Knock Off BMW i3 Is Hideous

JUN 10 2015 BY STAFF 40

Chinese automaker Qingzhou Da Jinma Motorcycle Corporation has unveiled the Jinma KWM2200 at the Shandong EV Expo – and judging by the first photos, it’s a hideous knock off of BMW’s i3 electric vehicle. The low-speed electric vehicle (LSEV) has a front-end that resembles the i3, starting with a chrome kidney grille, similar position of the badge on the hood, the headlights, foglights and the lower bottom of the bumper.

In the back, the knock off is less visible, yet the taillights and bumper are also a replica of the i3.

The interior design was a bit harder to replicate, so the Jinma KWM2200 sticks to cheap parts that make for a low-budget cabin. The car is is 3000mm long, 1400mm wide and 1540mm tall, with a 1930mm wheelbase and seating for four people.

The 3 kW electric motor works together with an old-generation lead-acid battery. A lithium-ion battery pack is planned in the future.

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Jinma KWM2200

Top speed for the car is set at 50 km/h (31 mph) with an optimistic driving range of 120 km (75 miles).  A  full recharge takes seven hours from a regular household outlet.

The Jinma KWM2200 has a starting price of 24,998 yuan (around $4,020).

*Editor’s Note: This post appears on BMWBLOG. Check it out here.

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Jinma KWM2200

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Jinma KWM2200

[Source: Carnewschina]

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40 Comments on "Knock Off BMW i3 Is Hideous"

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Itamar

looks like a larger version of one of those cars for kids

James

Larger?

Uglier certainly

Goaterguy

And the original i3 is beautiful?!

jilljill

I think This Is a Big Improvement! It’s More than Likely A “Fraction of the BMW Price” $$$..& I bet the FRUNK Is Sealed & doesn’t Get Dust, Water & Leaves in it Either., & Probably Safer To Drive..

Yeah and it probably didnt win the top 5 Cnet award or countless others that the i3 won for technological innovation. Of course you are more concerned about a frunk that doesn’t even exist in 99% of today’s cars…so go figure.

jilljill

BMW is an “IMAGE” Brain Wash Company & SEllS Expensive “JUNK” … N0 BMW owner will Fess Up To that! But I Will!….You Couldn’t give Me 0NE! Had My Fill With The Few I Owned., & Never Again .. Nice Day……Look at Me !

Goaterguy

What do the Chevrolet Corvair, Chevrolet Vega, Ford Mustang II,and the Chrysler Cirrus have in common?
All were named Motor Trend car of the year! Being named best of something by a few non automotive or even automotive magazines or websites, means nothing other than the magazine or website wants to sell hype.

jilljill

Thank You Goaterguy !….

CDAVIS

@jilljill said: “I think This Is a Big Improvement!”

Lol. Really?

There is much about the Chinese culture to admire but its modern complete void of original ideas and blatant willingness to copy (steal) others IP is stunning in its degree. It’s so over-the-top that really its more comical than sad.

Jinma vs BMW i3:

storky

They obviously spent tens of hours in research in development.

Mart

Wait until you see the Chinese copy of the old East German Trabant. hahaha

Lensman

+1

It’s not China-bashing, but simply fact to note that modern China has serious problems with lack of real invention/innovation, and that the strong cultural trend towards copying/stealing technology from other countries is self-defeating. This is a serious problem which will need to see real change before Chinese make cars can compete on the world market.

leaf owner

BINGO – the #1 thing Chinese engineers do is try to do the same thing cheaper — and most (if not all) of the time they are willing to sacrifice quality.

Priusmaniac

It has 4 doors and get rid of that wood in cabin. But size sucks even more.

Lensman

“…Probably Safer To Drive.”

A Chinese make car safer than a BMW? Umm…

That’s like suggesting the molehill is taller than the mountain.

M Hovis

Not what I would consider a true i3 knock off, but without a doubt some direct mimics as pointed out in the article.

It just kept getting worse as I read of the lead acid batteries until I got to the price of $4020!

You have to appreciate that only 10 years ago, the vast majority of the 2 billion Chinese population used a bicycle as their primary source of transportation. If the battery makes it 3-5 years, this EV has done its job.

We have witnessed disposable electronics for some time now. This one may have just moved the bar. The longer I look, the more it hurts.

Goaterguy

I was in Xiangyang China last month on a work assignment and it is incredible how much construction and development is around. Many drive electric scooters and tuk tuks around all running on lead acid batteries.
Lead acid batteries are still a big business and are not going away anytime soon.

jilljill

If they were to Put Lithium Batteries , That thing Will Go @ Least 500 Miles On One Charge! Think about that!

David Murray

I don’t see any benefit to lead-acid batteries at this point. A few years ago, I might have said yes. But the price of lithium has fallen so much, to be honest, I’m surprised auto makers haven’t started using them in place of 12V starting batteries.

Lou Grinzo

For any car company to use lead acid batteries in 2015 there has to be a reason, and I’m guessing it’s price. I can’t think of a technical reason (weight, performance, etc.) to prefer lead acid over lithium, so the only other part of the cost/benefit ratio is cost.

I would point out that if lead acid batteries are readily available but lithium packs are much tougher to acquire for legal or infrastructure reasons, then lithium packs are effectively more expensive than their price might indicate.

Alonso Perez

The Model S 12V battery is lead-acid too.

We are talking about a car designed from scratch.

Yet, it uses numerous standard automotive components, running on 12V. Replacing lead acid for this task is probably harder than it looks.

Ryan

The first Tesla Roadster used the main pack to power 12v systems but they later added a lead acid 12v battery to the 2.0 and 2.5 models… with the Model S also having a lead-acid battery there must be a good reason lol

Lensman

The reason is to prevent “bricking” of the main battery pack, which was a problem with a few early Roadsters, but never in the Model S. So far as I know, all robust BEVs powered by li-ion batteries have a 12V lead-acid starter battery for this purpose. (With “robust” I exclude most cars made in China.)

But it may not be long before we see auto makers moving to using li-ion for the starter battery, too.

Priusmaniac

This insideev article mention A123 for 12 v Lithium batteries:

http://insideevs.com/a123-systems-sees-future-in-lithium-ion-starter-batteries/#comment-690290

And in the comments 2 others have been mentioned:

http://www.bioennopower.com

http://www.braillebattery.com/index.php/braille/product_series/lithium_ion

So it is possible if the desire to do so is there. In an ev the higher cost is likely at least partially compensate by a lower weight.

Lensman

David Murray said:

“I don’t see any benefit to lead-acid batteries at this point.”

From the viewpoint of a manufacturer in a country which is still halfway stuck in the status of third-world low-tech, it’s certainly a lot easier and faster to design a car using lead-acid batteries, which don’t need a BMS (Battery Management System) like a li-ion pack does. It also lets them sell it at a lower cost.

Long term, of course, the li-ion battery pack wins hands down. But in a boom market like China, long term considerations may appear unimportant for the seller, and perhaps for the buyer too.

RS

Well it is ugly, but for $4000, thats ok. Show me any motorized car-thing you could buy for less than that with 4 seats. A car like this brings you to work cheaper than a scooter and is only a fraction more expensive. And you can bring your spouse, your one legal kid and your illegal one. I have heard there is lots of competition for these cheap LSEVs and standing out of the crowd, might help.

Goaterguy

Even if there is no second kid, many live with their parents too. As a Latino living in the US, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw how family stays together much closer in China during my last trip there.

leptoquark

This actually wouldn’t be terribly bad in a giant city, like Chengdu. You could live with 30 mph.

Kosh

If cars had genetic errors……

Anon

Cute Chinese NEV.

I like how they left the plastic wrap on the seats. Quality. 😉

Speculawyer

I can’t believe they actually wanted to copy the i3!

Priusmaniac

I guess there is even a copy of the copy. (With pedals.)

We haven’t seen a copy of the Model S though but since that car is so good even a copy would likely be not too bad in comparison with a standard gasoline car.

MDEV

They look similar, like a model entry version of the i3 line. Both cars are realy ugly.

Nonda Trimis

+1

Speculawyer

At least the people in the back can get out of the car when the driver farts.

Priusmaniac

That is the good old rule that the copier version is often better since he doesn’t copy the originals mistakes.

Spider-Dan

Well, if it’s hideous, then I’d say they did a pretty good job of copying the original!

Nix

What? Not a single comment about the “door gaps”???? What has this world come to?

//sarc

Bill Howland

InsideEv’s is picking on our Chinese friends again. $4000 isnt bad t all if it works. Those Polaris GEMS, or whomever owns them now (there have been several owners) are not as good a value at twice the price.

Robert

Oh dear…
Not exactly up to the knockoff Evoque spec is it!