Lucid Motors Debuts The “Air”: 0-60 mph in 2.5 Seconds, 400 Mile Range – $100,000+

DEC 14 2016 BY JAY COLE 84

As promised Lucid Motors took the wraps off its first production-intent all-electric vehicle – the Lucid Air.

Lucid Air

Lucid Air

The company expects a well-equipped, $100,000+ Air to be in production in 2018 (from its announced ~$700 million factory in Arizona), and of course one can reserve a copy today.

And as expected, the standard car comes with a 100 kWh battery, with a 130 kWh option battery that has a ~400 mile range. Batteries are supplied by Samsung SDI.

A less expensive, base model around $65,000 will follow (we assume with the 100 kWh battery).

Luicid’s CTO Peter Rawlinson says the Air can be both a luxury and sports car.  With a couple electric motors combining for the 1,000+ horsepower, the Air will achieve 0 to 60 mph in about 2.5 seconds.

Nearly ten years of battery pack development have led to best-in-class energy density. Our battery is capable of 1,000 horsepower and enabling up to 400 miles of range. Additionally, a unique battery chemistry provides breakthrough tolerance to repeated fast-charging.”

Lucid Air Interior

Lucid Air Interior

The most obvious competitor in the space is the Model S, and like Tesla, Lucid says its care as “autonomous-ready” with both short and long range radar, cameras and Lidar.  Also, like Tesla the car will initially come with partial autonomy with more functionality added over time with over-the-air updates.

Standard rear seating

Standard rear seating

Specific to its Chinese roots, Lucid also offers an optional “executive” rear seat option.

“Packaging perfection allows us to introduce unprecedented comfort via rear executive seats with up to 55 degrees of recline. This luxury option offers a first-class aircraft seating experience in the back of your car.”

Executive-fabulous rear seating

Executive-fabulous rear seating

The interior features a large center touch console and a huge panoramic roof…and a lot of speakers.

“Without the masking sound of a gasoline engine, environmental noise detracts further from your luxury experience. The 29 speaker audio system with active noise cancellation and enhanced cabin isolation creates a uniquely tuned acoustic experience inside your vehicle.”

Lucid Air Panoramic Roof

Lucid Air Panoramic Roof

Lucid Air Clear Rooftop

Lucid Air Clear Rooftop

We have to note that Lucid’s charging set-up (pictured below) appears very similar to Tesla’s home/destination solutions. No specs on DC fast charging or home/L2 charging where offered, other than to say the batteries can take all you can throw at them.

“Time is precious, so when charging on the go, you can get back on the road quickly. While many batteries age prematurely if fast-charged regularly, you can fast charge a Lucid battery at will without worries.”

Lucid Air charging

Lucid Air charging

A $25,500 deposit gets you one of the first 255 copies:

“Reserve 1 of 255 special edition cars first off the production line. Launch edition will be well optioned and include distinguishing features. Pricing and additional options to be finalized closer to start of production.”

While $2,500 gets you in the line for a “standard” copy:

“Standard production models will be produced after the 255 launch edition cars are complete. Options and pricing to be finalized closer to start of production.”

"Pre-order" today?

“Pre-order” today?

Bonus video (below): Lucid was also giving out “prototype drives” of the upcoming Air to media in attendance (in this case SlashGear)

A look at the Lucid Motors Air's drivetrain

A look at the Lucid Motors Air’s drivetrain

Lucid Motors Air

Lucid Motors Air

Another look in the back

Another look in the back

Lucid Air Driving

Lucid Air Driving

Lucid Motors Air

Lucid Motors Air

Derek Jenkins, Lucid VP of design at launch party

Derek Jenkins, Lucid VP of design at launch party

Lucid Air features a large center touch screen

Lucid Air features a large center touch screen

Another look at executive rear seating

Another look at executive rear seating

Pre-reveal Lucid Air

Pre-reveal Lucid Air

 

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84 Comments on "Lucid Motors Debuts The “Air”: 0-60 mph in 2.5 Seconds, 400 Mile Range – $100,000+"

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Mama Mia, the car looks nice and luxurious.

As we all know, it’s a long, long walk from “Pre-reveal Lucid Air” to delivery, charging networks, service centers and customer satisfaction. I wish them luck. Competition is a good thing.

What about charging?

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I only care about the charging, you folks seem to forget if there are no roads your car is useless, if I’m going to switch from gas to electric im going to need a decent charging network, I don’t give a **** about 400 mile if I can’t charge where ever I am and at a decent speed, that would annoy me, knowin

Does this count?

Doesn’t work in superchargers as access is controlled by software.

Looks Nice & Luxurious , it’s an Unknown with no track record & no place to Charge..It will take some time to prove themselves . I’m hopeful that they will succeed & build a great Car..Competition will bring out the best in everyone..

What do you keep spouting these lies?? No place to charge??? So what is every EV that is not a Tesla driving around on happy thoughts and unicorn farts??

A lot of non Tesla EVs seem to do just fine on their own without a need for the supposedly always full SCs…

No cross country charging solution == lame.

It’s the biggest hinderence to any would be Tesla competitor.

Hopefully they will make a deal for access to Tesla’s SC network, and we’ll finally get some real options in the long range EV space.

I don’t need to drive cross country so it is not lame. What is lame is being forced to pay for something, SC, in the price of the car that I don’t need.

Maybe it is lame for you but not everything is the same for everybody. Such shortsightedness…

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400 miles range…
How many times do you drive more than 400 miles in one day?
You will only very rarely need any kind of fast charging, basically only when you can’t find destination charging of any type on a multi day journey or if your some kind of masochist who forces yourself and your family to drive until you all drop from exhaustion every day of your holiday.

Looks like a worthy competitor with the Model S; though it is more expensive, with more (claimed) range. Nearly an all glass roof – that is not unlike the Model 3.

First impression of the this car is it looks like a new Saab 9000.

+1. I am impressed by the specs and appearance of this car. If they can deliver what they are promising, then they have a vehicle that would compete against a Tesla Model S.

They do appear to be aimed at where Tesla is going rather than where they are now.

Any claims that batteries aren’t yet cost competitive should be fully laid to rest though. EVs own the top of the market. The current players are walking dead when start ups can easily crush their current offerings.

It looks like the Kia Optima.

Expect this company to be bought by a major automaker when they fail to turn a profit. I can see Sergio Marchionne salivating at the thought.

Makes sense. Maybe that’s their actual business plan.

Take the money and Run ..Rite 0n! Go Ahead Buy Us 0ut!

Having said that, it’s pretty nice.

I think it’s ugly, seats same number of people as a Volt. The wrap around light thing just isn’t attractive. Good luck to them, but really need a charging network for a 400-mile car, otherwise it’s just a town car you can drive all day long.

My bad. I now see it’s a four-seat option for crooked Chinese bureaucrats.

I’m thinking it will work for non-crooked Chinese bureaucrats as well. But you’re right, it’s definitely geared toward the Chinese market.

In 2018 there should be at least the start of 100+ kW CCS charging networks in US, Europe.

Building their own network in 2018 would be insane.

Who’s going to order this? Aren’t Teslas already available in all the markets that this would appeal to? What does it offer that doesn’t already exist as a “known quantity” with Tesla? I just can’t fathom why anyone would reserve one.

Lots of people are into posh interior accoutrements, so that alone will attract many.

“Who’s going to order this?”
People who prefers this look over Tesla’s.

Right. I don’t care how good the car is or who makes it; there will always be some who prefer something else.

That said, there are a lot of newly announced auto development projects and startups aiming that that same exact market segment, so I suspect the sales will be rather low in number even if they do manage to get the car into production.

I KNOW it’s tough for you to believe-being part of the cult-, but many people just don’t want a Tesla. Other well-apportioned EVs are welcome.

The posts from the cult of those who accuse all Tesla fans of being cultists… are getting pretty tiresome and repetitive. How about nudging the needle, hmmmm?

Wow, not bad at all! I am impressed! I think we finally have a worthy Tesla competitor, and in the same price bracket!

If this becomes reality it must certainly also make other car manufacturers sit up and listen. Now the race is on for real! If two startups can produce top of the line high performance vehicles like this it makes the established car manufacturers look like fools! BMW, Mercedes, VW, Ford, where are your competing offers? It’s time to step up your game now!

I called everything yesterday, except the dual motors. Although, they still haven’t specified, exactly, the type of lighting.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Detroit better get in the game or Silicon Valley is going to steal your industry.

Jay . . . can you add a “Go to Top of Page” button on the bottom. That would help now that you get length discussions

Look at that charge port connector… Looks non-standard to me ?

Maybe that is a Chinese standard, but if it is non standard, then they made a mistake, IMO. Tesla aside, if you are not using J1772 L1/L2 as a standard, then you limit a lot of opportunities. If you use CCS or Chademo, then you have a chance at SC type charging (CCS I think is the better choice for the future).
But if you make another proprietary system, that sounds like a big mistake to me.

Where are all the people standing in line to get their Lucid Air pre-orders placed? I want to be in the mix of that HSB crowd. I wonder if Tesla will buy one, using a proxy buyer. Then tear it down, and see what kind of competition, the Lucid Air, may bring, if any. Tesla may be facing some Lucrid Air down the road, if they can’t beat this Vapor Ware in some mythical race.

Kinda like it. It’s got some odd, busy-bits here and there, but overall– it’s a very nice looking Tesla Clone. Very nice. 🙂

Lets see how well they do…

The only real negative to me, is that the home charging connector looks Proprietary, and that makes me sad. Sad!

Good catch. That is only a rendering so could change.

I think there is another charging standard in China that is not often talked about here. Might be that.

It does not look like the big round GB/T China standard connector.

GSP

This is my one worry. I love that it plugs-in at the nose, but there is not space up there for any DC outlet minus the SC network. Again, renderings, but I hope they don’t bring another standard to market.

Nice prototype. It looks they have serious intention to provide at least some luxury features, not just luxury price tag.

Nice, and as usual, unnecessary dig.

The back seats look great, luxury should provide comfort.

This reminds me of the long wheel base (LWB) Model S that has repeatedly been rumored to be coming from Tesla for a couple of years now:

http://gas2.org/2014/06/10/longer-wheelbase-tesla-model-s-coming-later-year/

There is obviously a market for something with a backseat like this. Even Tesla insiders confirm that. Especially for the Chinese market. These aren’t the car buyers who need 60/40 split fold rear seats to fit their DIY supplies from the Home Depot.

This will replace some of the biggest gas guzzler ICE vehicles on the road, making it more than worthy of green cred. It will save more gas by replacing a big Benz than a Toyota Prime will save by replacing a Prius.

But Lucid as a company is seemingly blindly walking straight into the same criticisms that have been said about Tesla ever since they launched the Model S. Just like Tesla really needs the more affordable Model 3 to meet criticisms that their EV’s are only for the rich, Lucid will need to quickly follow this car up with something around half these prices in this story. Otherwise they risk getting marginalized.

Hmmm, not every small auto maker is trying to become a mid-sized or larger auto maker. Do we know that Lucid wants to grow in size to rival Tesla? That’s a pretty risky business strategy; just look at how close Tesla has come to failing.

Perhaps they want to be like Morgan: Establish a good rep in a small, exclusive automotive market niche, and hang onto that.

Why do I keep getting the Dodge Charger vibe from looking at it?

Amazing, but I doubt this badass car will be 100K, it looks way more than that. Finally Tesla which I love will hire a good designer.

Yes, I suspect that if this car is even close to what’s advertised here, then it’s gonna be closer to $200k than $100k.

Naaahh, … 100K, I say!

Is this a sedan or hatch. If it’s a sedan, then it can never match with Model-S which is a 7-Seater. Hope they price it well within the range to sell.

Tesla is getting crushed! By the BYD K11, it can take 55 sitting passengers.

Because seating is all that sells vehicles. 😉

Cool I can put my two spoiled brats in the back.

0 to school in 2.5 minutes.

The side view of the rear end is ghastly. The panel gap reminds one inevitably of the Bangle Butt, only worse.

Interesting….

A red flag for me is the non-standard home charger, unlike either NA or European Norms; Just an ego trip to design a new connector, unless this whole thing was photoshopped and I’m just looking at pixels.

If they offer Caffeteria Pricing, I’d like the 130 kwh (400 mile) battery, but make mine 2 wheel drive with maybe 150 hp or so. I don’t need 0-60 mph in a second.

So since I’m taking a dinky motor along with a very simple 2 wheel drive system , sell it to me for $65,000.

I prefer RWD as well. I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if they offer an option where you can bias more power to front or rear, maybe even cut out the front motor all together if you want to. If they can offer 1000hp for 100 000$, I’m pretty sure they can give us (a lot) more than 150 hp for 65000$. My guess is they’ll eventualy go the Tesla way and make an 80% scale little brother, model III like car similar to this one. Don’t worry about the charge port. They will have to keep it standard, no choice. I think even Tesla will go CCS…

If you want good torque at low speeds and Vmax worthy of a sporty sedan you either need more power or a 2-speed gearbox.

Unlike gas cars, AWD in electric cars can utilize two different fixed gear ratios. They can use one ratio in the front, and a different ratio in the rear.

This effectively gives the car the equivalent of a 2-speed transmission, without actually having to shift gears. One electric motor is always in the broad power band needed for fast acceleration.

It’s funny how the Tesla fanboys are complaining about a non-standard charge port…

Just to clarify for you: The reason they’re complaining about the non-standard charger port is because, unless it has an adapter for L2/CHAdeMO/SAE DC, you literally won’t be able to charge anywhere but at home.

That’s like buying a BMW i3 here in Texas. There are no DC fast chargers that are compatible with the i3 in Texas (according to Plugshare).

It is a true issue, not a “fanboi” issue.

It looks very nice indeed, but all those images are pretty obviously just computer renders, which means at the moment this car exists only as vaporware, not as an actual prototype.

Let’s hope they can deliver all that’s promised here. A 130 kWh battery pack and 0-60 in ~2.5 seconds are impressive figures, but at the moment they are just early estimates, and probably as optimistic as all early estimates given in press releases are.

Not quite :

http://youtu.be/_eWhCn9BQI0

Looks very much like a working prototype to me…

I think they’ll make it work.

Fred said:

http://youtu.be/_eWhCn9BQI0

“Looks very much like a working prototype to me…”

Hmmm… no part of what’s seen in that video appears to match the interior shown in the renders in this article.

Is that car in the video properly described as a prototype, or is it a test mule modified from a different car?

But either way, thanks for the link. Good to know this company does have one or more actual EVs that one can actually drive, unlike a certain other company named after Michael Faraday did until very recently.

I wish them the best of luck.
More options for consumers can only be a good thing.

I didn’t see anything that looked like a real piece of metal & composites sculpted into a thing of beauty. It all looked like very nice computer renderings.

I wish them well, more EV’s on the market is a good thing, even if they are geared toward people who are happy to spend far more on a vehicle than I am.

Prototype is up and running!

http://youtu.be/_eWhCn9BQI0

Voila

Yet another EV for the rich. Way to save the planet. I’m going back to sleep – zzzzzzzz.

What a ridiculous line of reasoning. Even if premium cars were the only ones to ever go electric everybody with kids and lungs still has plenty of reasons to be happy. And, in 2016, you have to live as hermit to not know new tech nearly always starts out at the top of the market. That the incumbent automakers are starting on the bottom should be a dead giveaway they aren’t trying.

Please don’t bother waking up- you have NOTHING to contribute.

2018 will be a fun year for EVs

But does it have CUP HOLDERS?
Easter eggs?

The first TRUE competitor to Tesla.

Is this a production intent or a concept?

“As promised Lucid Motors took the wraps off its first production-intent all-electric” .

Wouldn’t it be good if some people bothered to actually READ the article? Nah, too much to hope for!

I don’t know where the microphone was for the test drive, but it rather sounded like those Corvair EV’s from the 60’s where the inverters made so much whine and racket it would drive you out of the car.

Now all we need is a massive deployment of LFTR generators for unlimited, cheap, safe power for the millions of new EV’s that are imminent!!