Less Than 500 Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars Are In All Of Europe Today (250 Hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell Vehicles)

NOV 6 2015 BY MARK KANE 26

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Hyundai announced its largest-ever shipment of 50 ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles to Europe in October, increasing its total number of hydrogen fuel cell cars in Europe to over 250.

At the same time, Hyundai assured us of its leadership in the fuel cell vehicle roll-out, as with over 250 cars Hyundai has more on the road than every other manufacturer combined.

This allows us to conclude that there are no more than 500 hydrogen fuel cell cars on European roads. We are not even sure that there are 400 FCVs out there in Europe.

On the other hand, plug-in electric cars only in 2015 will far exceed 150,000 sales in Europe. We believe that Europe has an order of magnitude more all-electric cars from 10 or so years ago during the pre-lithium-ion era.

Hyundai strongly believes in hydrogen fuel cell cars and offers ix35 Fuel Cell to both private and corporate customers in 11 countries in Europe. By the end of the year, two more – Spain and Switzerland – will be included for a total of 13. Total mileage of the fleet is more than 1.2 million kilometres (about 746,000 miles) – on average around 6,000 km or 3,700 miles per each of the 200 units.

“With the refuelling infrastructure in Europe continuing to grow, Hyundai will further expand its Fuel Cell distribution network. Hyundai Motor is the first manufacturer to train and equip its dealership staff across Europe in the servicing and repair of Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles, to ensure a consistent level of highly informed, high quality customer service.”

Thomas A. Schmid, Chief Operating Officer at Hyundai Motor Europe, commented:

“This latest landmark delivery enhances our leading position in the roll-out of fuel cell vehicles in Europe. With our fuel cell distribution network growing to 13 European countries, we are enhancing our sales and customer service capabilities, making fuel cell electric vehicles more accessible for customers throughout Europe.”

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26 Comments on "Less Than 500 Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars Are In All Of Europe Today (250 Hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell Vehicles)"

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Even worse: zero Bolts, Model Xs, and Model 3s! Why weren’t we told? WHY WEREN’T WE TOLD?

Oh, wait: this is 2015 and not 2025. Whew. Well perhaps by then this site will have enough daily page views that it can stop aggressively trolling is readership.

Not sure but blind that’s for sure.
The tree models you cite just don’t even exist or isn’t available yet, contrary to those FCEV.
Get over with, it will get worse, and you won’t have to wait until 2025.
People aren’t that stupid that some hard nut wish they are.

Well, it has been more than 2 years since the ix35 fuel cell was launched in Europe. Yet they are still under 250. Just 1 week of sales of one those examples would probably go over that.

Even for a compliance or fleet vehicle that is a glacially slow pace.

ISIS Loves Hydrogen Vehicles.
Thanks Hyundai!

Huh? Why does ISIS love hydrogen vehicles? If all the H2 for FCVs was made from natural gas and none from electrolysis or renewable sources, wouldn’t that mean that the demand will drop for the black market crude oil that ISIS is selling to finance their terrorism?

Wrong. The failure of FCVs will allow automakers to say “see, I told you so” and continue the status quo. While collecting subsidies in one fell swoop, including credits to continue selling ICE vehicles.


Unless the cost of all aspects of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles come down significantly – at least by half – it’s going to be pretty hard for FCVs to sell in anything other than novelty numbers.

The H2 industry may meet its goal of 100 refueling stations by 2020, but if H2 fuel costs are still $13.50 to $16.50 per kg, there will be very little consumer acceptance, let alone demand.

Looks like hydrogen fcv’s are about to blast off.

They’re looking for ExPlOsIvE Growth.

Oh, now I understand. First you mention ISIS (comment above), now explosions. You’re an EV fanboy spreading hydrogen FUD.

P.S.: You misspelled explosive, and mixing large case and small case letters makes you look juvenile. I suggest that you use spell check, and stick to using a single case within the same word if you’re not a tween.

Press release:

Tesla banged out 50 more EVs this morning… every morning, and afternoon… evening, too.

Nationwide traveling, free forever.

It would be interesting to see and compare the number of FCV’s at the end of 2015, versus BEV’s & PHEV’s at the end of 2010: the 1st year said EV’s were on the road (this time), as listed on this website’s tally.

My co-worker who is Pro FCV keeps telling me of how much better they are getting, so it would be great to keep a running total of the FCV’s by month, compared to all other EV’s with this ~5 year offset. That way we can track their beginings against BEV/PHEV (& EREV) sales.

Yes, the FCEV cars are getting better. Unfortunately that doesn’t matter, because the fuel never will.

What properties would hydrogen need to make it a practical fuel, instead of the wholly impractical and unaffordable one it is?

1. Liquid at room temperature and standard atmospheric pressure

2. Able to be stored in standard containers without significant leakage, and without degrading them

3. High chemical energy content by volume

4. Precursor mineral able to be pumped out of the ground cheaply

5. In unrefined form, able to be carried in existing pipelines

6. Able to be processed/refined into a practical fuel cheaply

Let’s see, now… are there any fuels that fit these criteria? Oh, yeah… gasoline and diesel. Hydrogen has none of these properties!

Too bad we can’t wave a magic wand and change the characteristics of hydrogen to match gasoline. That’s the only way hydrogen fuel could ever be practical. Even fully synthetic gasoline would be far more practical, and affordable, than hydrogen fuel.

The Chevy Volt can.

You’re comparing a vast world-wide multi-TRILLION dollar fuel production against hydrogen, which is just getting it’s feet off the ground???

Wow, just wow!

Any other insights you wish to share?

To me it was just here are some properties of hydrogen. That will not change no matter how long you wait or how much technology you throw at the problem. Hydrogen will still be a problematic fuel.
He did even go into the lack of stations and the expense of implementing a hydrogen solution.

Clearly you failed to understand any part of what I wrote. Nothing on that list will ever change. There is no clever invention which can change the chemical or physical properties of the element hydrogen.

And you don’t understand that technology changes, and can make hydrogen viable, and considerably more viable than the massive investment/infrastructure that the oil industry requires.

If you’re going to make an argument, argue for EV’s, so at least we can breath clean air.

Hydrogen can only be viable if there are No Other Solutions.

But, that’s never going to happen.
They’re already dead against gas, and the current state of electric batteries. The economics of using electricity to convert one carbon source to hydrogen will NEVER be cheaper then using the electricity Directly to Fuel EV’s.

Batteries have the same improvement curve as solar and wind, now Both cheaper then All Carbon Sources, including coal and natural gas.

Economic Darwinism.

You’re isolating one single aspect of this entire complex issue.

Many things in life are done in not the most efficient manner when other important factors can over rule it.

You’re isolating one single aspect of this entire complex issue.

Many things in life are done in not the most efficient manner when other important factors can over rule it.

I wish I had your crystal ball of seeing the future unerringly.

I even wonder if sales and deliveries of all FCV’s yet beat the low selling iMiEV yet on a per month average, compared to Mitsubishi’s little EV in its beginnings?

It seems that there are fewer FC vehicles in the world that a bad months sales of the Nissan Leaf.

Hey, it makes it easy to multi-task; we can watch paint dry *and* track FCEV sales, easy-peasy!

I’m sorry to hear the group’s efforts to limit the future. We should be excited that 5 major auto companies (MBz,Toyota,Honda, Hyundai & GM) are brave enough to try different solutions to our problems, despite so many critics. The EV1 was a market failure 30 years ago, but look where EVs are today. Toyota had guts to launch the Prius against public opinion. Consider the Kitty Hawk, Mr. Columbus, the Redstone, or the Tesla Roadster. They all became something special. I’m fascinated by these technologies and hopeful the very obvious problems can be solved … in under 30 years that EVs took. The engineers are taking chances and making a difference. Too many people hide in their closet, with limited vision and hoping things stay the way they are. That’s not how America became great. Be an inventor or be an observer. The world has too many critics because it’s easier.