Lamborghini Claims Current EV Tech Not Ready For Electric Supercar

JUN 24 2018 BY CHRIS BRUCE 15

The Rimac Concept_One and Nio EP9 seem to prove otherwise.

You can count Lamborghini among the brands that believe battery technology isn’t yet at a level to allow for an electric supercar. Like fellow Volkswagen Group members Porsche and Audi, the Italian firm is waiting for the next big breakthrough before exploring such a vehicle.

“Our target is to deliver a super sports car, and these specifications don’t exist with a battery package in terms of energy and power,” Lamborghini Chief Technical Officer Maurizio Reggiani told Automotive News Europe.

According to Reggiani, an electric Lamborghini supercar needs to achieve a top speed in excess of 186 miles per hour (300 kilometers per hour), and the batteries need to allow for three laps of the Nürburgring Nordschleife. These stipulations are interesting because current technology would seem to allow for such a vehicle. For example, the Rimac Concept_Onehas 1,224 horsepower (900 kilowatts) and hits a top speed of 221 mph (355 kph). The 90-kilowatt-hour battery provides a claimed 217-mile (350-kilometer) range, but it’s not clear how far the pack would last at full speed around the ‘Ring.

In addition, the Nio EP9 set a Nordschleife record of 6:45.90 last year, which adds further credence to the notion that performance EVs are the real deal.

Lamborghini intends to move into electrification gradually. A plug-in hybrid Urus arrives first in 2019 and reportedly shares its powertrain with the Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid. Reggiani also previously confirmed the next-gen replacements for the Aventador and Huracán would use naturally aspirated powerplants with hybrid assistance.

In 2019, Lambo will get more serious about whether to create a fully electric supercar because it’ll complete a three-year partnership with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Then, the firm “can start to think about what this sort of car would be,” Reggiani told Automotive News Europe.

Source: Automotive News Europe

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rey

CTO Reglianni s statements are why legacy auto co.s are doomed to become dinosaurs, they can’t admit the fact that ICEs are done, have reached the limits of its potential, any improvements are minimal and a waste of financial resources, move on or get bypassed and see your Kodak / Nokia moment I look forward to the day when I will see the likes of Bugatti and Ferarris and Lambos only in Museums and Concours d’ Elegance, a dying breed indeed.

Dave100e
See now this just isn’t true. The whole legacy auto manufacturers are dinosaurs opinion couldn’t be further from the truth. VAG have been developing their EV powertrains for over a decade now. I love the way some people like to pretend the R8 e-tron and SLS E-Cell just never happened. The “dinosaur” auto industry saw the EV shift coming 20 years ago, when the likes of the Honda Insight and Toyota Prius was released, just in case you weren’t aware that was before Tesla was even founded. There a few reasons why Lamborghini and other OEM supercar manufacturers haven’t gone full EV yet (it’s funny the way everyone just disregards the last generation of hybrid supercars, as if that doesn’t count as electrification). The first and most important is that a supercar is a multifaceted experience. Because that’s what you are selling, an experience. The immense surge of acceleration you get from an EV is hilariously good fun, but soon wears thin. Unfortunately most EV supercars are using that as their trump card, it’s their only real USP, and people spending six figures often want a little more than that. All the acceleration in the world will never match the… Read more »
wavelet

The only “experience” Lamborghini is selling is bling badge engineering. Paying 5x for the same drivetrain as a Porsche. Hopefully they’re at least more reliable than the independent-era ones were, but basically cars for suckers who want to demonstrate conspicuous consumption. Almost as bad as Rolls Royce.

Dave100e
And that’s wrong too. The Aventador is completely bespoke, Lamborghini developed the Huracan which Audi then uses for their R8 platform. The base Huracan in the UK cost’s £155,000 and the base R8 cost’s £109,000, so not 5 x the price at all. The V10 and V12 are two of the most sought after, highly regarded engines in production today and both cars set incredibly fast lap times around the Nordschleife (if you like to use that as a benchmark, as others have). The Aventador SV managed a 6.59.73 and the Huracan Perfomante a 6.52 (although there’s still some questions hanging over that time). Compare that to the Nio EP9, which has a 600bhp and 800NM advantage over the Aventador yet weighs the same but only managed a 6.45.9, despite all of the aero and grip claims Nio made for their super limited production car. You could even argue it’s not a production car. None of that constitutes badge engineering nor is it conspicuous consumption. Both of those cars represent cutting edge performance engineering, which the owners want a part of, irrelevant to whether they will actually use it all. I’ll freely admit the Urus is a badge engineering exercise,… Read more »
David Green

I agree, its one thing to build a one off prototype supercar for a single track run, its different to build a meaningful EV supercar that a company can build and make money at.

Another Euro point of view

Exactly, with current battery technology either an EV is very fast (Nio EP 9 & VW ID “Pikes peak”) or it has decent range (thus heavy) and not able to do lap times on the “ring” that is worthy of super car category (around or under 7 minute per lap). For example I could not find the Nurburgring time of Rimac concept one but there is plenty of information about 0-60 mph or 0-100 mph performance of that car. Super car category is an “old word” benchmark (curvy European style country road) as opposed to fast in a straight line. In a few years, with battery energy density increase, this will change.

earl colby pottinger

Yes, but I dare you to find a link that claimed a super-car needs to do the Nürburgring Nordschleife three times first that is more than a couple of years old.

It’s the old move the goal-post game, first it was electrics could not do the Nürburgring Nordschleife loop below a certain time. Then the RIMAC and Nio EP9 met those times, now it is doing three loops which interesting as I understand a number of ICE cars can not do it either as they will run out of gas at full speed.

What next once electric cars can do the loop three times at speed? Claim it must make noise?

Agreed. I’m not a supercar guy and honestly could care less about one-off vehicles or cars that the average Joe can’t even think about affording. Nonetheless, even in the real world, EVs raise the bar and the bar gets set higher. The goal posts move even on the most family-friendly, budget EVs. Can’t possibly do enough?!?!? I’ll tell you that I drive surface roads most of the time and when I do jump on the freeway, I hit 75-80 mph tops occasionally. No need for me or many people to have a car that tops 155 or 200 mph. It’s just plain unsafe to do that unless you’re racing. Even today’s EVs like the Nissan LEAF and Chevrolet Bolt boast more than enough torque and decent 0-60-mph numbers to make your daily drive somewhat exciting and give you the power to merge, pass, etc. But, that will never be good enough for those that promote the “dinosaurs.” WE know it but THEY don’t. It’s why we post the silly drag race videos and these EV records and push stuff like that heavily to content partners that primarily live in the ICE world. They’re happy to publish it and perhaps, eventually,… Read more »
pjwood1

Current ICE tech not ready for Pikes Peak record. Who wants a “supercar”, that runs out of breath with heat and altitude?

eject

And he is right. What is a point of a Lambo that can’t cross the alps at speed.

Samwise

What is the point of a Lambo at all…
Seriously when were they ever actually supposed to make sense???

John

Guess Lambo hasn’t heard of Rimac. Or the Roadster 2.0..

CJH

The Rimac doesn’t prove otherwise… They may be fast but long charging times are still a detriment for a supercar that could spend all day the track. Just put gas in a lambo and you could go all day almost non-stop. A Rimac you’d have to take regular, and long, charging breaks.

EE-Master

Lol the thing is that a lot of people in the automotive industry do not exactly know the right people to hire for creating an all electric vehicle.

Dave100e

It’s not because they don’t know who to hire, it’s because it’s a burgeoning sector with a limited pool of talent.