By This July, Volkswagen Will Know If Breakthrough Battery Tech At QuantumScape Is Ready For Primetime

MAY 4 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 22

Volkswagen Golf GTE - battery pack

Volkswagen Golf GTE – battery pack

Volkswagen Group's Electrified Vehicle Offerings

Volkswagen Group’s Electrified Vehicle Offerings

By this July, Volkswagen intends to make an important decision regarding its future battery technology.

VW, a 5% stakeholder in QuantumScape, says that it’ll evaluate the battery maker’s progress before determining how to proceed.  Quoting Bloomberg:

The technology’s potential to boost the range of battery-powered vehicles is compelling and tests are progressing, VW Chief Executive Officer Martin Winterkorn said outside a press conference in Stuttgart, Germany, on Tuesday.

“I was there last year,” Winterkorn said. “Progress has been made,” and the company will be able to determine how to proceed by July.

QuantumScape’s focus is on solid-state battery technology.  If Volkswagen is convinced that QuantumScape can deliver on its promises, then it’s likely the automaker will increase it share of ownership in the company.

Volkswagen is hoping to use QuantumScape batteries in future VW, Aud and Porsche models.

Per Bloomberg:

“Winterkorn said in November that he sees “great potential” in the new power-storage technology, which may expand an electric vehicle’s driving distance between recharges to as much as 700 kilometers (430 miles). That’s more than three times the range of the battery-powered version of the VW Golf.”

Source: Bloomberg

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22 Comments on "By This July, Volkswagen Will Know If Breakthrough Battery Tech At QuantumScape Is Ready For Primetime"

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I wish them all the luck in the world but they still a factory or many of them to make these batteries.

Have you seen VW’s annual budgets? They can build 2-3 large battery plants in parallel and not break a sweat.

VW has one of the biggest R&D budgets of any company worldwide:

http://www.strategyand.pwc.com/global/home/what-we-think/global-innovation-1000/top-20-rd-spenders-2013

Yeah, with all the news lately about how much Tesla’s Gigafactory is costing them, I too often lose sight of the fact that Tesla is a new company with a limited investment budget. It’s easy to forget that a huge company with lots of cash, such as VW, could easily build a Gigafactory if they saw the need / market to do so.

Personally, I’m hoping that VW finds some battery that pushes the eGolf up to the ~200 mile range, along with the Leaf 2.0, Tesla Model III, and the Bolt. Of the 4 of those cars, the eGolf would be at the top of my list. For me, it would just edge out the Model III’s supercharging network since it is backed by a company with a solid future (if Tesla goes under 10 years from now, what will happen to their cars/superchargers?).

Tesla will not go down.

VW will indeed soon invest more money in battery technology, and battery production.

I’m glad you are that confident in the long-term viability of Tesla. I don’t believe that they will go down, but I am more confident in VW than Tesla. Besides, their stated goal is to spur the majors into building compelling EVs, not necessarily to become a major automaker themselves.

Tesla is here for many more years to come. In case of any financial difficulties, Elon’s Google friends will step in buy it or in the worst case, another car company will.

I am more confident Tesla will be marketing vehicles in the USA in 2025 than VW.

VW “could” build three simultaneous Gigafactories.

So “could” Toyota and GM.

They call “could have” built the Model S circa 2008.

“Could” is bovine feces.

“Do” is what matters.

In this market you could have 10 Tesla’s to do the energy conversion to EV’s and Batteries, and not break a sweat.

Winterkorn must be ecstatic that Piech has stepped down. That was a major development in things, VW, Audi, Porsche.

Oh the weekly battery breakthrough bushii…

Superman Battery story has several major common themes to it. The battery is experimental or was drawn up in a lab and we are looking in to it. The next thing is they do have a working model but they plan to pop it into cell phones first. Or that they have the battery but need money to build a factory.

All of these stories have one thing in common there is no battery to pop open the hood of a EV and drop it in.

In till some clown has a battery that I can physically get seen put into a electric car I will care.

You are right that the process is theoretical paper > lab experiment > production-ish environment > investment in a factory > actual cells. At each stage in this game, there is a down-selection of options. However, each progressive stage is more mature than the previous, and more likely to make it to production.

The only way we know what might come down the line is to look at what is in the pipeline today. Yes, it’s anything but certain. But if you really don’t want to read about it, then don’t click on the article.

Has not the VW followed the EEStor Saga???

No. The solid state battery is tech already researched by Standford University. The only question is if Quantumscape can succeed in commercializing the tech. That is, whether or not they can scale up the manufacturing, and make it cheaply enough to compete with the current price of li-ion batteries.

But that’s a very big “if”. We’ve seen scores of announcements of breakthru battery achievements in the lab, over the past several years. Not one of them, so far, has been commercialized. It seems inevitable that sooner or later, one or more of them will be. But until some company demonstrates they can commercialize the tech, it remains a hope and not a promise.

I failed to directly address the point about EEStor. That was a “startup” working out of an office in a strip mall, a wild claim from a lone inventor for two orders of magnitude improvement in energy density, a claim utterly dismissed by nearly every expert in the field, and the few who didn’t dismiss it out of hand were still highly skeptical. Very notably, EEStor consistently refused to give a demonstration of their technology, even to investors!

The claim for the tech Quantumscape is using is much more solid.

long live eestor.

http://www.eestor.us

430 miles would be 5x the 83 miles rated for the egolf. If i drive careful in warm weather, I can get 100

Ron

Not so fast. The number was given in kilometers, so we should probably assume the NEDC cycle is being quoted. The current eGolf gets 190km, and this would get 700? That’s 3.7x the range. If the EPA range scales the same (and that’s a big if), it would be about 300miles. That’s still impressive, but we need to make sure we’re comparing apples-to-apples whenever we talk about range.

I thought the e-Golf was one of the better EV’s when I drove it recently. Not as much fun as an i3, but more practical and a lot cheaper.

I’m VW. I don’t have a long range EV offering and the only 200 mile or more model I currently plan to offer is even more expensive than the most expensive offering from Tesla.
I see Chevy talking about the 200 mile Bolt, Nissan hinting at a double range LEAF, and Tesla saying 2017 for an affordable model. I need something to slow buyers for a few years…

+1

I have an eGolf and 200km daily use is perfect. Charging @home is easy and an over-night thing. When reading about 500-700km batteries I’m always wondering about the charging network. Tesla understands that you need the network to fast-charge your car when you are traveling long distance. If that is not available I wouldn’t go for a 700km battery. Long story short it’s not about the battery it’s about the charging network – stupid ;-).