Microsoft Teams With ABB On Connected Services For Charging Stations

OCT 31 2015 BY MARK KANE 11

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ABB announced a new cloud based e-mobility charging platform developed with Microsoft.

That really means just that ABB’s fast chargers around the world will be connected to Microsoft’s Azure cloud-based services.

Whatever will be needed like charging network user recognition, accepting payments or just data transfer will mostly be handled by Microsoft’s network.

“ABB and Microsoft Corp. announced today the worldwide availability of a new electric vehicle (EV) fast-charging services platform. Combining ABB’s leading EV charging stations with Microsoft’s Azure cloud-based services will ensure stability, global scalability and advanced management features for ABB customers. The collaboration will also take advantage of machine learning and predictive analytic capabilities to drive future innovations.”

“Under the new collaboration, all ABB chargers will be connected to the Microsoft Azure cloud and surrounded by value-adding services, allowing operators and manufacturers and partners to take advantage of a world-class platform.”

Pekka Tiitinen, president of ABB’s Discrete Automation and Motion Division said:

“Platform performance and stability are critical differentiators for the successful operation of a modern, data-dependent EV charging station. By partnering with Microsoft, ABB will be able to offer best-in-class operations as well as innovative advanced services — what we call the Internet of Things, Services and People. This partnership gives us the solutions, scalability and global agility to support expanding demand for EV charging infrastructure in the world’s major automotive markets, which is a key focus of our Next Level growth strategy.”

Peggy Johnson, executive vice president of business development, Microsoft commented:

“Today we live in a mobile-first, cloud-first world, and this is ever apparent in the global electric vehicle market. Our partnership with ABB aligns to one of our company ambitions to build the intelligent cloud platform, and we look forward to our technology and services becoming a differentiator for ABB’s solutions.”

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The tail of the devil…

Great!!!

Now we can get General Protection Faults or BLUE SCREENS on our charger tv screens.

Why didn’t that (ON THE) BLINK company think of that?

Is this a good idea? Already, ABB I encounter have high failure rates, adding BSOD? Or maybe they’ll become more reliable if MS forces love on abusive chargers with data.

We have had this discussion before and your view that ABB chargers were not reliable was not shared by a single other person while most considered them the most reliable. So why do you keep spreading disinformation based on a single user input when you know it’s not a general truth?

How is it disinformation if I tell it like I see it? Should I lie and say ABB are rock solid reliable even though my experience is otherwise?

Fact is, about 1 in 5 ABB encounters I’ve had were broken or slow charging (25kW while indicating 50kW), or other issues. Now that eVgo has been fixing them more proactively, it’s been getting better, but it still far from saying they are rock solid.

Ooops. eGolf doesn’t have active thermal management for its battery, so I don’t know if they’ll fast charge; my suspicion is that it’ll slow charge like Leaf, but I haven’t actually seen on charge. If so, eGolf may not notice slow charging ABB. Therefore, only car to ask about ABB is SparkEV.

Further complicating the matter is SparkEV connector doesn’t mate well with ABB handle without modification (see my blog if you have SparkEV on fix). So to gauge ABB, you have to ask SparkEV driver who’s had the mod done. Otherwise, SparkEV poll would skew ABB highly unreliable, probably 1 in 2 failures.

I used abb charger three times and got about 43kW draw on my egolf initially which is not bad. Definitely could head home after 15minutes.

I used a charge point 25 kW spot before but it was from BMW that dialed it down to only provide 10kW which was lame…. But other plug sharers with different cars reported the same for that location so not egolf specific.

I am very curious about eGolf and DCFC. Does it charge at 45kW all the way to 80%? Leaf starts out fast enough, but it starts drooping. Worse, it pauses charging at 88%!

If you have a plot of eGolf DCFC charging power over time, that will be great. I have such plot for Leaf in my blog here.

http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2015/10/love-letter-to-nissan-leaf-dcfc-users.html

If your find that eGolf charges normally (45kW to 80%), then it’ll be a mystery why Leaf would charge slower, so it’ll be of interest to everyone.

Let me clarify 1 in 5. If I always go to few ABB near my home, the reliability is excellent (100%). But I often travel far, and encounter chargers all over. I think I’ve been to all ABB in Socal along I5 to Mexico border. For that, the failure rate is high.

Since most of DCFC is used by Leaf using NCTC, they’d almost always charge near their home; why would they spend money to charge at home when DCFC is free? In that case, the few local chargers they encounter would be very reliable, representing far more share of DCFC than longer trips.

All ABB has second unit that can do at least Chademo, so even if ABB is broken, the experience would not register as painful as CCS car drivers.

Even if ABB charges slowly (25kW instead of 50kW), Leaf wouldn’t notice with their slowing charge and NCTC.

What you should ask is “abnormal” DCFC cars: charges at 45kW to 80%, they must pay to charge, only ABB and no alternative. Those are SparkEV, eGolf. Seeing how I’ve only seen one other SparkEV and one eGolf out of hundreds of Leaf/i3, true gauge of reliability should not be measured with majority opinion.

It looks like MS is have trouble finding something new to make money from. Why did MS not do that with say banks airlines trains booking systems etc. It is clear to me that MS are trying to find a way to make money now!

Once the range increases like Elon Musk said to 1000 km between charges then there will be no need for supercharging station as there is a need today. Most people will never drive 1000 km per day. If the very few do then there will be a need for a few charging station but not much.