London Mayor Will Double The Congestion Charge – Plug-In Vehicles To Win Big

JUL 30 2014 BY MARK KANE 13

BMW i3 In London

BMW i3 In London

According to British media, London Mayor Boris Johnson proposed to raise the charge for driving into central London for diesel and petrol cars, which do not meet Euro 6 standard.

Drivers of such cars could be forced to pay additional £10 on top of existing £11.50 per day for vehicles that produce more than 75g/km of CO2.

Because £21.50 (or more than $36 a day) is not a small amount, if such regulation comes into force, it will be another strong factor to switch to plug-in cars.

Funny is that the higher penalty for diesels was proposed after subsidization of this fuel, which shows how variable the policy in the UK is.

The mayor’s environment adviser, Matthew Pencharz, stated:

“Over recent years the Euro diesel engine standards have not delivered the emission savings expected, yet governments have been incentivising us to buy them.

“This has left us with a generation of dirty diesels.”

There is also a proposal to make a new Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) from 2020 on.

Source: BBC

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GeorgeS
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GeorgeS

They should do this in LA.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Both older/dirtier diesel and petrol vehicles should be subject to any such charges, not just diesel. While diesel may be stinkier and sootier, petrol has particulates as well, which are smaller, and go deeper into folks’ lungs.

ggpa
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ggpa

It is a good idea to measure, track and limit CO2, but there should be a consistent and fair way to calculate a merit number to compare PHEVs.

I for one do not believe the Outlander PHEV gets 148 mpg.

Currently folks can make anything up, so if you drive 40 miles electric in a Volt, and then use a quarter gallon for 10 more miles, it is possible to claim you are getting 200 mpg.

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Neither do Mitsubihi believe it gets 148mpg.
They emphasise real world mileage, and give a good idea of when it is more economical to buy their similarly priced diesel or the PHEV based on the sort of trips you normally do.

Mikael
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Mikael

The Outlander get’s about a pretty poor 30-34 mpg in the real world when the battery is empty.
And about 20-24 miles on electricity.

The 148 mpg is some kind of combined score which really tells you very little…

So if you’re thinking about the Outlander then you have much more accurate real world numbers above.

ggpa
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ggpa

DaveMart / Mikael

Like you I do not believe the Outlander mgh numbers. So should anyone believe its CO2/km numbers?

Why then, is it exempt from London Congestion charge?

Mikael
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Mikael

It is because it’s a step in the right direction. A PHEV can run partly on electricity and displace a lot of the emissions, especially if used in an optimal way and saving the electricity for the city center.

As you see they are also thinking about having an ultra low emission zone. Which will prepare the car buyers for remembering that their next car will have to be electric if they want to get in there.

PHEV’s are not perfect but they are a step in the right direction and you still have to remember that it’s only Norway in the world that even has 1% of the cars on the roads being EV’s.

Just_Chris
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Just_Chris

The average speed in London before the congestion charge was 4 miles per hour. I suspect it will be higher than that by now but it still won’t be very high. The speed limit in the UK for a built up area is 30 mph even at that brake neck pace you should be able to get the 148 mpg in the outlander or volt or better for most London journeys under 2hrs.

I really think SUV’s (electric or otherwise) should be banned in London they are a complete hazard and far to large to drive around on a road network designed for horses, perhaps restricted to the bus lanes and main roads. Unless you have a genuine need to drive a big car in London (delivery van, bus, regularly carry 4 people in the car, etc..) you should be in a small hatchback.

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Small SUV’s are fine in UK cities, emphasis small, as they take up no more room than a conventional car, just giving you a lot of accomodation due to the sit up and beg position than a conventional saloon.

Most roads in city pedestrian areas are now 20mph, not 30mph, although in rush hour you will certainly not be speeding along at that rate, more like half it.

I think it unwise to make the best the enemy of the good, and the Outlander PHEV at an affordable price will vastly cut emissions, especially considering the lower average commute distance in Europe compared to the US.

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Diesel was a lot more heavily subsidised elsewhere in Europe than in the UK, and in fact a litre of diesel including tax costs more than petrol, which is more than made up for by the diesel car getting more miles per litre.

The new regulations will hit diesel far harder than petrol cars.

Petrol cars which will not have to pay the extra are everything built after 2006, which by the 2020 introduction will be old bangers anyway.
The diesel standard will only allow exemption for cars built after 2014 when Eurocap 6 came in.

By 2018 all Hackney Carriage taxis ( ‘Black Cabs’ ) will have to have electric drive only capability ie be either a plug in, a BEV or an FCEV.

DaveMart
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DaveMart

I forgot the link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/green-motoring/10997571/Should-I-keep-my-diesel-car.html

PS in other news from the UK driverless cars will be authorised for testing on the roads next year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069

Bill Howland
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Bill Howland

Yup, apparently everyone worrying about that Dangerous Pollutant CO2 drove Britons from about 1990 on to switch over to “Clean Diesel”, when, in fact, the particulates from them have now Polluted London, and now BOris is instuting am 18 pound sterling tax on them.

Bill Howland
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Bill Howland

Yup, apparently everyone worrying about that Dangerous Pollutant CO2 drove Britons from about 1990 on to switch over to “Clean Diesel”, when, in fact, the particulates from them have now Polluted London, and now Boris is instituting an 18 pound sterling tax on them.