Jaguar I-PACE Can Charge At 100 kW After Update

MAR 13 2019 BY MARK KANE 39

Updated Jaguar I-PACE charges faster

Software update for faster DC charging is finally coming to Jaguar I-PACE. Fastned already had the opportunity to charge the car after the update at its 175 kW fast charger and confirms that a level of about 100 kW is possible.

The graph shown below shows that the improvement is mostly in the low state-of-charge (SOC) when I-PACE can take up to about 105 kW (around 100 kW can be maintained between 10-40%). Power is slightly higher also between 60-90% SOC.

Assuming 105 kW peak and 90 kWh battery, the charging rate is up to 1.17C. The higher pace at part of the SOC probably can shorten the 0-80% by several minutes (probably roughly 40 minutes, which is in line with specs).

The update is to be available soon at Jaguar dealers:

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Doesn’t a 2012 Model S charge at 120 kW?

Was about 90kW in the beginning. But they used to do OTA from day one.

They forgot door pockets, ceiling mounted exit handles, and coat hooks from day one too…..

Yeah, those are the first features I look for when buying a luxury BEV. More important than charging speed, good point.

Yep, coat hooks would be the deal breaker for me.

Because door pockets full of used Kleenex is so luxurious.
And you can put maps in them for when you feel nostalgic.

😂 ceiling handles are great if you a hundred years old. But then again go for a another type of car.

Yes Model S and X will soon do 145kw when the v2 super chargers get a software update.

What’s a Model S?

It’s a Tesla model.

It is the compelling EV that blows past your Smart EV!

Highly unlikely. The Smart is the most nimble production car on sale.

https://forum.abetterrouteplanner.com/blogs/entry/6-tesla-battery-charging-data-from-801-cars/

The “A” BT85 battery packs for the S 85 topped out at 90 kW. Tesla replaced these with the “B” packs sometime in mid 2013 I believe.

B packs and later can charge at 120 kW at up to 35% SOC. The Model S taper is steeper than the Jaguar I-PACE taper; at 60%, both cars are charging at about 70 kW. At 80% the Jaguar is charging at 55 kW, the S 85 is charging at about 40 kW.

The S 90 curve in the ABRP blog holds the > 100 kW charge rate to 60% SOC, and generally charges faster than the Jaguar at all points.

That’s good information, not all Teslas are created equal.

So when is GM going to update the Bolt’s lackluster 50KW DCFC speed???

Not sure- ask bro1999.

Probably for the 2020 model. The batteries in the Bolt EV are hardware limited to 1 C, which is why they haven’t increased the speed on existing models. You know, the only EV with over 200 miles of range that you could buy for the last two years for less than $40,000.

Yes but not at point of sale which was nearly $100k and a 3 year wait.

“The update is to be available soon at Jaguar dealers”
Hehe…. can’t believe most car manufacturers still have to update the cars at the dealerships in 2019.

Doesn’t a 2012 Model S update over the air?

The I-Pace does do OTA updates, being their first electric Jaguar is probably having the more major systems updated at dealerships to monitor for bugs. Unlike Tesla who will send you an update that causes a bug that you have to then wait for the next update to fix.

Update your car the same way you would your work computer or phone… if a minor bug is an issue for you, wait for other people to update and confirm there’s no issues – don’t be the first one to dive in.

If you’re the kind of person who likes to be on the bleeding edge and accept the risks that come with it, then update immediately.

Either way, you’ll get the bug-free version at about the same time… when you get a buggy version, Tesla always prioritizes sending you the fixed version ASAP. If you get a buggy version one day, it’s not uncommon to get a fixed version the next day.

That’s not the reason. Unlike Tesla, but like most manufacturers, Jaguar sources all the many electronic components from third party vendors. One of the side-effects is coordinating something like software updates is A) much harder with so many different companies involved and B) need to be planned for way back a the design phase of each component.

Are the dealers keeping the car for a period of time, like weeks, to check for bugs? I guess I don’t get your comment.

It seems to me that if the software is buggy, then it’s buggy when the dealer installs it too.

If Jaguar wants the dealer to install the software, then they either want to keep their dealers happy, they don’t have confidence in their OTA update process, or they think the software isn’t idiot proof enough for the average Joe to install it.

Haters going to hate, eh CDspeed?

Theres something called a log file 😂
Same with the ipace except with the ipace you would have to go to the dealer to read it

This is one of my prime considerations of a Tesla over another EV. It took months for Honda to release a Software update for a minor safety concern for the Clarity PHEV, and it took two dealer trips to get it right. The first update was buggy and the second update got it right. Granted it was already at the dealer for oil changes those two times, but EVs don’t need those either…

I thought this was a US only problem cause of the stupid ass dealers association.

I wonder why they aren’t doing an OTA in Europe.

Never thought of this but probably a way for these OEM’s to keep dealers happy. Maybe this is one of the ways dealers will sell EV’s.

Not everything can be done OTA especially in the area of Power Electronics. Sometimes a physical module needs to be changed.

Better, But with Teslas charging at 120Kw, and Audis at 150Kw, still short of being competitive. It would be interesting if Fastned would combine the charging curves of all those cars to actually compare the differences

iPace has 72 MPGe hwy vs SparkEV 109 MPGe, ratio of 1.5. iPace at 105kW to 50% is miles per time equivalent to SparkEV at 70 kW (previously only 48kW equivalent). Well, at least it now charges quicker than econobox SparkEV to 50%.

Good news, and shows that Jag is committed to improving its vehicles.
Getting tired of all the negative Tesla trolls. We want diversity in EVs, more manufacturers building better and better cars. Lets applaud the steps forward not denigrate the efforts. Though I expect most of the Tesla trolls are oil affiliated spammers.

Ditto. A lot of people on these forums could be a lot more welcoming to fellow EV owners, who happen to own non-Tesla EVs.

Tesla exists to promote EVs and clean energy; that’s Elon Musk’s vision. Other manufacturers entering the market is exactly what he’s always wanted.

So please try to support “Team EV” and not just “Team Tesla”.

Very well said. I so wish that’s how it was. That would be so fantastic. Instead, people fight and compete and act like a-holes! As you said, Tesla has made monumental strides and been a huge part of the revolution, but that doesn’t make other EVs horse poop.

If someone released a car that was better than a Tesla in every way possible there would still be someone complaining that it’s not a Tesla.

I find is slightly worrying that we see all these software changes lately. Why wasn’t it available from day 1 if the hardware could already do it? It sounds to me that manufacturers accept higher battery degradation (or at least cut the safety margins) to not lose out in the PR war on charging speed. In the end the customer might be the one that has to live with the damage

In future articles could you add “charging miles per hour” which would be miles added per hour given the EPA rating and charge rate. This is much more useful to the layman as it directly correlates to their travel time.
i.e. the Model 3 charges at 300 mph but the S charges at 275 MPH even though they both get the same volts and amps.

I will be interested in seeing if these higher charge rates provide any indication about different battery cooling designs. It seems like the plate system might be more limited because there is a temperature gradient across the length of the cell (it gets hotter the further away from the plate). The ribbon system doesn’t have same distance problems. It will be interesting to see what the new Taycan uses (1 plate, dual plates, ribbon, something else). That seem like an awful lot of heat to dissipate compared to the current cars.