3 Ways In Which Jaguar I-Pace Falls Short Of Tesla Model X

MAR 25 2018 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 52

How does the Jaguar I-Pace stack up to the Tesla Model X in some key areas?

We haven’t heard much from Ben lately, or perhaps we just haven’t shared any of his recent news. However, this one definitely got our attention.

There’s been plenty of talk about the I-Pace being marketed as a Tesla Model X competitor. This is a bit interesting since it’s much more of a car than an SUV and it’s much smaller, among many other considerations. Some argue it will actually compete with the Model 3.

Related: I-PACE COMPETES WITH MODEL X OR MODEL 3?

Jaguar I-Pace drivingBen points out that it’s one of few new electric vehicles that you can actually get. Jaguar has stepped up its game and pushed it to market ahead of all other upcoming rivals.

He also says that it’s really the first vehicle to come to market that is worth comparing to the likes of Tesla’s lineup. Nonetheless, he feels it doesn’t stack up on some levels.

Ben only discovers a handful of ways the Jaguar I-Pace falters when compared to Tesla’s falcon-wing SUV: Storage, weight, and charging. Check out the video and the in-depth breakdown below.

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Video Description via Teslanomics by Ben Sullins on YouTube:

The Jaguar I-Pace looks pretty good stacking up to the Tesla Model X. It even won a 0-60 race recently. However, there are three ways I feel it falls short. 

On paper, the Jaguar I-Pace looks good, but there are three ways in which I have doubts:

1 – Storage

The Jaguar I-Pace (25.3 ft3) somehow has less storage room than a Tesla Model S (30ft3) and when compared to the Tesla Model X (66-88ft3) it’s not even close. For some, this will be a big deal, notably those with families or kids, but might not be a deal breaker for all.

2 – Weight

This might sound odd, but because the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of the Jaguar I-Pace is less than 6,000lb it doesn’t qualify for this special tax exemption in the US. This tax rule lets businesses, including freelancers etc. to deduct 100% of the vehicles depreciation in the first year. If you compare the two vehicles from a base price, and subtract 32% tax deduction on these vehicles, it completely flips the results around.

3 – Charging

In the future, the Jaguar I-Pace will support 100kW DC Fast Charging. Right now it only supports half of this at 50kW. This means that to top up 80% on your trip you only need to wait 85min. Just enough time to binge watch some Teslanomcis videos 😉

Contrast this charging time with the Tesla Supercharger network and it’s obvious that if you ever go on longer trips the Tesla Model X is the winner.

It’s not ALL bad though…

For many, the business tax deduction won’t apply so the lower price will be a better deal overall. The performance of the I-Pace is also impressive. With a 0-60 time of 4.5 seconds it beats the base Model X by nearly half a second, however, doesn’t touch the P100D time of 2.9 seconds.

Overall I am excited to see legitimate contenders to the dominant force that has been Tesla in the EV market. Companies like Jaguar have strong reputations and fans that have loved them for years. With car makers like them and others embracing the EV movement we’re likely to see better competition and in the end, a better result for consumers.

// What is the Jaguar I-Pace
The I-Pace is designed by Ian Callum.[2] The concept version of the car, described as a five-seater sports car, was unveiled by JLR at the 2016 Los Angeles motor show and shown on-road in London in March 2017.[3][4] and series production is handled by Magna Steyr in Austria.[5][6] The production version of the I-PACE was revealed in Graz on 1 March 2018.[7]

Some of the electric drive technology comes out of the Jaguar I-Type Formula E program,[8] and the concentric motors were developed by JLR engineer Dr. Alex Michaelides.[9]

// Jaguar I-Pace Range
RANGE
One full charge provides a range of 240 miles.

// Jaguar I-Pace Performance
PERFORMANCE
Instant torque and All Wheel Drive traction gives the I‑PACE the acceleration of a sports car. It reaches 60 mph in 4.5 seconds.3

// Jaguar I-Pace Battery
BATTERY
The 90 kWh battery of the I‑PACE is made up of high-energy density, lithium-ion pouch cells. Its design and state-of-the-art thermal management system support longevity and periods of sustained maximum power.

// Jaguar I-Pace Power
POWER
The I‑PACE is propelled by two permanent magnet synchronous electric motors. Similar to the technology found in the I‑TYPE Formula E racing car, these motors generate 394 HP and 512 Lb-Ft of torque.

// Jaguar I-Pace Dimensions
DIMENSIONS
The I‑PACE has a compact footprint from the outside but exceptional space within. There are five full seats, innovative storage, a substantial rear cargo space of over 25.3 cubic feet and 0.95 cubic feet in the front storage compartment.

// Jaguar I-Pace Charging
CHARGING
With a 50 kW DC rapid charger — the kind found at most public charging stations — the I-PACE can achieve a 0-80% charge in 85 minutes.*

*Note: Actual charge times may vary according to environmental conditions and available charging installation.

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The slower charging compared to a Tesla is significant for high-mileage drivers but what you’re all overlooking is that the i-Pace will ( I think) be very appealing to many who are considering a Model S.
Since I first saw it, I was struck by how car-like it appears. I maintain it’ll steal more sales away from Model S than X.

The Model X has 3 rows. It is basically a mini van for people who don’t want to drive mini vans. That has never been Jaguar’s market.

Biggest issue is the Tesla X’s 55 miles more range especially SUV loaded with skiers in cold weather or campers in warm weather.

Range is the biggest EV issue and X’s has 20% more range in addition to the SuperCharger network and faster charging.

Is the loaded iPace 20% cheaper than similarly equipped X?

It really is a car. The height is the same as a Leaf, as is the cargo volume with the seats up.

Jaguar’s own promo materials show how car-like it is:

https://media.jaguar.com/en-gb/news/2017/09/jaguar-charges-i-pace-all-electric-race-series?q=&start=0&brand=jaguar

Comparing it to the X is like comparing a Ford Explorer to something smaller than an Escape.

Might just as well compare the Jag, and a Smart EV.. they’re not in the same size class either.

There will probably not be another EV with the same size as Tesla model X for at least 3 years.
The Audi that comes in 2018 is also some what smaller, the VW “SUV” will also be smaller.

Thanks for the info!

I see that for the I-Pace, the seating capacity is only 5. So it’s very odd to see this article compare the I-Pace to the Model X; it clearly is more comparable to the Model S. It’s also odd that the article neglects to point out the Model X’s higher seating capacity.

In my opinion, it’s also wrong to call the Model X an “SUV”, even if some of Tesla’s advertising labels it that way. It’s clearly a CUV, not an SUV. The Model X does not have the higher ground clearance nor the more robust suspension of a true SUV.

Its a suv, like an smaller explorer but bigger then the escape and both are SUV. CUVs are kona, niro, ecosport, Traxx, enclave

It never should have been labeled as an SUV. It competes with the Model S not the X. I like the interior better than the Model S.

No the I-Pace has no direct competition, the only reason it’s being compared to the Model X by some people is the Model X is the only other electric crossover SUV available.

Correct, i-Pace doesn’t line up with anything Tesla makes. It’s a compact crossover that most closely matches the likes of Rav-4 and Equinox, or, Porsche Macan in the premium space. The Model Y will be i-Pace competition.

I don’t understand the argument about the weight.
iPace is listed at 4,693 lbs
Model X at 5,421 lbs and
Model S at 4,883 lbs.

So none of these are over the 6,000 lbs mentioned in the article and I think it is an error, as I believe the tax write-off is for commercial vehicles and used to be over 8,000 lbs but maybe now reduced to 6,000. If I am correct, none of these vehicles qualify. And generally speaking, isn’t lighter better?

I could be wrong but I thought the “Hummer” loophole was corrected some time ago.

Hmm maybe not?? This seems to suggest it was fixed for this year but maybe not

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/time-running-out-for-model-x-2017-massive-business-use-tax-deduction.98739/

Either way stupid loopholes like this need to be closed.

Thanks for the link. So the tax deduction is based on the fully loaded weight of the vehicle and the Model X GVWR is 7000 lbs and the max tax write-off for depreciation is 40%.

So actually the Hummer loophole wasn’t removed, but it was expanded to include more vehicles by reducing it to 6000 lbs.

I don’t understand it either, people used to try and pull crap like this on Tesla. And now Tesla fans are dishing it out sounding exactly like EV skeptics.

Those look like empty weight figures. A quick search show the minimum gross vehicle weight of the Model X as 6,581 pounds.

This tax break would help explain why Americans drive such big and heavy vehicles.
In Worldwide sales I think you will see the Jaguar keep pace with both the Tesla S and X.

The jaguar will charge at >100kW and doesn’t taper as early (% wise).

From jaguar
“Owners will be able to achieve a 0-80 percent battery charge in around 40 minutes using publicly available 100kW DC rapid charging facilities…”

“Right now it only supports half of this at 50kW. ”

No – the i-Pace supports 100KW charging right now.

Yeah, it should say: only supports 50 kW charging, since that’s all that’s available to use still for at least a year.

No. Of course it should not. I have 100 kW CCS chargers near me that I could use today.

And it’s what the car actually can take that is interesting.

Aahhhaa!! I thought someone would say something like that!! You may be technically correct, but I’m saying that there won’t be ~100 kW fast chargers around most places for at least a year. If there are at least a couple of them per country or state, that’s what I would consider available.

This is just typical InsideEVs. I can only assume they do it on purpose.

#2 weird

I could name more things my i3 has over my Model X, and it’s simple little things most cars have, not to mention the below average build quality, and almost needing to call an exterminator for all the electronic bugs. I used to hate the biased attitude people had against Tesla, now Tesla fan boys are trashing anything electric that doesn’t have a Tesla badge on it.

What we need an exterminator for is all the Tesla bashing trolls infesting InsideEVs comments; especially the ones who pretend to own Tesla cars.

I’d post a picture for you if this comment system allowed for it. You don’t have to believe me but, my Model X is a 2016 90D 5-seater, silver on black with 22 inch wheels. I have honestly had a hard time with my Model X so my comment is backed with a bit of frustration. But mostly I’m getting tired of reading Tesla fan comments that show no support for electric cars unless they’re Teslas. I have my Model X and i3 as my user photo when I comment on sites like Green Car Reports.

This entire article is nothing but Jaguar bashing and trolling. You want to cry uncle about Tesla being the victim here? People like pu-pu really need to get the Tesla they’ve been craving so desperately yet can’t attain so that they can leave the rest of us actual EV drivers alone.

He cannot legally drive any longer, and will not even purchase a cheap used ev (few thousand $) for a relative.

He’s just here to provide comic relief and to flesh out news articles on slow news weeks. That is why ZZZZZZ calls him the ‘village idiot’ and I call him a clown, since he almost never adds any meaningful content whatsoever to the discussion.

Hey Bill, I’m always entertained by your posts. Not ever educated, but certainly entertained.

Please tell us more about how NASA’s lunar landings were faked. 😉 That’s almost as much fun as you believing you know more about my life than I do! 😉

Tesla fanbois think thier cars are gods but thier not. Its a car like any other car that you drives to work and do your errands.

I guess it’s too much to hope for journalists to ever stop talking about cars as if advertising and selling them is a zero-sum game; as if there always has to be a “winner” and a “loser” in any comparison. That goes along with calling articles “stories”, as if articles had to have some sort of narrative, and create a “storyline” with a conflict, instead of just reporting facts and objective analysis.

I think all true EV fans should welcome the I-Pace to the EV family. It’s great that potential EV buyers have another model to choose from!

Go Jaguar!

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In the looks department, I like a grille in the front, even if it’s a non-functional faux grille. I preferred the original Model S, with the nosecone, to the current version.

So for me, the I-Pace is a really nice-looking car, and I prefer the looks over the Model X. Does this mean I hafta turn in my Tesla Cult Member card? 😉

👏👏👏👏👏👏

How can I get rid of the irritating InsideEV’s drop down menu that keeps going up and down?

It’s a “virtual” top of the page so that you can easily get back to the beginning once you’ve scrolled down. This is since there is no bottom of the page ever. It just keeps scrolling down and into other days and a virtual page 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. Then, you can’t really easily get back to the menu or new stories at the top. So, the “virtual” top of the page appears for you if you attempt to scroll back up. If you continue scrolling down, it will disappear and stay away. It’s only when you try to go back up that it appears in an attempt to help you.

Its hardly of any use. It’s not like the dropdown menu has any functions that we will use frequently (if ever).

Just getting rid of it would be a lot better for the user experience and functionality of the site.

I use it multiple times a day to get back to the most current stories, to get to the sales scorecard, and to consult the compare EVs guide. You can’t get back to the most recent story without it, and that makes me crazy. I find myself stuck on virtual page 2 or 3 when I don’t want to be. I also use the search bar constantly, which is there as well, and it takes me over to the forum, too. We got rid of the Motorsport popup at the bottom and shrunk and moved the social media links, and deleted all other popups. There have been about 50 improvements thus far from the list that all of the readers were sending at the initial redesign. We will still have a few more waves of changes as we move forward. The list of categories is coming back soon, too, which we’re very excited about. We miss that a lot.

Yeah, I found it really annoying at first. But now that I am getting used to the idea that I must stop from a scroll down, it’s ok. An yes, I use it all the time to return to the top.

It’s actually very helpful when you get used to it and want to return to the top or search something. It will help a ton on sales day when people want to continually check the scorecard. Thankfully, all those other popups have been banished!

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Dan is a Tesla shill.

Excuse me. I mean Ben. Only he won the free Tesla model 3 remember? Everytime he posts a new video, it’s the official Tesla marketing stance. He poses an EV enthusiast like you and me.

I think you are referring to the roadster he won…and the first post should read “Dan is a Tesla troll”.

Awesome car, just tagged with a price that is about 30% too high. Charging needs – at least for Germany – to support three phase charging, and the overall capacity of the trunk is not really convincing. The frunk is a joke.
However, it IS a Jag, meaning that the interior and material feels way superior compared to Tesla. However, Tesla feels more spacious and offers a better package with its SuC structure.
Anyhow: The first real contender for Tesla arrived, exciting times!

Comparing the I-Pace with a Model X is only because of they’re both in the top segment of the EV-market. As a car they’re totally different. I ordered an I-Pace because it felt like a real (premium) car and that’s exactly the same reason for for several Model S owners that now switch from Tesla to Jaguar.

“The Jaguar I-Pace (25.3 ft3) somehow has less storage room than a Tesla Model S (30ft3) and when compared to the Tesla Model X (66-88ft3)”

Just to make this a fair comparison, one should mention that the Model X storage data is given with all second (third) row seats folded down. Since the I-Pace has this option as well, its storage volume is actually 25.3-51.3 ft3.

I was excited to see the Jaguar I-Pace announcement. As mentioned in the article, Jaguar just brings more legitimacy to the movement.

However, I was disappointed by the interior dimensions. The I-Pace has pretty much the same comfort space as the Chevy BOLT….little larger in front seat space, but smaller in backseat. I think this is going to be the biggest knock against the product…for a “luxury” vehicle, it does not have the comfort space one would expect.

This has the same internal space as a FPace which allows 4 people to travel in comfort. If you don’t fit in this car you are either very tall or simply obscenely overweight.

Today a Jaguar dealer told me that about 1,500 I-Pace cars will be allocated to be delivered to customers in The Netherlands in 2018.

Indeed, and it will be hard (or impossible) to get one of these because they are sold out (due to tax changes as of 2019 that will make the car a lot more expensive for most people)

I have driven a Model S in the Netherlands for 4.5 years, absolutely love the car, but have now ordered an I-Pace. I’m one of the 1500 lucky ones to have ordered it before it sold out. I’m looking forward to it, but at the same time I’m a bit apprehensive, for two reasons. The first is the reported EPA range of 240 miles. It is a usable range, but it surprises me that is about the same as a Model X 75D, which is both bigger and heavier. To get only 240miles from a much bigger 90kWh battery with a smaller and lighter car makes me wonder what the reason for this inefficiency is. The other concern I have is with the jaguar’s internal charger. With the Model S, I drive about 35.000 kilometers per year, and at least 350 days of the year I only need to use my own 11kW Type 2 charger in my carport. I schedule the charging to start at 23:00 to make use of the cheaper electricity at night, and no matter how empty the battery is when I get home, it is always 90% full the next morning. But for reasons that… Read more »