Mazda CEO: First Plug-In Coming To U.S. In 2020

FEB 4 2018 BY MARK KANE 42

Mazda’s first plug-in model could enter market around 2020 according to the Masahiro Moro, president and CEO of Mazda North American Operations (MNAO).

Toyota e-Palette Concept

It’s not yet known whether it will be all-electric model or electrified, but Masahiro Moro hints at a possible comeback of the rotary engine in the form of a range-extender. The last rotary engine-powered model in the U.S. was RX-8 sports car in 2012.

Well, (the) rotary engine is our heart-line. I think a rotary engine could be a generator in the near-term to contribute to electrification.”

The advantage of rotary engine is its compact size, but fuel economy and especially emissions have been its downside.

The recently unveiled Toyota e-Palette Concept is another potential vehicle that could receive the REx from Mazda.

“Toyota announced the e-Palette. Mazda is a technical partner. That technical (partnership) means they need our rotary range-extender technology.”

Source: WardsAuto

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John Doe
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John Doe

Most of that Mazda looks stunning.

Tech01x
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Tech01x

Not a real car.

John Doe
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John Doe

Yeah. . That’s the problem when somebody have to make a car cheaper, more practical and easier to produce.
End up with a boring and average car.

Kevin
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Kevin

Well it is the Vision concept which is arguably physically real so..

Dav8or
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Dav8or

Agreed. Dial it back about 5-10% and you have a product winner! Love it.

Benz
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Benz

That Mazda looks great.

CarGuy
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CarGuy

Their normal engines work better than their rotary engines. Rotary engines also use a lot of oil.

At least they are finally getting in the EV game.

MikeG
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MikeG

At a fixed rpm, some of the rotary engine’s disadvantages go away. Making a rotary work well over a large rpm range is a challenge.

Gasbag
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Gasbag

If their secret sauce is a rotary range extender why bother with a saloon car? Why not target the full size SUVs or a real CUV or trucks or even a van? On a larger platform they could easily fit in enough battery to offer their rotary generator (RG) with minimal battery and a couple bays to expand the AER range to two different levels thus future proofing the vehicle.

AP
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AP

For a CarGuy, you don’t much about rotaries. They are designed to “burn” oil.

Dan
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Dan

The fact that they are designed to burn oil doesn’t mean that it’s not a disadvantage. That’s what Carguy is pointing out.

TeslaPlease
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TeslaPlease

Why the long? Are they putting an 8 cy nlibe?

Ambulator
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Ambulator

Just what I’ve always wanted – a larger hood and a smaller passenger compartment. (Not)

JoeInTheUK
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JoeInTheUK

Yep, what on earth is under that massive hood if its a pure EV?

Leeper
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Leeper

Mobile hot tub!!! Think of the possibilities.

Kdawg
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Kdawg

Also not a fan if a giant hood that looks like you’re compensating for something.

G2
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G2

Massive FRUNK Dude!

floydboy
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floydboy

Yeah, you can carry 2 spares in that frunk!

John
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John

Hey, 2-3 years from now? Sweet, where have I heard that before?

Mike
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Mike

Tesla?

John
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John

Sort of. Tesla has 3 vehicles in production now, unlike all the other manufacturers who are perpetually 3-5 years out. Difference is Tesla is biting off too much right now, compared to the others who don’t bite off anything (but talk a big game).

Alaa
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Alaa

Every one else is saying the same thing. Where will they get the batteries from in 2020 or beyond?

God/Bacardi
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God/Bacardi

What Mazda’s CEO is claiming is that the rotatory makes a good generator…I wonder how it is compared to the Prime’s 55mpg motor?

CarGuy
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CarGuy

I wonder if it will still burn oil.

earl colby pottinger
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earl colby pottinger

That I can see, one speed only, simple or no gearing to the generator, simple design should make designing to exactly the right size needed by the generator.

Make this hybrid with a big battery for real power and I could see this working out.

Vexar
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Vexar

I don’t buy it. Mazda only wants to make combustion technology. Maybe they will brand someone else’s EV, but I doubt it.

Mike
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Mike

Falling behind then poorly trying to copy what the competition used to do. The Volt is a legendary car but companies like GM are moving forward while Mazda eats dust.

William
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William

My what a big nose you have, I mean crumple zone!

Zoom Zoom wins the EV horse race by a nose, sN0T!

jim stack
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jim stack

Finally. I though they didn’t know how to plug anything in. Maybe they will use Super Capacitors like their i-ELoop Mazada 6 was said to have. I’ve never seen one but it sounded good.
http://www.mazda.com/en/innovation/technology/env/i-eloop/

Chris
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Chris

Working with Dyson yet?

Kdawg
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Kdawg

So … Chademo or CCS?

EVShopper
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EVShopper

All electric MX-5, please.

Warren Hurd
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Warren Hurd

Pretty please, with a cherry on top.

Dan
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Dan

Who needsa rotary engine when the electric motor is in perfect rotary motion already? Rotary engie is simply nt efficient at all. Dumb Mazda marketing strategist!

Roy_H
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Roy_H

The hardest part of the rotary engine is to provide high torque over a large rpm range. Using the rotary engine just to drive a generator allows it to be tuned to run optimally at a single rpm. This could then result in much better economy.

G2
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G2

Agree.
Perhaps these are the death throes of a once competent company?

Mike
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Mike

Hardly, they make a profit. They are expanding sales and have a good relationship with Toyota.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney
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ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Well, I guess the weirdly long hood is a change from the typical all-body-no-window chunky concept look.

They’ll need something if they don’t want to pay too much for credits. I hope they try an EREV with rotary extender, just to see how well they take advantage of the compact size.

Bill Howland
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Bill Howland

Somedays I miss my Roadster – especially since the summer time is Convertible time around here. Hopefully they make a Miata EV sooner rather than later.

Warren Hurd
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Warren Hurd

Hopefully someone makes an electric Miata roadster sometime soon.

leafowner
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leafowner

But will Mazda still be around?!?

Jason
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Jason

So how much lead time do manufacturers usually have for a new model? 18-24 months? If that is about right then either Mazda is developing this right now (and should be able to state that exactly) or they aren’t (so 2020 is most likely a pipe dream).
If they are actually developing it then the article should read “Mazda to release xx in 2020”, not using words like might. They should be able to tell us what product line or is targeted for or if it is a new product line.
As far as I’m concerned, if the manufacturer can’t tell you those basic things then it’s vapourware at the moment.