Locals Are Interested In Tesla As GM Plant Closes

JAN 17 2019 BY EVANNEX 42

AS GM PLANT CLOSES, LOCALS ARE KEEN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT TESLA

In November, General Motors announced plans to stop producing most of its sedans and close down five North American factories, including a plant in Lordstown, Ohio that produces the doomed Chevrolet Cruze. Some have speculated that Tesla might be interested in buying some of the soon-to-be-shuttered plants, perhaps repeating the coup the company scored when it purchased its Fremont factory from Toyota for a song in 2010. Elon Musk and Ohio Governor John Kasich batted the possibility around on Twitter, but GM CEO Mary Barra recently threw cold water on the idea, saying that Tesla wouldn’t want to buy a unionized factory.

*This article comes to us courtesy of EVANNEX (which also makes aftermarket Tesla accessories). Authored by Charles Morris. The opinions expressed in these articles are not necessarily our own at InsideEVs.

Above: Tesla’s Model S (Image: EVANNEX)

It remains to be seen whether a Tesla takeover of GM’s Lordstown Complex is a realistic possibility or not. However, it’s safe to assume that folks who live in the area of the plant, which employs some 4,500 people (nearly 1,000 more than live in the village of Lordstown) are deeply concerned about its future, and many are interested in learning more about Tesla.

“After GM builds its last Cruze in Lordstown, no one knows what will come next,” says news anchor Dave Sess of Youngstown TV station WKBN in in a recent segment. “The automaker does plan a shift into electric cars, though. I found a local Tesla driver and wondered what an all-electric car was like on the road, so I went for a ride with him to find out.”

Above: New Castle resident Russ Carley talks about his Tesla (Youtube: WKBN27)

New Castle resident Russ Carley is a high-mileage driver – he put 100,000 miles on two Toyota Prii before ordering his Model S in July 2017. He says he had to wait 14 months for delivery, but so far he’s a happy customer – he loves “the smoothness, the modern technology and all the whizzes and bangs and bells,” and finds that “for all the miles I drive, [it is] really cost-effective.”

Regular readers of this column may smile at the gee-whiz tone of WKBN’s report, but keep in mind that it’s aimed at viewers who may be entirely unfamiliar with Tesla, and may not even be aware that an electric car is a viable option. “There’s plenty of mystique when you see a Tesla on the road,” says WKBN’s Sess. “It’s so quiet you only hear the tires on the road.”

Above: GM’s Lordstown plant that built Chevy’s Cruze (Image: Paddock Chevrolet)

Carley bought his Tesla for its cutting-edge technology, and he loves it when people recognize the car. He believes electric cars are the wave of the future, and that building them could be a long-term answer for the workers of Lordstown.

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Written by: Charles Morris; Source: WKBN

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42 Comments on "Locals Are Interested In Tesla As GM Plant Closes"

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Step 1 is for Michigan to remove laws blocking Tesla stores and service centers.

Step 2: right to work without being threatened with violence.

This factory is in Ohio.

Maybe he was thinking of the Volt Factory – In Michigan?

Why would Elon care about MI, if he is buying an Ohio plant?

Well, Mary Barra is right on, The workers may be experienced, the factory may be worthwhile, but this is an “old dog, new tricks” situation here. Having drawn a union paycheck at least once in my life, I can tell you that not all unions are created equally. The right ones serve valuable functions for day labor employment. Others aren’t about day labor, they are about large, continuous contracts, such as the UAW or Teamsters, or various government worker unions. Collective bargaining is an out of control weed. If you look at how Elon has organized his company, where they take on certain functions that would have been supplied by a day labor sort of union, there’s a redundancy. He’s given his workers stock options, treated the blues like the whites in the shirt collar labor metaphor. Tesla is building cars differently than how ships are being loaded at a port. When you give someone who is making an hourly labor paycheck a stock option, granted, it’s not the same as an executive, but it is the same treatment. Nearly every HR and Business degree program covers Southwest Airlines. I hope, someday, that Tesla looks a lot like SWA from… Read more »

Some people on this forum will accuse you and Elon Musk of promoting slavery, because I’ve been told by PuPu that being nice to people is advocating for slavery. At least one other agreed with him.

83 % of Southwest Airlines employees are covered by union contracts

https://www.swamedia.com/pages/contracts

Mistaken downvote, by me: I was trying to expand your comment, with which I agree, and hit the thumbs down icon instead.

FYI – If you up-vote the same comment, it takes back your down-vote.

I continue to think that ELon should work with employees and let them start a union, but one that works with the company.

Love going past that plant heading to PA and NYC. Still making American built cars but not no more 😔

This is fake news. Mary did not say these words, but she clearly tried to deflect the blame for the plant closure to Tesla!

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Yes Mary , It’s all Tesla’s Fault That GM is run by a Bunch of Greedy Know it All Idiot Cave Dwellers from the 19th Century .

Unlike Mary B. Greedy, Quality Chevrolet of Escondido, here in California, is so generous that they offer free oil changes for life, on all of their Bolt EVs and other vehicles, that are sold from The Gen-Mot-Lot.

Doh! LOL. But to be fair, they were selling Bolts for $30K few months ago.

Oh, do post an image of that, would you? LOL

I just called, they aren’t including oil changes on the Bolt. Worthwhile conversation with Ali. He says they did the most Bolt EV sales last year.

LOL….just the other day i was looking on Autotrader at some Ioniq ev and they had free oil changes for the first 3 years!!! DEAL!!!

As I said above: “GM CEO Mary Barra recently threw cold water on the idea, saying that Tesla wouldn’t want to buy a unionized factory.” – However – a Closed Factory – is no longer a Union Factory, it is just a Box, that can be used for a number of different things, if bought, including Producing Cars, Semi’s, Pickups, CUV’s – in the Case of Tesla Buying it!

I think you’re missing the Union culture. You hire those workers… they will want to unionize, won’t they? Tesla may strip that factory for parts, but the workers in that area are carriers for the UAW cancer. Until local laborers decry they don’t want union labor, I think Ms. Barra is probably right in her inferences.

Mau be these workers do not want to unionize any more when they have the possibility of getting a job with Tesla. Better a non unionized job than no job!

A large portion of the workers at the Fremont factory were UAW workers when it was NUMMI. They don’t want to unionize because they know that the UAW was not looking out for them.

I think Tesla will have to pay (prohibitively)more without the unionized labor as GM banks on the Trojan horse effect.

Mary Barra is the new Bob Lutz

“…stop producing most of its sedans…”
They will still produce the Malibu, Regal, ATS, CTS and others.

They are discontinued

From article: “…but GM CEO Mary Barra recently threw cold water on the idea, saying that Tesla wouldn’t want to buy a unionized factory…”
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A factory purchase does not include buying the workers… illegal to sell the workers… unless they are robots.

The closed down NUMMI GM/Toyota Fremont factory that Tesla purchased was also unionized… that did not stop Tesla from reopening the factory as a non-unionized facility.

She probably meant deal to sell a plant as a working factory in a single operational deal. When such a deal takes place the selling party doesn’t have to lay off their workers.
Yet Tesla isn’t going to work with unionized workers. It wants to buy a shuttered down plant in a real estate deal, and then re-hire non-unionized workforce that just happens to be former GM plant workers.
This way GM has to lay off everyone effectively being The Evil One. The workers will lose their UAW membership by not being a part of any automotive plant workforce. And they probably will never ever join the Union that betrayed them.
Serves justice both to GM and the UAW.

Exactly! 24 Hours after the Last Employee gets his severance check, and they Turn the lights out (or sooner!), it is no longer a “Union Shop”, it is just a Building!

“GM CEO Mary Barra recently threw cold water on the idea, saying that Tesla wouldn’t want to buy a unionized factory.” – However – a Closed Factory – is no longer a Union Factory, it is just a Box, that can be used for a number of different things, if bought, including Producing Cars, Semi’s, Pickups, CUV’s – in the Case of Tesla Buying it! Also cuts shipping and delivery times down for Central USA and East Coast! Would Allow Tesla To ship from there to Europe Quicker, too! As would buying the Oshawa, Ontario, GM Plant!

If – Oshawa – then Tesla Would likely work to have Ontario Put some Program Back together – for Buyers, maybe not the old $14,000 Meme, but a $10,000 Figure about equals the US’s $7,500 Tax Credit! In Lordstown, they might make that move – if Ohio adds some Credit or Rebate Program – for Buyers, too! Adding a Solar Panel Production Line, and a Panasonic Cell & Tesla Battery Line there, at each Plant, could also add benefits, as to reduced shipping costs for finished Products to Car Production, and to Customer Deliveries!

Union issues aside, there would be something cool in Tesla building cars there, since Tesla is supposed to be the most American-made car on the road.

The Model 3 is, for sure, but I’m not sure about the S and X. It might be true, now, but my (old-news) understanding is that the 18650s are being manufactured in Japan.

Based on past Tesla comments likely all future Tesla EV factories will be massively large vertically integrated gigafactories like one going up in China… raw material enter one end and cars come out the other end. It’s likely the Nevada Tesla gigafactory will eventually also crank out EVs perhaps staring with Tesla Semi.

Exception to that will be smaller “final assembly” factories that allow Tesla to lower import tax.

That is my expectation, as well – it’s gotta be logistically much simpler, and significantly cheaper, to do it that way.

Seems impractical to buy a factory so far removed from the Fremont and Reno locations forcing Tesla to ship parts over thousands of miles. Well, unless it’s another Fremont style bargain basement deal I suppose and one without any UAW workers.

These people shouldn’t get their hopes up.

Stop asking what Tesla can do for them. What GM, its workers, and local government can do for Tesla or others to keep this place open and keep the work force.

I am all about labor rights and such and in general unions have gone too far to drive manufacturing out.. Me and wife are US Citizens (immigrants turned citizens) and we both have advanced degrees (3 Masters for me a PhD for my wife)… We have never had any comfort of a union in our work life so far.. Employment has been always at will. I have lost jobs because my job was outsourced India (where we were born).. At times we have struggled without a pay check… So, I have no sympathy. Yet we have endured. I say any labor laws should be part of the state and better be competitive.. otherwise we will loose in the market place. The top execs of any company will get rid of you a will…

We will never truly reach our potential, as a species, until we crucify and bury the notion of “profit over people”. Long live union labor!

Tesla should avoid Trumpy states and build cars where people support progress and appreciate science, technology and support reduction of emissions.

THEIR WORKERS’ UNIONS DIDN’T PROTECT AGAINST GM’S SHUTDOWNS IF THE UNIONIZED WORKERS THERE AT OLD GM FACTORIES ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT TESLA’S NEW NORM OFFER PRACTICED AT TESLA’S FACTORY AT FREMONT & GIGAFACTORY 1 & 2 OF ACCEPTING STOCK OPTIONS INSTEAD AND DE-UNIONIZING, THERE IS A GREAT CHANCE THAT TESLA WOULD BE KEEN TO TAKEOVER WHAT GM HAS HAD LEFT OFF IN THEIR SHUT-DOWN FACTORIES WITH ALL THE SAID STATES INVOLVED IN ALLOWING TESLA TO SELL ALL THEIR “MAKE TO ORDER” BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES DIRECTLY TO CONSUMERS IN THOSE STATES AND ALSO SALES TAX RELIEFS OF 25 YEARS AS THEIR INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT TESLA TO BUILD THEIR BEV THEREIN, POSSIBLY RETAINING MOST OF THE LOST JOBS & CREATING NEW JOBS, POSITIVELY, RIGHTLY & SURELY OF COURSE OK???

If there is ANY chance of Tesla buying a plant, it would require several things:
1) any state not have barriers to Tesla showrooms/ service centers/etc.
2) NO UAW. That is a deal breaker ALWAYS for Elon.
He is not opposed to Unions, just ones controlled by mafia.