clutch in EV. Max performance launches in ICE sound antisocial and, on public roads, make you look like a tool.

I avoid the term peak power for EVs because (using Model S as example) they can deliver max rated torque from rest to ~30/35 mph, then from there beyond legal speeds can deliver max rated power all the way. ICE simply can’t do this without a CVT which everyone hates.

Peak power suggests there’s a particular rpm at which the power plant can deliver peak power, like those inflexible ICE power units. Electric motors are much more flexible.

I did drive araound the Nürburgring (GP track, not Nordschleife).
It was a Renault Cup Clio.
Since then I have absolutely lost any interest in driving my cars (volvos/mercedes/future Model 3) on the track.
And it was in the rain, to make it perfect. 😉

Sounds like you had a bad experience

After 1000’s of track miles, the better things got, the more I realized track and street cars were separate wants. That’s what impresses me the most, when I suddenly see these “but it can’t do the ‘Ring” arguments.

They make no sense.

The Ring is the bench mark.

It shows just how good or bad a car really is.

The Ring equates to every possible road surface in the world.

But pushing a car to its limit by driving it at max speed on a rough course doesn’t necessarily show how good or bad it is. It may only show if it’s built to allow redlining the engine vs. a more conservative engineering with a speed governor.

Consider the difference between a quarter horse and a thoroughbred. The quarter horse will do better when pushed to the max over a short distance, but the thoroughbred will do better over a longer course. Does that mean either is “better”? No, it just means they are bred to maximize different traits.

Similarly, a lot of Tesla bashers are claiming the I-Pace is “better than” the Tesla Model X because the MX will overheat if driven at max speed for just a lap or so on a real racecourse. But the I-Pace is limited to a lower top speed. The MX is the quarter horse; the I-Pace is the thoroughbred. Limit the MX to the top speed of the I-Pace, and we can be sure it will last longer before overheating. Just as the average quarter horse would last longer until it was winded if held back to the top speed of the average thoroughbred.

1927?
That means that Tesla Roadster will be able to set all sorts of records there during The Centenial celabration.

And no sense racing it against BM3 or RS4. Tesla will destroy them.

Show it.

That’s what Elon the Messiah said, so show it on track.

@elonmusk
Cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc is included (apart from Autopilot). Cost is $78k. About same as BMW M3, but 15% quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track.

8:18 AM – May 20, 2018″

Your bull pucky doesn’t smell any better the second time around, dude.

yawn, you have never taken a car to das nuremcheeseburger

“Name” — How many laps of the Nordschleife/Nuerburgring do you do in your daily commute?

More than one lap? Less than one lap?

That constant lapping “Numbing Ring” in my head, must be from a bad case of Commuter Schadenfreude.

“Call me when you have raced it around Nordschleife or something against an M3 or RS4.”

I don’t know anyone who has ever raced a car on the Nordschleife/ Nürburgring. If you want a race car, then you should be looking at those rather than the Tesla Model 3. And if you do buy one, you likely won’t be using it as a daily driver, which is what the TM3 is intended to be.

Do call us when you get a life, and stop trolling EV forums.

BMW M3 Comp does 0-60 in 3.8 sec

With a tune even quicker than that.

Yep. Passes everything except a gas station.

Absolutely 😎

hey, now that was just mean! hahahaha

Or a tesla.

Was there ANOTHER glowing Tesla car review?? Someone better call Jim Chanos so he can ramp up the counter-rhetoric.

plenty of it. Look at tipranks.
https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/tsla/price-target

only a couple of sells are any good.
and Gordian johnson has been 100% associated with Chanos.

It’s always “us versus them,” isn’t it? Right out of Breitbart’s playbook.

I wouldn’t be surprised if “Breitbart” is bashing Tesla from the grave too. Where do you think Mitt Romney’s attacks against Tesla came from? From the same far right nutter playbook where Mitt was pandering to the far right base by attacking Tesla.

Are there any tombstones nearby when you look in the mirror?

Thank you for bringing balance to this site. You’ve changed my mind, thanks.

And your Tesla Hater troll comments are right out of Putin’s Russian Troll Farm playbook, Mr. Hypocrite.

I still haven’t seen any official abbreviations yet. Is it M3P, P3D, Model 3 P75D, M3P75D, etc?

Track mode is supposedly 3.3 seconds. Amazing!

I think it will become DMP. They are emphasizing Dual Motor, so that is my best guess.

Maybe it should be the Model 3.3?

I’ve been taking the liberty of calling it the M3P for short, as the other variations seem either unflattering or unwieldy. Since the Performance automatically means it has Dual Motors (DM), I left those letters off. It may not stick, but I haven’t seen one I prefer more.

Most of us on this forum, or at least many of us, have settled on “TM3” as the abbreviation for the Model 3, even though that is decidedly not official; Tesla doesn’t use that in their press releases.

I’ll wait to see what this community settles on for an abbreviation for the Model 3 Performance, but logic would suggest TM3P.

It is the Model 3. Abbreviate any options how you see fit.
Model 3 Performance
Model 3 Standard
Model 3 Long Range [RWD]
Model 3 Long Range DM
Model 3 DM
Model 3 P
Whatever, just call it the Model 3. M3 is a BMW trademark so never ever type M3 meaning Model 3. It is lazy.

The BMW M3 is why many of us use the abbreviation “TM3” for the Tesla Model 3. You are of course free to eschew abbreviations if you like, but that’s not going to stop others from using them.

Not sure why it comes with less than proper rubber.

Elon said IF it had wider rear tires it would be a 3.3 secs 0-60.

So why did it not come with the staggered wheels & tires?

At least offer it, so It can be more like ///M & AMG.

As fun as direct speed is, I’m more concerned how it handles on back roads, and how it’s battery, motors, and brakes hold out for extended acceleration/braking that occurs when enjoying a good winding road.

You must be a Tesla hater.

You must have NO NAME ‼️

Or maybe he’s just not a troll.

According to other reviews, handling is great. Well balanced, precise steering.

IMHO, the car itself based on the glowing reviews thus far will handle back and winding roads just fine. It would just be a matter of planning out your route, for example if I wanted to tackle Los Angeles Crest, it’s a total 66 miles in length, but will have to account for elevation and charging (on the West End (in Glendale) would be the nearest SC, nothing on the East End near Wrightwood).

Why would you need to concern yourself with a Supercharger stop on a trip of only 66 miles? Even a great change in elevation doesn’t involve that much loss of range!

As far as the rear motor being permanent magnet based – if I’m not mistaken, they are known for better performance due to less heating issues.

Public roads are totally different than tracks, where full throttle / full brake runs up, and down, above 100mph work heat into batteries/brakes. The only time I’ve heard of MS reducing power, in public, is when sustained European ~110 mph speeds are kept. The car would still do 110, but its HP drops from ~500, to 250-300.

You’re asking about the cooler running, lighter, M3. If Performance, it appears the first “throttle steering” Tesla has arrived. That’s fun, even if weight distribution aims more for stability. The torque-vectored AWD keeps these cars well-planted, and as a result, **agile**. You’ll remember the front-engined rolling transients, as “What was I thinking?!”

The “track mode” piqued my interest!

Yeah, I’d like to see it look a little tougher, like an BMW M3. I find that aftermarket kits usually look like aftermarket kits, no matter what they cost, and remind me of what a teenage boy might do to his Honda Civic.

Amen to that !

Looks like a Base Model 3 regardless.

They should be rattled especially when you add on a 25% tariff to all European imports, which are inferior to the Model 3 and would, with tariffs on top, make their cost prohibitive. The heyday of the German auto industry is long past, a decline which was precipitated by their refusal to give up on diesels, which eventually led to the need to develop software that cheated the emissions testing regime. This will cost the German industry billions to say nothing of the damage it has done to their brand and the wasted time and money they expended in trying to extend the life of this dying technology. In the mean time their lack of compelling ev alternatives speaks volumes about how ill prepared and behind they are in the transition to evs. I expect they will still be around but their sales should continue to fall, how drastic that fall will be depends on when and if tariffs are enacted. Looks January 2019 and even though the entire auto industry is against it, as they are with steel and aluminum duties, the administration disregards their views. It is said when that you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind.… Read more »

Motor Trend Review of Tesla Model 3P: “…a high-performance hierarchy has been rattled [by Tesla Model 3P]. The European marques perennially atop the sport sedan podium are about to have trapdoors release beneath them.”
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For the anti-Tesla Chanos gang:

Time for the anti-Tesla Chanos gang for cut-away from Jim Chanos and pull their reserve chute… not much time left… no fun to “bounce”.

“Bounce: This is bad. It means you landed at a speed which literally causes you to bounce. It implies fatality. Don’t do it. You will not owe beer after this one.” Source:
http://skydiveaddiction.com/blog/skydiving-slang-glossary/

I briefly looked through the comments, but did not see that anybody picked up on this. According to my knowledge, the correct horsepower of the M3P is 480 not 450…torque is correct.

Can´t wait to see the Nurburgring lap time of the Tesla Model 3 Performance!
If it´s better than the BMW M3 we will no longer have to listen to those that say that the Tesla’s are only good in straight line!

This is just another BS story no different from all the others. I guess to come up with a story like this to help spruce up the Tesla stocks.