Mercedes-Benz GLE Plug-In Hybrid Expected To Go 62 Electric Miles (WLTP)

OCT 13 2018 BY MARK KANE 43

Mercedes to move from lowest range to longest range PHEVs?

Mercedes-Benz accustomed us to rather low-range plug-in hybrids with tiny battery packs (below 10 kWh), but according to the latest news, that could change next year.

The new Mercedes-Benz GLE PHEV is expected to get up to 100 km (62 miles) of all-electric range under the WLTP test cycle in mid-2019.

Ola Källenius, Member of the Board of Management of Daimler AG. Group Research & Mercedes-Benz Cars Development said:

“We are now in the generation where we switching over from our 30 km hybrids to 50 km. The GLE will be the first car with a 100-km (62 mile) range on a plug-in hybrid in the WLTP cycle,”

Currently, the Mercedes GLE 550e is equipped with just 8.8 kWh battery and EPA rated it for 8 miles (13 km) in all-electric mode. Since mid 2016, the German manufacturer sold just 1,457 of GLE 550e in the U.S. (on average over 50 a month).

The question is how big of a battery will the new GLE will get. The 3rd generation PHEVs (EQ Power) are now getting 13.5 kWh in case of smaller (S-Class, C-Class and E-Class). If Mercedes will install a double-sized pack (27 kWh), there will be a chance for 100 km (62 miles).

Also, BMW targets up to 100 km of range in 5th generation PHEV eDrive systems in 2020.

Source: Automotive News

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43 Comments on "Mercedes-Benz GLE Plug-In Hybrid Expected To Go 62 Electric Miles (WLTP)"

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John

For the love of God, just ditch the gasoline already!

Prsnep

For the love of God, there’s nothing wrong with PHEVs. They will be an important part of the equator another 10 years.

William

“Equator”, is hopefully the equiEVelent to “Equation”, in the “important part” of your post!

Prsnep

No, I meant equator. We need more PHEVs at the equator. 😉

yo

Absolutely the distribution of PHEVs is obviously parallel discrimination…

John

I never said there’s anything wrong with PHEV. It had it’s day. It was important once, when the battery technology didn’t support BEV. We’re not there any more. In my (likely wrong) opinion, most PHEV’s are produced to hit some minimum bar of compliance.

wavelet

Absolutely right, except that will be 30 years, not 10.

Mikael

Only if you include it’s life time on the streets. There will of course not be any petrol/diesel PHEVs being sold in 30 years.

Dan F.

How can you possibly know this. Maybe try “I hope there are not….or I think it would be good if there were not…”. These assertions without any basis show a lake of thought.

Mikael

I can because I’m very intelligent, know about the subject and can analyze almost all possible scenarios and the probability of them happening.

The basis is enormous, you can keep your wishful thinking to yourself, I deal with facts, figures and probabilities.

I understand if you can’t comprehend it because that takes a different kind of skill set, but you will be able to see it with your own eyes instead once it has happened.

Rhodomel
My friends who owned Teslas and Leafs uses much more gasoline than I do from their other cars and rentals. I logged more electric miles in my Chevy Volt than they do! I do about 30,000 miles in electric and 2,400 miles in high mpg gasoline every year without using any other car nor renting other cars and using gasoline for out-of range 700+ miles day trips like my Tesla owning friends do. I don’t worry where to charge and always fully use up all electric miles per day without having to have a lot of dead weight overcapacity battery as a just-in-case buffer for more than 92% of my trips to lug around. GM lacks the Voltec for SUV’s. If GM can produce it, I wouldn’t need to buy a Tesla. I hope that the range extender could be flex-fuel for the future models and that they can take in biofuel that I can make in the farm and I can completely ditch the gasoline. My Volt goes further than this MB as it is rated based on WLTP which is more optimistic than the EPA test cycle by more than 12%. I regularly get 65-70 miles per full… Read more »
rey

Can they just get on with the program and give us what we want ? a BEV without the Gas Hose?, PLEASE?

SJC

Marketing decides, your ranting means nothing.

Dan F.

What you mean we…. Speak for yourself and use some thought.

Robert Weekley

See: “Elon Musk”; he got involved in some little company out in California a while back! I hear it’s “Bankwupt”, but if not, they can take your order, today, for a Model X 100D! It should be ready for you, fairly soon, like, by Christmas!
😱😌😂

Benz

The norm will be to have bigger battery packs in PHEV’s as well.

That is a step in the right direction.

That’s good.

TM3x2 Chris

I agree, bigger batteries = more electric miles.
Eventually, i’d Like to see BEVs only from MB.

Mint

About freakin time! Most PHEVs have had pathetically small batteries, aside from the Volt.

This is well beyond natural scaling with time. The long range Leaf will have less than triple range after 8 years. This GLE plug-in update will get 4-6x electric range in less than 5 years.

This is possible because they put little effort in the current gen PHEV.

ekutter

so 9 kwh gets 8 miles and 27kwh is supposed to get 62 miles? Is there some new exponential math I haven’t been made aware of? Going from less than 1 mile / kwh to over 2?

William

It’s the “New Maths”, that the ‘Dial-a-More’ Folks are attempting to working with!

Prsnep

Sometimes people quite usable kwh and sometimes the total. That can explain part of the discrepancy.

Prsnep

Sometimes people *quote…

Nono13

8.8 kWh and 13.5 kWh are the total size of the batteries and not the usable one.

Robert Weekley

As suggested, below: Similar Battery kWh buffer, but much smaller SOC%, on the larger battery, than on the smaller one, it seems!

So, 8.8 – 1.8 buffer, is 20.45%;
27 – 1.8 buffer, is just 6.67%!
(For Example)

That suggests 93.33% usable vs just 79.55% usable, per my sample (Guessed?!) Numbers!

Leo B

I recently browsed over the specs of the GLC F-cell. That one is also equiped with a 13.5 kWh chargeable battery. The press release stated that 9.3 kWh of it is usable.

mmlimb

It is very expensive to buy and carry around twice the tech you actually need. Imo hybrids are likely to be the biggest losers in terms of resale value soon.

trackdaze

Phevs need to drop the million gear transmissions and let electric motors do their thing.

Similarly the ICE motor can be lightweighted and decontented. I would still like to see the ICE coupled into the drive for higher speeds where they can complement electric motors linear acceleration best.

Doggydogworld

Most PHEVs use a standard planetary gear. Very simple and robust.

David H

It’s even more expensive to carry around 70 additional kWhs you need only once a year.
I think, the gradual move towards a “range extender” like PHEV is a good descision. For a lot of people in germany, 100 km will easily get you over your day. And when you have such a big battery and an accompanying powerful electric engine, you can cheap out on the gasoline part. You don’t need a V6 anymore or 2 turbochargers or whatever.

Benz

The main point is to have people exchange their ICE for a PHEV or a BEV.

Some will directly choose a BEV. Others will first choose a PHEV, because they think that they cannot go far without an ICE. Until they realize that a BEV actually really is the better choise. They just need to do it in two steps. So be it.

noleaf4me

The Autobahn is why they still need ICE in Germany.

Milfan

Very good MB. Please note the timeline “mid-2019”, lets see whether they launch as promised or keep delaying it.
I think this 100 km means its meant for Chinese market.
Will they launch it Worldwide ?

trackdaze

With batteries still on the heavy side I’d much rather see 50km phevs.

amt

BIG Auto Is Doing Electric Cars All Wrong … So Sad ,,,

noleaf4me

And some will be out of business in 10 years as a result…

Joe

Funny comments – we’ll have PHEV’s for a long time. Why? Because nothing in the battery world is as convenient as ICE for long distance travel: fast-charging takes exponentially longer, and it’s also harmful for the battery. Until that changes, PHEV’s give the best of both worlds (it’s true most people don’t go on long-distance travels, but it’s like an airbag – it’s good to have that capability just in case).

Robert Weekley

Maybe this product will put some pressure on Other OEM’s, from GM, to Ford, to FCA, to Toyota, to Nissan, to BMW, to Porsche, etc., to make better EV Ranges in their PHEV/EREV’s!

Leo B
With the stricter CO2-emission regulations in Europe, I guess we will see a lot more PHEV’s appearing. I assume they will be like the Mercedes PHEV’s, parallel hybrids, where the ICE is still the main engine and there’s some all-electric capability at much reduced power. I understand this is a rather easy or cost-effective way for manufacturers to retrofit their ICE cars, but much of the enviromental gains are dependend on users to actually plug in the cars. Over here in the Netherlands there used to be tax-exemption for PHEV’s for company cars and there was a number of users that never charged their cars. This because their fuel expenses were covered by the employer, but not their electicity expenses. Now we Dutch may be a little on the cheap side, but relying on the end user for actual environmental benefits is a bit of a gamble. I would much rather see manufacturers changing their PHEV’s to a serial or power-split layout (like Volt or Prius), where the motor is the dominant power supply and the ICE works only/mostly as range-extender. The ICE can be reduced in size that way and even when the user never charges the car, there… Read more »
Rick Kop

This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. Bring it on already, and the sooner the better. This is what GM and Cadillac should have done with the XT4.

antrik

I’m guessing they are going for 100 km here rather than 50 like with the smaller cars, because for such a large vehicle, 50 wouldn’t be enough to get below the 50 g/km threshold for incentives?…

CU

Seems like MB EQ SUV is forgotten here already….
It will be up to the customers to choose: EV or PHEV!

CU

By the way, here is a much more professional description:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181013-mbenzeqpower.html