301-Mile Kia Niro EV To Be Priced Well Under $40,000 In U.S.

SEP 20 2018 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 165

Day by day. Bit by bit.

That’s how the news seems to now be trickling in for the Kia Niro EV.

Oddly, Kia doesn’t seem to be all that interested in widely sharing Niro EV news, so we’ve had to dig deep into some foreign media sources to find the relevant info.

This latest bit of Niro EV news relates to pricing, which of course is high up on the list of importance for any electric car buyer.

Just the other day we revealed that the Niro EV was rated at 301 miles (WLTP). That should work out to approximately 260 miles EPA, or just a wee bit higher than its close relative the Hyundai Kona Electric. It’s an impressive figure that’s only exceeded by Teslas here in the U.S.

With range info now in hand, the only missing element is price. And guess what? We’ve got that juicy info to share with you now.

Here’s the info from Express.co.uk:

The car is expected to costs around £30,000 when it goes on sale which makes it over half the price of a lot of its rivals including the Tesla Model X, Jaguar I-Pace, Audi e-Tron, and Mercedes EQA.

Admittedly, comparing the Niro EV to those other crossovers is not advised, as the Niro won’t be fighting against luxury electrics. But the pricing info does provide us with a base for U.S. conversion. That £30,000 works out to $39,854 USD. Assuming the £30,000 is the base price for the 64-kWh version (which is in line with official Hyundai Kona Electric pricing in the UK – see graphic below) then we should be able to safely assume the U.S. Niro EV will start comfortably under $40,000.

Here’s why we say comfortably under. The Kia Niro PHEV starts at £25,162.50 in the UK and has an official U.S. price of $27,900. So, the Niro EV then should ballpark in the low to mid $30,000 range. Let’s say $33,900. After the tax credit, it would drop to $26,400. Sounds like a winner to us.

***See graphics below for UK pricing info on the Kona Electric and Niro PHEV:

Kona Electric

Kia Niro EV
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Source: Express.co.uk

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165 Comments on "301-Mile Kia Niro EV To Be Priced Well Under $40,000 In U.S."

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Nono13

Why do you still not write 301 miles “WLTP” in your title ? And I say that even though I really don’t care about the EPA ratings as I live in Europe. But I care about the accuracy of the facts.

John Hollenberg

I have to click on the article to find out that 301 miles is not the EPA rating. What a waste of time.

earl colby pottinger

Really, I saw the title and thought they meant 301 miles EPA, I came here to post that Tesla now has real competition only to find that is not the case.

Post the EPA mileage as just numbers, but if it is one of the more forgiving tests – MAKE IT CLEAR – stop wasting our time.

Mr. M

wltp is more strict than nedc

YVES LAURIN

Do you have to be so abrasive, There is a lot of good information here and it is available for free.
IF you think that InsideEvs is wasting your time, you can always do your own research, then come back and tell us how many hours you save doing your own research.

Newmexican

I think the issue is not that our time is wasted. The issue is that we deserve close to real life information on range. EPA is the only one that meets that spec reasonably. No EV publication should even accept any other information anymore. Hold them to the truth or do not publish them!

Terawatt

Narrow-minded American perspective. The truth is that milage varies, and the closest to “typical” consumption (and thus range) differs systematically between markets. In Europe people on average drive less at highway speeds than in the US, and typical range is a bit higher. For the rest of the world, even more so.

EPA is a US-centric choice. WLTP is global thinking.

antrik

Except that city range doesn’t really matter; while highway speeds in Europe are often higher than in the US — so WLTP is actually even *less* useful in many parts of Europe.

Rightofthepeople

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Davek

Not sure why all of those Liberian flags are relevant, but sure, why not. Go Liberia!

antrik

And it’s not the first time it’s been pointed out… Along with various other incidents of this kind, it makes it increasingly hard for me to believe when InsideEVs staff claim that they aren’t using deceptive titles intentionally 🙁

Terawatt

So you already knew the 301-mile rated range is WLTP. I guess you just like to complain?

vich

Next will be clickbait headlines e.g.
KIA is releasing an EV and you won’t believe the range!!!
KIA’s latest EV had analysts jaw drop!!!!
etc etc

R.S

Yea, but that’s the business. As long as we won’t pay for articles, journalists will have to have interesting headlines…

Indiseevs doesn’t have clickbait articles yet, unless you count Evannex‘s „top 5 reasons why you should love Elon Musk“

And since it is only WLTP rated and they wanted to say the longer range version is going to be that cheap and they mentioned a guessed EPA range in the text, I‘ll give them a pass.

Better than if they add an „insideevs opinion“ portion.

Terawatt

Why should EPA automatically be preferred? This site addresses a global audience. WLTP if anything is the more natural choice for a default standard!

antrik

Because it’s a more useful measure, as others have already pointed out. Just because WLTP claims “world” in the name, doesn’t mean it’s actually more relevant. As part of the global audience, I still want to see EPA numbers as default, not useless WLTP.

(I *do* wish we’d more often see non-antique units of measure, though 😉 )

Bloggin

I think it’s a mistake for the ICE manufactutrers to make their first efforts into EVs with the most aerodynamically ineffecient body styles, offering the worst driving dynamics and reduced range, when it is RANGE that is king with early EV adoption. Forgettign that many buy suvs because gas is cheap, and when there is a price increase, SUV sales drop dramatically. Then also the attrition rage for return suv buyers is growing. Since many who bought one not needed a taller, clumbsy suv, want something more fun to drive next.

I hope Kia does a better job with their version of the ICON styling so it’s not so bland, and it can become an option.

menorman

They’re going for the segment that people are actually buying. I don’t see a problem with that at all.

pjwood1

Tesla went for the segment making sense: luxury touring. The rest want the aero-image, of city only, to relegate EVs into a box.

Otherwise, this thing is a #RAV4Killer.

And Bloggin, Hope you aren’t agreeing ~$3 Gas is “cheap”. Trump was yapping at OPEC, this morning.

Speculawyer

Iran sanctions start in earnest on November 4th (gee, so funny that they waited until it was too late to really effect the elections) and oil prices have been creeping up.

Lawrence

I’m not confident that people cross shop Tesla’s with Kia’s. Totally different demographics as you are implying. Kia is know for making the cheapest cars that you can buy with a 580 FICO score. A $40K Kia is already way past affordability for their average customer. The average income of a Tesla Model 3 buyer is already three times higher than the average Kia customer.

Doggydogworld

People waiting for 35k+color/wheel Model 3s would definitely cross-shop the Kia Niro, especially with the full 7500 credit. Of course this assumes the Niro is actually available to buy.

Lawrence

I get what you’re saying, but that’s not really cross shopping. Kia happened to created a product to fit within the budget of the disillusioned $35k Tesla waiter. By the time the Niro EV is widely available, the $35k Model 3 will be $35k because there will be no Tax credits left. Truth be known, the POTENTIAL $35k Model 3 buyers were never really in the former price bracket of $35k, they were really in the sub $29k price bracket because they believe that they would get the full tax credit. These buyers are going to buy the Kia because it’s the EV that they can afford, not because they were cross shopping the two.

Dan F.

By the standards of the rich democracies $3 gasoline (more like $3.7 here in Calif.) is super cheap. To make a real reduction in CO2 emissions we need a carbon tax and significantly more expensive fossil fuels.

Mr. M

$3 gas is far too cheap. To really get people into more efficient cars we should have 10-15$/ gallon (~3€/l) or more.

Lawrence

Even IF car sales were to dwindle to 30% of the market, that’s still a huge market considering that EV’s are such a small segment of overall sales. People are still buying cars and the #1 question consumers ask when it comes to EV’s is “what is the range?”. #2 is “Why would I buy that if it’s so much more expensive than the regular (gas) model?”. Best to keep the range as high as possible and the cost down. An ‘SUV’ type EV with it’s flaws due to physics works against that. We’re talking about the lower end of the income demographics here. You need a bigger battery for the same range which also means more cost.

Dan F.

Now, just let’s hope that we in the U.S. actually can buy it and that it does not end up like the Ioniq. I have a leased PHEV and would like to buy this car when my lease ends next July. Here’s hoping!!!!

Ron Swanson's Mustache

260 miles of range at under $40k in a CUV form factor is an impressive feat. Frankly, I’m shocked to see such a vehicle come from, of all places, Kia.

Speculawyer

Yeah, this was kind of out of left field for me too. Though I haven’t been following them closely.

Lou Grinzo

I don’t find it surprising at all. Of the legacy car companies, Hyundai/Kia are perfectly positioned to leap on EVs. They don’t have huge sales volumes of ICE vehicles to protect, and it gives them a chance to make serious inroads into higher priced cars and steal sales from Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota, et al.

We talk a lot here about the impact Tesla is having on the luxury brands in terms of stealing sales and pushing them into EVs. H/K has a chance to do the same thing to the non-luxury brands at a lower price point.

The number one thing I want to see is a LOT of people driving on electrons and cruising by gas stations. The issue of which companies sell those EVs is secondary to me. The best thing right now is for some company to push the foot draggers into getting serious about EVs. If that’s H/K, great. If it’s someone else, like Tesla finally producing their $35k 3, then that’s great, too.

wavelet

“They don’t have huge sales volumes of ICE vehicles to protect”
Bzzt, not true. Hyundai/Kia sells 50% more vehicles/year globally than Honda, 50% more than Fiat/Chrysler/Jeep 4.5x the number for Mazda, 2x the number of PSA (incl. Opel & Vauxhall) . They are _not_ a small carmaker by any measure. There are countries (and not just Korea) where they are the #1 best-selling brand.

Lawrence

“CUV form factor” is that fancy talk for hatchback? That’s what we call a car like a Niro around here.

antrik

No, it’s fancy talk for a car that has a higher body / more upright seating position, and higher ride height, than a traditional hatchback. Got any better term for that?

vdiv

Remember the Honda Civic Wagovan? It was also known as the “Shuttle” in other markets. I like that name 🙂

Lawrence

Upright seating position …. the car probably shares the same seats as a cars made by Kia. They don’t look any different. The Kia Niro is 60″ inches in height. The Kia Rio is 57″ in height. I guess to some, 3″ inches in height in enough to make it an entirely different world of a vehicle. To most, it’s just a variation.

Troy

back in the 80s we had ‘station wagons’ but they weren’t hatchbacks, which were a different thing.

today, CUVs are as if an SUV and a hatchback had a baby together.

Lawrence

More accurately, all of the great grand parents were hatchbacks except one. Far more a hatchback with a little pinch of SUV in there, be that plastic cladding and a little taller suspension.

Troy

I drove next to a 2018 Nissan Rogue today and saw how much design proportions it shared with the Leaf. Nissan could pop in a LG powertrain into it trivially easy, much like the Toyoto Rav4 EV.

Keeping the Leaf as a 40-50kWh town car and the 50-60kWh variants in ‘real’ cars would make too much sense tho.

(I think 50kWh is a perfectly acceptable minimum going forward, more than that and you get into diminishing returns territory for many people)

Jason

2018 Leaf, with 40kWh battery, seems to hit the right balance for a majority of people. Really, the thing letting it down is lack of active thermal management. Driving a full day using CHAdeMO every couple of hours should be no problem. But because the battery over heats, then the charging rate goes into limp mode, it becomes virtually useless in that scenario. It’s a real shame, because otherwise it seems to be priced at the right level and has the utility many people are looking for.

Speculawyer

I agree in principle but this one isn’t too bad. They closed up the grille and it is pretty low slung. It’s not Tesla scale good aerodynamics but it is much better than that bulky Mercedes EQC.

Prsnep

Do you know EQC’s drag coefficient? I think you’re assuming here a little. Aerodynamics are more complicated than meets the eye. Historically, Mercedes has made some of the most aerodynamic cars. I see no reason for this to change.

Jason

Based on battery size and range it would appear EQC is worse than Niro. Hyundai do have pretty efficient EV’s. MB are yet to prove how good an EV they can make, but 95kWh to go 250mi (or maybe less) indicates the vehicle is either super heavy or very poor aerodynamics. Consider the Model X goes 237mi on 75kWh battery, and that’s considered the biggest EV available.

MTN Ranger

Autocar UK say EQC aero is less than .30, Niro is .29. EQC is more low slung than the Niro:

Mercedes EQC 187″ L 74″ W 52″ H
Kia Niro 172″ L x 71″ W x 60″ H

Speculawyer

I am ready to eat crow if I am wrong. I’m just going by photos. I think Cd and frontal area should become required stats on the EPA Mulroney sticker.

Dan F.

The EQC is way more than 52″ high. Did you mean 62?

ffbj

It looks pretty good, but can you get one anytime soon. I think one reason is they are not all Gung-Ho on getting the word out to get these cars to people, is that they are not ready to release it fully, for a variety of reasons. One of which could be that they don’t want to cut into current sales of their phev version.

Gabriel Rheault

most of electric car in canada have a wait of 3 month. To this point, i don’t mind to wait 1 more month to get a car under 40k that do that amoung of km with one charge

earl colby pottinger

Think a year if you are thinking of getting a GM Bolt.

TheCyberKnight

Not true. Bolt’s can be obtained well within 3 months.
Ordered mine in late June, got it in early September. It’s a MY 2019.

Dan F.

I think Hyundai/Kia are battery constrained at this point.

Jason

I think everyone except Nissan and Tesla are battery constrained. Until LG Chem and other 3rd party suppliers can ramp up production you have every manufacturer competing for their batteries. If anything, those battery companies should be in a sweet place as they can actually set their battery prices higher due to the competing auto manufacturers. Sell their battery capacity to the highest bidder!
Nissan will most likely join them as they have sold their battery business, at this point in time who knows why they would have done that? Conspiracy theory, maybe they really don’t want to sell EV’s, which I think makes sense given they have not introduce any new EV since the Leaf, 8yrs and the EV has not really progressed with them. Not a good sign, really.

Texas Leaf

I’ll get excited when and if they start being sold in Texas.

John

Too bad it will be like the Soul. Only available in limited numbers in California.

menorman

The Soul EV is available nationwide and even non-CARB state dealerships stock it.

Spoonman.

No it isn’t – it certainly isn’t available in Pennsylvania.

Viking79

Not really, I think you can order one, but I don’t really consider that available.

Ziv

There are a whopping 20 Kia Soul EV’s on Cars dot com.
That is special order only territory, which usually means, “Be patient. We may get to you eventually.” Too bad, Kia seem be making decent BEV’s, if you can buy one.

Lou Grinzo

That’s likely an artifact of Kia running down stock before the new version arrives.

Leptoquark

True in principle. I leased my 2016 Soul EV in Maryland, one of the ZEV states. A quick check of dealer inventory shows some ’18’s in MD and NJ
https://www.kia.com/us/en/dealers/inventory/soul-ev/2018/20906

marshall

There is a difference between a CARB state and a ZEV state. Washington state is a CARB state, but not a ZEV state. As such there is no ZEV credit for sales in Washington state.

However, you can buy or lease a Soul EV in Washington state.

Electric Soul

i bought one in NJ in Nov ’17. Only a few dealers in the state have them. NJ is a CARB State and PA is not, i think, so, more than CA- only, but less than 50 states. The soulEV is a Fun car, love it, but am also looking forward to a longer range option like this Niro.

Electric Soul

Sorry, i know there is a difference between CARB and ZEV states, but i don’t know which category NJ is in off-hand.

Troy

I wonder how many powertrains LG can make for Kia, Hyundai, & Nissan . . . 100/day??

main deal I see is the manufacturers will have no great desire to ship to the USA when they can make more profit in the more ‘northern’ (and TBH wealthier) markets.

64kwH @ £28,000 translates to USD $37,000, $10,000 more than the dickered-down price of my 2018 Leaf.

$10,000 can pay for a lot of car rentals from Enterprise, though I should factor in that ~half of the difference would be recouped on resale.

Marcel

This is what I do with my 2017 Leaf. The very reasonable lease + rentals is still cheaper than a new long range EV.

antrik

Keep in mind that EU prices always include ~20% VAT. Unless they put a significant premium on it, the US price should be quite a bit lower.

antrik

Gah, sorry, didn’t read the table properly 🙁

Marcel

So the 39kwh version is the same as the PHEV? I’ve been wondering when this is going to happen, since BEVs should be less once battery prices drop enough. The extra 30 kWh of battery should cost $6000 or less now, and pack costs will be similar, since the PHEV already has a pack, but the PHEV has an ICE and a transmission and fuel and exhaust systems, so the BEV should be easier to manufacture.

The 39 kWh is a good size and should be very practical for many people, it’ll be very interesting to see what the ratio of sales are for 39 vs 64.

antrik

$200 per kWh was common in 2016; I’m pretty sure they are paying less for a product introduced in 2018…

The £2,600 difference between the 39 kWh and the 64 kWh version would suggest $138 per kWh; which in turn means 30 kWh would be $4,140.

(This calculation isn’t exact, since the EV version likely has a stronger motor?…)

Still, there is no way $4,140 covers the difference in ICE components. I read that as an indication that they are selling the EV version at a loss, i.e. that it will be just another low-volume compliance car — as expected 🙁

Doggydogworld

PHEV battery costs more per kWh due to higher C rate and much higher cycle life requirement.

A Toyota exec said recently a 100 mile BEV basically cost the same to build as a hybrid, and Toyota is not what you’d call pro-BEV.

antrik

The cycle life requirement is fulfilled mostly by reducing the available capacity; while the calculations are based on the nominal capacity. (At least I assume so — haven’t actually checked the 30 kWh difference claim from the parent comment…)

Agree on PHEV batteries being more expensive because of higher C-rate — but I don’t think that would change the calculation significantly…

At any rate, a 100 mile BEV costing the same as a PHEV sounds about right to me 🙂

Rolando

The 64 KWh battery has a stronger motor than the 39 KWh version, so the difference is not only from the battery, but also bigger motor & controller.

antrik

It has more power, because of the bigger battery. I’m not sure it actually has a stronger motor at all, or just runs the same motor with more power.

Even if it’s indeed a different motor, the cost difference wouldn’t be large. Unlike with combustion engines, the price premium for more powerful electric motors is fairly small.

Jason

Is it really a different motor, though? Nissan 24kWh and 30kWh Leaf has an 80kW motor. The 40kWh Leaf has a 110kWh motor. As far as I can tell it is the same motor, just the 40kWh Leaf can give it more juice so it can run harder. Could be the same situation in these other EV’s.

wavelet

PLEASE, PLEASE…
When converting a UK (or any other country with VAT) consumer price to an equivalent US price, you should ***ALWAYS*** deduct the VAT, since US prices are always quoted without sales tax(es).
People have commented on this numerous times about numerous articles, and it should be standard editorial policy, as it is in many other publications. Doing anything else is misleading.

antrik

~£30,000 is the price of the SE trim *without* VAT. The ~£25,000 price for the PHEV variant they used as base for the “conversion” is also without VAT.

Davek

For all of the American readers, 64 kWh is 218377 BTUs.
For the rest of the world, 301 miles is 485 km.

Ron Swanson's Mustache

My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that’s the way I likes it!

TomArt

LOL – thanks, that brightened my mood!

Davek

HAHAHA XD

james

Blame Reagan. We tried to go metric and now nobody has the guts to try again.

Ziv

The metrification of America was DOA before Reagan got into office. He merely disposed of the corpse. If Carter had been a bit more effective it might have gotten further, but Carter couldn’t lead 6 feet of string around the block without tripping over it. LBJ or Nixon could have done it, but not Carter. And once it died, most Americans were like, “Good riddance to bad rubbish.”

vdiv

The irony of the US still using Imperial units of an Empire that is no more, and of their heirs, both island and colonial that no longer use it is hard to ignore.

Ziv

The thing that makes it tough for the US to shift is that most of us simply don’t live close to a country that uses the metric system. I was 17 before I saw/heard someone speak on a telephone in a language other than english. Can you imagine someone saying that hadn’t heard a different language than their own in any other country other than the US, Russia or China?

vdiv

Well, the auto industry did shift while the US was still the dominant player, so it is possible. It is also possible to shift some units such as temperature (water freeze and boil) and volume (2L soda bottle), while leaving distance. It starts by using both, by better education, particularly with embracing decimal fractions and negative numbers, and by sticking with it.

Davek

Just so you know, 35 million Canadians and 128 million Mexicans are rolling their eyes so hard it hurts right about now 😉

And yes, I know the metrification of Canada is far from perfect or complete, but I’d say that’s mostly down to the elephant it’s sleeping with.

Davek

Also basically the entire automotive sector is already metric, including all significant American manufacturers.

antrik

China? There are dozens of languages in China. (Even though only a few are officially acknowledged as distinct languages…)

In some parts of southern China, you might happen upon a different language by going to a neighbouring valley…

TomArt

I’m beginning to be somewhat familiar with mm, cm, and meters (it helps that a meter is only a little longer than a yard), but km still messes me up. I know what a mile is, but I don’t have a good feel for metric units.

A liter is starting to make sense to me, since it is just slightly bigger than a quart. I have yet to see a gas station that included liters as a unit of measure.

I was born in ’78, so Imperial was still the standard for everything. The addition of the km scale on speedometers didn’t start showing up routinely until the ’00s. Rulers and tape measures didn’t routinely include metric scales until the late 90s.

High school physics and college engineering courses all used metric, so I know all the units and whatnot. However, and this is the important part, metric was never used in my own life (measuring things, weighing things, etc.), so I don’t have a good, solid, natural “feel” for them. I have to do the conversion in my head in order to appreciate the significance of a metric measurement.

TomArt

Btu! That’s funny – I had forgotten about that unit! The only consumer product that still uses Btu’s as a comparison metric is air conditioners. EV battery pack energy (at least since the introduction of the Roadster) has always been reported in kWh.

Mr. M

ships use BTU too

Michael

I’ve always discussed fuel efficiency in tablespoons per furlong.

Will

That’s with VAT or without VAT

William

In the US, when comparing 200 mi.+ EVs next year in the 2H of 2019, the legacy ICE OEMs, that still have the full Fed $7.5k tax break still available, will be finally competing in the $35-40k segment. I think between Hyundai/Kia and Nisssan, they will sell all that their and LG Chem battery supplier can produce.

Where does the Chevy Bolt fit in, when it drops its full $7.5k credit? Does it get a $3-4 k price drop, in trying to keep competitive to its LG Chem brethren?

earl colby pottinger

But Lutz claims they are already losing money, can they handle another 3-4K loss?

F150 Brian

Loss is an accounting thing. If they write off all of the initial R&D for the platform against the first gen Bolt then of course they will lose money on each one.
It’s more important to consider the gross margin (sales revenue – cost to manufacture) / sales revenue.
I can’t imagine how they couldn’t in the black from a gross margin standpoint.
The real question is: Can on-going cost reductions stay ahead of (reduction in tax credits + discounts)?

james

It’s nice to always mention the current tax credit, but recall a) not everyone has a tax liability to get the full credit (with other deductions) b) the credit is only good in the year earned and doesn’t carry over. c) sales taxes vary state to state and in Texas is 6.25% for cars.

I agree just drop taxes but mention they need to be considered & US tax credit may not apply to you and is gone for Tesla after Dec 2019.

Benz

The US price for both the Hyundai Kona Electric and the Kia Niro EV will be set to compete with the Chevrolet Bolt EV. That means that they both will be priced to be more affordable than the Chevrolet Bolt EV. More car for (slightly) less money. Probably about $35,000.- ?

Viking79

They aren’t really more car…

Benz

Let’s ask Inside EV’s staff to make a judgement on that.

VTLeaf

Yes they are! 100kW charging, more cargo space, better interiors (at least in the Niro), built-in Nav, and longer range — and I say all this as someone who just bought a Bolt and really likes it.

Viking79

There are advantages to the Kona, but saying it is outright “more car” needs some justification is what I am saying. I think some dislike GM such they don’t even consider them, which is a bit unfortunate.

Mark.ca

Styling alone will make me look at these before the Bolt.

Michael

It’s reasonable to dislike their actions and as a result to let that opinion inform whether to trust them with our buying dollars. My first five cars were GMs. And those were the last five cars I suspect I’ll be buying from GM.

MTN Ranger

I consider built-in NAV to be a negative. Kona has less cargo and much smaller rear seat than the Bolt EV. Better interiors are personal preference, but the Kona is full of hard plastics too. The only thing I give to Kia/Hyundai is better seats, faster charging and slightly longer range. Otherwise some people may choose the Bolt EV on surround view, video rear mirror, superior performance.

VTLeaf

Kona cargo capacity = 19.2 cubic feet (https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2019-hyundai-kona-ev-preview/), Bolt = 16.9 cubic feet (source: I own one). You are correct that Bolt’s back seat space is better, which is IMO why Niro >> Kona for those of us with kids. I’ve test-driven the Niro (hybrid and PHEV) and find its conventional-yet-competent interior preferable to the oddity that is the Bolt (and I have the Premier trim Bolt).

If you don’t like built-in NAV, Kia/Hyundai still have Carplay.

The surround view and video mirror on the Bolt are great, no doubt. Niro and Kona offer sunroofs — once you get to this level of detail sure each car is going to have advantages. If the Niro EV comes to the US in unexpectedly-large quantities I’ll offer you my Bolt:)

Re-Volted

Do you really think the Niro and or Kona is more car than the Bolt? All things considered I don’t.
I would say closest competition though.

Jim

There goes the Pisla stock price. Thank God it doesn’t look like an Electrified Ford Taurus/Fusion.

Harold T

This car is the new benchmark for EV. Kia is leading the way. With little doubt, 2020 Niro EV will replace my Soul EV+ unless the Soul gets a big boost. No other manufacturer is putting out this functionality, range, and price value point today or even by 2020 form what I see. Well Done Kia.

Viking79

The Bolt EV has been hitting this point for a couple years, but people seem to ignore that fact.

Marcel

The Bolt has far less useable cargo space. The Niro can fit a family sized load of groceries with seats up, or a 100cm x 160cm flat pack with seats down. For people with kids the Bolt doesn’t work nearly as well as a Niro. It is a bench mark for all around practicality.

Viking79

You realize the cargo volume is about the same between the two?

Brian D

I don’t know where this rumor started, but it’s plain wrong. According to Electrek, the Niro EV has 451 litres of cargo capacity. That’s 15.9 cu ft. The Bolt has 16.9 cu ft. Rear seat dimensions between the two are within an inch of each other. I think people are using the Niro PHEV data, not the Niro Electric data, and there is obviously a difference in cargo capacity due to battery pack size.

Dan F.

For it to count at all here (the U.S.) they have to bring them in real numbers. The Niro sounds great ; availability date and quantity questionable.

Speculawyer

Woah! Now Tesla has some real competition in the broader market.

Murrysville EV

Not really. If Kia only produces a few hundred a month, Tesla has nothing to fear – no matter how good this car is.

Mark.ca

That’s the problem!

Murrysville EV

I currently have two Kias in my driveway, and I would add this one if I could. But Kia isn’t serious about the EV market, so getting on here in PA is just a dream, even with its long range and low price.

Adoreizi

Do they hold up over time?

Leptoquark

My 2016 Soul EV has held up well, as far as tightness and ruggedness. I had to replace the 12V, but only because I had the back door open often when I was showing it at public events, and the light back there doesn’t have a switch and it’s incandescent. Also, if you have the L1 connector plugged in without being plugged into 110V, it uses the 12V (looking for the pilot signal?). Bottom line, it’s held up well.

Murrysville EV

09 Sedona – former rental car, bought it in 2010 with 18k on it, now has 119k on it. Only major issue was the throttle position sensor had to be replaced with a newer version, which included an ECU reflash. Out of warrranty, so it cost me $700.

13 Optima Hybrid – 76k miles, no problems, except one axle was replaced under warranty.

Mark.ca

“no problems, except one axle was replaced under warranty.”
LOL….if that was not a problem then why didn’t you drive on one axle?

VTLeaf

Kia and Hyundai are both climbing towards the top of reliability rankings. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

Leptoquark

Do we have an estimate of US availability?

antrik

“Expected availability in winter 2018 in select markets”

Dan F.

Wait, we need to travel back in time to get one, maybe winter 2019.

antrik

I think it’s safe to assume they mean December 2018, not January/February 2018…

Speculawyer

That range number is quite questionable but if they can deliver a car with 200+ EPA mile range in the $30K range (and in $20K range after tax-credit) then it will KIA, not Tesla, that will blow the EV market wide open into the mainstream.

Still a lot of questions…for example, how fast can it DC-fast-charge? The 54KW maximum of the Bolt is an achilles heel IMHO. I hope the KIA can do >100KW or at least near that. Go, KIA, GO! The Korean company with a surprise attack….I was worried that they were too much into the fuel cell cars like Toyota & Honda.

DL

I don’t know, the battery mass advances have been so frustrating. Tesla-Panasonic are said to have the largest capacity to produce those, and they still can’t saturate even the premium segment, let alone the mainstream one. What’s the point of spec-price if it can’t be mass-produced.

Alex

Bjørn Nyland tested the Niro – for range and charging speed also.
From his review Niro was able to reach 70KW charging during some period, but the average – even from 10 to 80% was a lot less than that.
Please have in mind that 70KW with a 54kWh Niro is like a Tesla 100 charging at 110KW (applying the ratio between the capacity of battery packs) .

Range should be ok, the car seems efficient.

Kbm3

No one cares about ratios. They care about how much driving distance they gain for time spent charging.

Alex

It’s about the same as the ratio of capacity, as the Niro is smaller and more efficient :).

antrik

Niro won’t “blow open the EV market”, since just like the IONIQ, it seems to be a compliance car that’s being sold at a loss in low volumes. The price is a reflection of what they think they need to sell it at to fulfil mandates, not a reflection of actual costs. If they wanted to sell it in volumes, they’d have to raise the price to meet costs.

The real trick is selling EVs *profitably* at a low price. Still looks like Tesla will have a lead there for now, assuming they actually start selling base Model 3 soonish…

vdiv

“We’ll see”, sez the Zen-Master. Unlike the Ioniq, the Niro is not a compact, ugly-looking econobox with half the range, it is a crossover that sells in numbers throughout the US for the fossil versions.

zzzzzzzzzz

All Tesla profits are with negative sign. In human language they are called “losses”. So Tesla proves your point actually, there is mismatch between actual cost and what mass market is ready to pay.

Financially illiterate fanboys can keep talking about gross profit margin.

antrik

Financially illiterate trolls keep failing to understand difference between losses and investments.

Michael

They’d have to commit to making enough of them to matter for that to be true.

MN Electric

Please stop saying 301 miles of range! Confusing and not accurate for U.S.-based readers, and really just misleading.

vdiv

Kia sez they are targeting 240 miles in the US. Our miles weigh more, need extra energy to move 😉

Michael

‘merica!

Mark.ca

“Our miles weigh more”
Something weights more alright…not the miles….

antrik

The title makes it sound like it was official, when it’s actually just an educated guess.

Mr. M

301 miles WLTP is not a guess, EPA was guessed since its not yet released.

antrik

This article is about the price, not about the range.

(Although the misleading title admittedly can make people think otherwise…)

Lawrence

It’s not considerably different or better than a Bolt on specs and features. I took my mother to see the Niro Hybrid because she was interested in it and boy if the interior of this is as bad as that, the Bolt has nothing to worry about, even with its front seat issues (which they said that they have resolved).

VTLeaf

I’ve test driven the Niro hybrid and PHEV, and own a Bolt, and prefer the Niro’s interior by quite a lot. That’s with the leather ‘Premier’ Bolt trim — I wasn’t touching their gross multi-color fabric seats. There’s no official indication from Chevy that they’ve done anything to change the Bolt seats — just an internet rumor a couple of weeks ago. (I own a ’17 Bolt and find the seat comfort fine, but body build seems to matter a lot in people’s experiences).

antrik

The “internet rumours” have been confirmed by a Chevy engineer. (Though with the clarification that the changes already happened in the 2018 version, not the 2019 one.)

VTLeaf

That was the rumor. Not confirmed, or noticed by Bolt owners who have compared.

Michael

Is that $40,000 WLTP or EPA?

Mr. M

😀

Benz

@ InsideEVs staff

Question:

Will the Kia Niro EV be made available in China as well?

That should be their primary market, if Kia would want to grab some substantial EV marketshare.

antrik

I doubt that. In this price class, having no access to subsidies means zero sales. They’d have to create a made-in-China variant for that.

newpolaris

Niro EV and Kona EV are popular in Korea. And in very limited production until now.

In the Korean news article,

“Kona Electric, who had been making advance reservations in January, is now in the process of delivering customers, and Niro EV’s preliminary reservations, which began reserving in February, exceeded production this year. The possible delivery time for Niro EV’s customers is not yet determined. Consumers who want to buy Kona Electric now need to pledge next year or later.”

Benz

Has Hyundai announced any plans to ramp up production of the Hyundai Kona Electric?

newpolaris

Not yet, battery supply problems are continuing since 2017. Because hyundai and Kia are just some of the battery buyers. And they also share battery with hybrid.

Gator Rican

This is awesome news!!!!*

*Awesomeness only applies to those who live in states** where this vehicle will be available in limited quantities

**states = state (i.e. 1 of 50)

Dan F.

And if like the Ioniq only the big city in the south. I hope it gets up here to Tesla land; I like it.

Tom

Here’s an interesting tidbit I just saw on Kia’s site. The 2019 has 6.8 inches of ground clearance (except FE) and the 2018 is 6.3. My PHEV 2018 is 6.3 too. I was deciding whether to wait for the 2019 and pulled the trigger on the 2018. I could use all the ground clearance I can get. Live off the beaten path in coldville. The extra weight of the PHEV battery along with the narrow 16 in wheels should make good snow mobility though. My brother’s Volt is a beast in the snow. AWD is kind of overrated as long we you have the correct tires and some good weight on a FWD vehicle. I’m going to purchase a complete set of wheels/dedicated snow tires. 6.3 isn’t much but it’s an inch more than the car it replaces.

Dan F.

Unfortunately it’s a front drive car and the battery is in the way back.

Jason

It took four entire half paragraphs to see the EPA rating.

Whopty doooo.

Andree

The niro has allready been tested and can do 300 miles easily

M3 Owned- Niro EV TBD - Former 500e and Spark EV,

The top trim Niro EV will probably be just around 40K IMHO to price compete against itself after rebates/incentives.

Hybrid EX-Touring sells for about 28k.
PHEV Ex-Prem is about 35k.
EV Ex-top trim will price out about 40k. otherwise folk will simply move over to the PHEV

Ed Gullo

I’m wonder if US the trade war with China will affect the price in the states…Any Chinese content?
Also…enjoy the $7500 tax break while it lasts. The president administration and congress are not fond of it.

Kieran973

So the “news” in this article is that Inside EV’s has decided to guess the price of the Niro EV? Increasingly, this site seems to publish rumors and guesses as if they’re news, and I’m not sure why. Don’t get me wrong, I think this is a useful site, and I come here often to try and get information about upcoming EVs. But I also feel like, if there’s no actual news about pricing for the Niro EV at the moment, just don’t publish anything, rather than writing an article purely based on guessing. Also, just because a car is priced in the UK at a certain amount doesn’t mean you can simply convert pounds to dollars and assume it will cost that much in the US. The US and the UK are totally different markets and they have totally different government incentives and regulations (the UK taxes carbon for example). Witness the Ioniq PHEV and EV – their UK prices are significantly different from their US prices.

Rustin Haase

This seems like a good EV but the name is HORRIBLE. Niro sounds way to much like Nero who was a monster of a man, kiling and destroying vastly just to feed his ego. They should go with much better names like Kia Stalun, Kia Ma-Oh or Kia Hilter.