Los Angeles Metro Authority To Buy 95 Electric Buses From BYD, New Flyer

3 months ago by Mark Kane 19

One of Los Angeles Metro’s first Battery Electric Transit Buses built by Southern California Electric Vehicle manufacturer BYD Motors in 2015

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority in Los Angeles has placed two orders, for a total of 95 electric buses, in the first phase of switching its fleet to zero emissions by 2030.

Los Angeles Metro

Today, Los Angeles Metro has the second largest bus fleet in the country – about 2,200 vehicles, which means that these new EVs will be still under 5% of total fleet.

As there is no more than 100 battery-electric buses operating in California today, the new order will double the state EV bus fleet.

Total cost of the projects in the two Los Angeles County busways is said to be $138 million (including all the supportinginfrastrucutre).

The first order is for 60 40-foot BYD electric buses by 2021, while the second is for 35 60-foot articulated New Flyer electric buses by 2020.

“To address technology questions and concerns about how far the vehicles can travel, Metro’s first electric buses will only run along the Orange Line busway in the San Fernando Valley and in the 29-mile Silver Line carpool lane along the Harbor and San Bernardino freeways. Both routes will have chargers where buses can stop if their batteries run low.”

Also interesting, is that the board unanimously approved a $66-million budget to electrify the Silver Line with BYD. On the other hand, the $72 million project for replacing the Orange Line’s buses with the New Flyer wasn’t unanimous, but ultimately approved 7:3, as three board members would have preferred the contract go to local manufacturer BYD.

“The New Flyer contract, which was approved 7 to 3 after a lengthy discussion over which company should be awarded the business, is contingent on New Flyer reaching a binding agreement for local hiring. Three board members pushed to give the contract to BYD instead, arguing that it was important to support local jobs at its Lancaster facility.”

Details about the orders:

60 BYD for Silver Line – details

CONSIDER: A. AUTHORIZING the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) to award a firm fixed-price contract, Contract No. OP28367-002, Group C, to BYD Coach & Bus, LLC (BYD) for the manufacture and delivery of sixty 40′ zero emission (ZE) transit buses, in the amount of $44,967,874 for the base contract, including spare parts, charging equipment, taxes and delivery; exclusive of any contract option buses, subject to resolution of any properly submitted protest. B. AUTHORIZING the CEO to award an additional not-to-exceed amount of $2,806,849 for Optional Vehicle Features, and Training Aids for a total combined contract amount not-to-exceed $47,774,723. C. ESTABLISHING a life-of-project budget of $65,900,000 for the purchase of sixty 40′ zero emission buses, charging equipment, installation costs, infrastructure upgrades, and contingency under Capital Project no. 201077.”

New Flyer Industries electric bus at fast charging station

35 New Flyer for Orange Line – details

“CONSIDER: A. AUTHORIZING the Chief Executive Officer to award a firm fixed-price contract, Contract OP28367-001, Part D, to New Flyer of America for the manufacture and delivery of thirty-five 60′ zero emission transit buses, in the amount of $51,211,033 for the base contract, including charging equipment, taxes and delivery; exclusive of any contract option buses, subject to resolution of any properly submitted protest. B. AUTHORIZING the CEO to award an additional not-to-exceed amount of $8,839,064 for Optional Vehicle Features, Spare Parts, and Training Aids for a total combined contract amount not-to-exceed $60,050,097. C. ESTABLISHING a life-of-project budget of $72,101,419 for the purchase of thirty five zero emission buses, charging equipment, installation costs, infrastructure upgrades, and contingency under CP 201073”

source: Los Angeles Times

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19 responses to "Los Angeles Metro Authority To Buy 95 Electric Buses From BYD, New Flyer"

  1. Mark.ca says:

    Unfortunately the replaced busses are CNG which are fairly clean to begin with. Whish they would try to replace their diesel work trucks and other farting cars first and get the pollution down now…deal with co2 later.

    1. Tom says:

      A recent article noted that CNG buses in LA were cleaner than electric since the bulk of the electricity was coming from gas anyway. In fact electricity loses about 40% in transportation and inverter losses and such and the cng ends up being way cleaner. But certainly I support electric however you are correct. It seems like misplaced effort in some regards.

      1. Mark.ca says:

        The nat gas capacity is at 53.5% in Cali. The green energy can get up to over 50% during some hours of the day so no, CNG is not cleaner than half nat gas and half solar/wind. The conversion loses are nowere near what you say. All I’m saying is that I rather see the pollution brought down first and then deal with co2. One is killing us now, the other will kill us in the future…pick your battles.

        1. BenG says:

          Not to mention that electricity generated by natural gas in a modern combined cycle plant achieves 50+% efficiency compared to probably something like 35% in a bus engine.

          I do agree that diesels should be the first target for replacement.

  2. menorman says:

    For the record, New Flyer also has a factory close by, though it’s in Ontario which is in San Bernardino County, not LA County like Lancaster is. But both factories are physically about the same distance from DTLA.

  3. ClarksonCote says:

    I don’t understand the comment about the board members wishing the contract went to local manufacturer BYD instead of BYD.

    Is there supposed to be an “other than” in there? Or is this a divisional thing?

  4. Paul K says:

    Who has more experience making buses than GM? Missing in action. Not surprising.

    1. C. Hubbs says:

      GM hasn’t made a transit bus since 1987, when they sold that operation to MCI (not the phone company).

      Don’t let the facts get in the way of throwing GM under the bus, though.

      Anti-GM FUD on InsideEVs – also not surprising.

  5. Cavaron says:

    Are the new Buses really coming one year earlier than the old ones (2020 vs. 2021)?

  6. Tom says:

    Proterra?

    1. mhpr262 says:

      Proterry is way behind with their deliveries and can’t keep up with demand anyway. More orders wouldn’t help them.

  7. Windbourne says:

    Kind of weird.
    First off, byd’s plant is not a factory. It is final assembly. Basically, it brings few jobs there.
    New flyer is also assembly. Manufacturing is in Canada.

    Otoh, proterra is a 100% American made and is located by LA. As it is, proterra is considered by many to be superior to byd and yet, it sounds like LA did not consider them.

    1. Mikael says:

      Proterra is a tiny irrelevant company with more orders than they can handle anyway.

  8. Martin Winlow says:

    Hmmm… The Orange Line is 18 miles long and the timetable says it takes about 45m to get from one end to the other (average speed of 24mph). As the line runs from ~0400 – 0100 hrs, that means about 500 miles per day.

    I hope the charging system is up to it as the BYD bus has ‘only’ a range of 160 miles (4 hour re-charging time).

  9. Martin Winlow says:

    As a point of reference, LA’s bus system has ~2k busses for a population of 4m and carries 30k passengers/day.

    London (UK)’s Transport for London bus network has 9k busses, a population of 9m and carries 1m passengers/day.

    1. Mark.ca says:

      Yes, it sucks! Everything is so spread out here it’s hard to make the bus system work. I have a choice of taking the bus for 10 miles and get to work in about an hour (and freeze to death due to the ridiculously overused AC) or drive there in 20 min.

  10. Chris says:

    Not sure where you are getting your LA bus system numbers from, but they are very different from the officially posted ones (close to 900k passengers per day)

    http://isotp.metro.net/MetroRidership/Index.aspx

  11. ClarksonCote says:

    Jay/Mark… “contract go to local manufacturer BYD” should possibly be “contract go to local manufacturer instead of BYD” ?

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