Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle & Portland Seek Record-Breaking Order Of 24,000 EVs

JAN 13 2017 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 26

The Nissan LEAF is one of a handful of electric vehicles used in government fleets

The Nissan LEAF is one of a handful of electric vehicles used in government fleets

Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and Portland are combining efforts and making monumental strides to strategically assist in the accelerated adoption of electric vehicles. The cities are initially requesting 24,000 EVs as soon as possible, along with enlisting multiple cities to join the effort to push numbers up to 100,000.

Perhaps the Chevrolet Bolt will become a prime candidate for the initiative

Perhaps the Chevrolet Bolt will become a prime candidate for the initiative

It all started with a request for information sent to multiple automakers asking if and when they can comply with the initial request for vehicles, and what the vehicles will cost. The primary goals are to improve EV pricing and to help motivate expansion of electric technology to larger vehicles. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti shared:

“Every community has the power to fight climate change, and we do not need to wait for any one person or government to show us the way. By acting together as cities, we can set an example for our neighbors, spur clean energy innovation, clean our air, and accelerate the inevitable transition to a low-carbon, opportunity-rich future for everyone.”

Garcetti and the other mayors involved are part of a joint committee known as, Mayors National Climate Action Agenda (MNCAA), organized by Garcetti. The group sent a letter to president-elect Trump requesting for him to support U.S. compliance with commitments made in Paris at the U.N. Climate Change Summit. More importantly, 51 cities are now part of the MNCAA and all of them have been invited to join in on the request for information and the eventual mass purchase of EVs. Automakers have been asked to respond to the group’s requests by March 1st.

Garcetti’s chief sustainability officer, Matt Petersen, said:

“The hope is that by next month there could be additional cities in the request that hopefully brings the demand for EVs to 50,000 or perhaps even 100,000.”

This is not surprising, coming out of Los Angeles. The city has the nation’s most accelerated EV requirements. Half of new sedan purchases in the city must be electric-only vehicles. The city is also moving to electrified work trucks, Nissan LEAFs for public services, and BMW i3’s for the police department. Added to this, LA continues to implement and update charging infrastructure.

Source: E&E News

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26 Comments on "Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle & Portland Seek Record-Breaking Order Of 24,000 EVs"

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Huhu
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Huhu

I would think these big towns’ police departments need as least a couple Tesla S P100Ds and a few 75Ds, the rest can be BOLTs or newer LEAFs.

realistic
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realistic

You couldn’t possibly justify the cost of Tesla Model S for LE vehicles, even compared to the SUV-based alternatives.

super390
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super390

Last year’s Los Angeles Sheriff’s Dept. tests:

“In the LASD’s 0-60 miles-per-hour acceleration test, the all-wheel drive Interceptor Sedan with the 3.5-liter V6 EcoBoost sprinted there in 5.8 seconds, compared to 6.6 seconds for the rear-drive 5.7-liter V8 Dodge Charger and 6.7 seconds for the 6.0-liter V8 Chevrolet Caprice.”

The 1st car is a Ford.
Surprisingly these are considered fast enough for interceptors today. So even the base Tesla Model III should be in the ballpark on acceleration, though perhaps lacking in other areas for state highway patrols.

It’s hard to nail down the prices on these vehicles; on one hand they get great base prices via fleet purchasing, on the other hand they then get a lot tacked on to their price for “special police equipment”.

unlucky
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unlucky

Most departments have a no-chase policy anyway.

And unless you are engaging on on-ramp drag races you don’t want a Tesla for chasing cars because the Tesla reduces its performance very quickly to keep from overheating.

It would be near impossible to justify a Tesla S/X as a cruiser. We’ll have to see about the Model 3 when it we know more.

realistic
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The minimal rear-seat dimensions for a LE cruiser are Malibu, which measures larger than the Model S in every category but hip room. While we don’t know what the rear seat and trunk/hatch configuration of the M3 will really be, it’s unlikely to be big enough.

And price: here is a typical order form for a Chevy Tahoe LE vehicle

http://www.nwmc-cog.org/SPC-Documents/SPC_2017_Chevrolet_Tahoe-OrderForm_Contract-147.aspx

Even fully loaed with 4wd and pretty much every option it’s a ~$43k car before some of the copgear goes in. (I know because I have been part of the purchase decisions for my county.) The standard sedan-based cruisers are less. A Model S 75 can’t be sold for this stripped; the big-boy P/D versions wouldn’t even be in the game.

DangerHV
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DangerHV

This is a stunning development! No one can deny the acceleration of EV’s will be much faster than previously forecast.

realistic
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realistic

“No one can deny the acceleration of EV’s will be much faster than previously forecast.”

I’m guessing sarcasm? You don’t remember 2011: Pres. Obama and EPA and DoE secy’s confident in 1 Million ECs by the end of 2015?

Estimates of this adoption rate are consistently overoptimistic.

Kdawg
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Kdawg

Where’s the $ coming from? Who are the cars going to?

Trollnonymous
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Trollnonymous

IMHO, most likely some sort of EV tax.
😮

Pinewold
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Pinewold

Will probably save money in the long run though maintenance and “fuel” costs

Yogurt
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Yogurt

Most likely the same tax payer funds which have always purchased ICE machines…
To all of the current city employes who currently drive ICE machines during their city duties…
These are four large cities and 24k cars is only part of their fleet…

Someone out there
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Someone out there

Why don’t they urge utilities to get together and create a nation-wide charging network? That would do a lot for EV adoption. Lets get that stumbling block out of the way!

Nix
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Nix

It is about time! Gov’t fleet sales of EV’s have been well, well below ICE fleet rates, and have frankly been pitiful. Take a look at the tiny number of vehicles powered by electricity here:

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/data/10354

This adoption rate falls well behind the actual availability of electric powered vehicles in the market:

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/data/10303

Trollnonymous
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Trollnonymous

I sure as hell hope they do the same thing as at Caltech in Pasadena California using adaptive charging stations…..

https://store.openevse.com/blogs/news/112749572-charging-done-right-54-80a-adaptive-charging-stations-at-caltech

Motarra
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Startling how disconnected our inbound federal gov is from our local city leaders.

Proud Libertarian
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Proud Libertarian

This is a good thing. Local is always better.

Sean Wagner
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Sean Wagner

Within a reasonable time frame, only one vehicle promises to be both reasonably affordable and entirely propelled by systems made in the USA.

HAuer
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HAuer

Does the RFI say anything about “Made in America”?

speculawyer
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speculawyer

West Coast is Best Coast.

Nix
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Nix

….unless you are talkin’ hardcore gangsta rap!

DNAinaGoodWay
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DNAinaGoodWay

Would these sales count towards the end of the federal tax credit?

Fabian
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Fabian

Well it’s about freaking time this started happening en mass.

Bob
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Bob

The City of Copenhagen, Denmark have just reached 85% EV for sedans (not including vans, garbage trucks etc.) 236 out of 301 vehicles.
http://www.kk.dk/nyheder/koebenhavn-naar-sit-maal-om-85-pct-elbiler

guyinacar
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guyinacar

Point of Information: these are electric *VEHICLES* being RFI’d, not just electric CARS. Anyone who thinks it’s all about police “pursuit vehicles” isn’t seeing the larger picture. The RFI (Los Angeles BAVN #29142) explicitly says “light- through heavy-duty vehicles.” So that’s probably city bus fleets, Segway replacements, e-bikes, “airporters,” meter maids’ vehicles, municipal E-150s to tow lawn mowers, tree-maintenance arial bucket trucks, 4-door SUVs for the librarians and parks commission type people, special needs school buses, ambulances, etc., etc. And yes, some police cars. A police-duty BMW 530e would be an obvious PHEV choice there, since it’s already been the “authority vehicle” platform in Europe for several decades, and isn’t much of a science experiment. And, sure, probably some Teslas as pursuit vehicles.

Nix
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Nix

+1

Nicholas
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Nicholas

Please join me in asking your mayor to join this group buy as well!