Hyundai Kona Electric Gets Range Downgraded Too: Follows Kia Niro EV

DEC 4 2018 BY DOMENICK YONEY 57

Your mileage may vary.

When the specifications for the 64-kWh version of the Hyundai Kona Electric first appeared, it was graced with a range of 292 miles under Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP). If it seemed a little too good to be true, that’s because it was. The automaker has learned that the external agency responsible for making the calculation slipped up, and Hyundai has now published new, lower figures.

According to a report in Autocar, the 64-kWh Kona Electric is now rated at 279 miles under the WLTP, while the 39.2-kWh version — which will not be available in the U.S. — has been downgraded from 186 miles to 180 miles. The news comes after learning that its corporate cousin, the Kia Niro EV (e-Niro), suffered the same fate.

The Kia, built on the same platform, saw its numbers tumble from 301 miles to 282 for the 64-kWh version. The 39.2-kWh variant dips from 193 miles to 179 miles. We have to say it still strikes us as odd that the slightly larger Niro EV returns a higher range figure than the Kona Electric, so it’s possible there will be a future revision.

In the U.S., meanwhile, the EPA has rated the 64-kWh Kona Electric at 258 miles, which we believe is a more realistic figure. For its part, the (64-kWh) Kia Niro EV was given a more believable 239 miles of travel on a charge using the U.S. agency test.

The Korean automakers are not the only ones to have issues with the new standard. Mercedes, for one, pulled its 200-mile WLTP figure for its upcoming EQC electric crossover and still hasn’t issued an updated figure. For now, it suggests people use the (outdated and inaccurate) NEDC number of 450 km (279.6 miles). We estimate the EPA range figure for that vehicle will be closer to 222 miles.

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57 Comments on "Hyundai Kona Electric Gets Range Downgraded Too: Follows Kia Niro EV"

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Joel B

I wonder if range numbers will become bragging points, like the horsepower war. “Oh, you’ve got a range of 250 miles? I’ve got a range of 300 miles!” For the average person, after a certain point, it becomes pointless.

Texas Leaf

I think charging speed is already the main bragging point for electric vehicles. “Oh, you can charge at 50 kW? Well, I can charge at 100 kW.”

Since charging speed is very important on long trips, the competition for faster charging speeds is quickly mimicking the horsepower contests of the late 1960s. But the charging speed contest is important to everyone, not just people that want to drive fast..The importance of this contest is illustrated in how fast we went from 50 kW chargers to 350 kW chargers.

TheWay

If I had to chose, I would still go for more range over faster charging.

Dan F.

This just reminds me that EVs, even Teslas, are not competitive with fuel burners for road trips. Just drove last evening L.A. to Bay area in friend’s ’17 Prius. 400 miles, two short stops, 75 mph when traffic allowed (80% of trip), all the cabin heat you could want, 7.8 gallons used.

I was at the L.A. car show looking at newest EV, PHEV and hybrid vehicles. Thinking Kona, Niro or Bolt. Bolt pretty marginal interior and outside looks, kind of sad really.. Kona, Niro nice. But that drive home makes the Prius Prime look awfully good. And way cheaper.

Brian

Prius Prime and Mirai are the two ugliest cars on the road by a wide margin.

Prsnep

I don’t find the Prime ugly and neither do the people I know. I don’t know why I keep seeing these comments here.

David C

How can you drive for 6 hours with only short stops? Especially in such an uncomfortable vehicle as a Prius? Are you young? I’d drive 850 mi in my early 20s in a harsh-rising 03 Accord with a 5 sp MT. But when I did it at 32, it was exhausting and mind-numbinly boring. I now split that drive in 2, with long stops for a sit-down meal or to sight see a bit, plus walk the dogs. Or I fly.

Range and charging speed are all very individual. My mother has never driven more than 3 hours in a day in her life. Refuses to. Whereas my neighbor’s parents, who are older than my mother, drive 9 h down here once/month to help with their grandchildren and give my neighbors a weekend off; in an F-series, so at least it’s comfortable. I can’t imagine it though. I’d kms to be cooped up for that long.

randomhuman

@David C
unfortunately flying is not very good for your carbon footprint. One flight easily burns so much fuel, you could drive tens of thousands of kilometers. Better drive even if it’s a gas car.
I‘m guilty too…just a reminder how bad flying is for the environment

antrik

On longer trips, flying produces *less* carbon than driving a combustion car. Only short-distance flights are horrible.

(Rail of course beats both…)

mxs

I am sure most educated people know that … however, let’s not forget about practicality of actions when discussing driving vs. flying. It’s like arguing that the container vessels are the worse polluters, so we should move all freight by smaller trucks …. great idea, yet not very practical, regardless how bad the ships are for environment.

Stan1

“It’s like arguing that the container vessels are the worse polluters, so we should move all freight by smaller trucks …. great idea, yet not very practical, regardless how bad the ships are for environment.”

No, it isn’t a great idea because the premise is false. Container ships are not remotely worse polluters than trucks on a shipping volume basis. They are significantly cleaner even running on bunker fuel because they are way more efficient. This link only shows CO2 effects but it is based on that massive difference in efficiency: http://www.ics-shipping.org/shipping-facts/environmental-performance/comparison-of-co2-emissions-by-different-modes-of-transport

New fuel requirements that make using bunker fuel illegal are making shipping much cleaner going forward.

Jason

On a cost per mile basis the BEV will be cheaper than the Hybrid. In any of those 64kWh vehicles you get 200mi range in about 40min, so you have a stop of about 30min longer. So 5 1/2 hour trip became 6hrs. Gee, such an incredible inconvenience 🙂

David Cary

And that vastly overstates it. You don’t need to charge 400 miles on a 400 mile trip. On a LR Tesla, you need to charge 100 miles (trip length-range+30 for buffer). When the battery is decently low, 100 miles is your average 10 min bathroom break.

Tim Miser

You take 10 minutes to go to the bathroom?

David Cary

Remember that you get probably 280 miles on a LR model 3 at that speed. That means you need to recover 150 miles during the trip (trip-range+30). 2 stops of 75 miles each. Getting 400 miles per hour is doable so that means 10 min rest stops. 0 gallons used.

That is non competitive? Have you taken a road trip in an EV. The lack of vibration really does make a difference with fatigue on a long trip.

Andy

That all really depends on the trip and the location.

Is there a supercharger on the way? There are still a lot of locations where superchargers aren’t available (look at Montana, or much of Canada outside of southern Ontario as an example). You may have to use slower chargers, or you may have to go a completely different route.

What vehicle are you driving. Vibration from the engine in an F Series at cruising speed is minimal (as is noise, it’s as quiet as a Tesla). Vibration in a low end car with a small hard working engine will be different.

This is personal experience – if you’re driving through somewhere like Montana you’ll get there much faster, in just as much comfort in an F Series as a Tesla. Elsewhere and with different vehicles it’ll be different.

Kdawg

I just plugged in LA to San Fran on Tesla Trips, and it shows (2) 25 min stops. That’s not bad at all, and that is also assuming no destination charging.

Edward

I agree. I charge overnight. I have ICE family vehicle for longer trips.

JOHN

i have ev n ice also, dnt like pay n 2 insurances. y not a hybrid wit 100 ev range only followd by ice kick n n 2 finish trip. dat wud b ideal 4 me.

Robert

It really depends on how often you need the extra range as more range will in most cases require more battery and therefore cost while faster charging won’t necessarily.

Robert

BEVfan

Most people don’t need more than 150 miles of range for 90% of time.
So they could get around with a 40 kWh battery (cheap, small and light) if they had fast charging (5-10 minutes) for longer trips.

Vertastic

The awkward thing right now is that if you have a vehicle that can charge at 70 kW like the Niro or Kona, you’re going to be disappointed at almost all DCFC charging stations in the US, because the vast majority of them of them can only deliver 45 kW (for 125A “50 kW” chargers — 125A × 360V = 45,000 kW) or even 36 kW (for 100A “50 kW” chargers — 100A × 360V = 36,000 kW). You’ll be disappointed in a Bolt, too, since it can do 55 kW, but not quite as much.

Even some Electrify America stations (their city ones) are only 125A.

amt

If You Rely on “One Car” Range Is Very Important . You can never Get too Much Range..

Edward

Too much range will be because limited charging speed.
You can have 500 kwh battery but how long will it take to charge it up?

Moshe

Who cares ? With that kind of battery, you never have to recharge anyway…
To sum it up, it does not take longer to recharge on a bigger battery, since you need to regain less energy on your trip. Bigger battery => Less energy replenishing necessary => Smaller charging time.

Model3 Owned- Niro EV TBD -Past-500e and Spark EV,

I had to have one ‘car’ solution — it’s a Pacifica PHEV. hauler for all situations. Niro PHEV does a pretty good job at it too. Prius? That’s one cramped car for 6h driving. with luggage space for a backpack

randomhuman

I don’t know what you have against a Prius. I guess it’s the American standard for car size. But my grandparents have a Toyota Corolla hachtback (is it available in the US? but definitely smaller than the regular Corolla). And we’ve been driving 300-400 miles in it with 4 people and luggage for holidays. Of course it gets a little cramped but Jesus lower your standards. A Prius has so much luggage space and for one person it’s more than enough. It gets 45-50mpg. You really should come to Europe once to see how crazy your (often wasteful) standards are…

David Cary

While I don’t disagree that our standards are wasteful, a roadtrip for 4 adults in a Corolla hatchback is a little rough. It is really hard to get humans to “lower their standards”. Over here, we are just trying to get people out of having 2 SUVs per household and get 1 smaller car for commuting….

antrik

To give some perspective, we did a few times go on 600 km vacation trips with four people (two adults + two adolescents) and luggage in a Fiat 126p…

Doing the same journey a few years later with four grown-ups in an Opel Corsa felt downright comfortable.

randomhuman

Sounds lovely antrik :p

randomhuman

You’re right David Cary and I don’t really expect others to do it. I just wanted to give a perspective. I mean it was once a year and the corolla hatchback is perfect for city driving and that’s what my grandparents use it for most of the time. They don’t need a second car and a big SUV would be very wasteful. But some people should really overthink on what they need instead of what they want. Bigger is not always better. And as you said I also think it’s really important especially for commuting to have a smaller car and possibly even an electric one.

Kdawg

I’ve seen a family of 7 on a scooter in Asia, but that’s just not going to happen in the US. 🙂

JOHN

not enuf ev only range. i drive my ev soul 80 miles a day.i want a hybrid wit more ev range.

TS

2014 – “Hyundai Motor Co. and Kia Motors Corp. have both been forced to pay a hefty $100 million fine in the United States for overstating fuel economy on the window stickers we, the consumer, go to see at dealership showrooms.”

Downgraded from 301 miles (300+) to 282 miles. Is this a mistake or else?

Shane Smith

You could have read the article. It explained the answer.

Chris O

It’s blaming an external agency… Hmm, there is still a pattern though.

ffbj

Still not too bad. It’s always advisable to take any new offering with a grain of salt.
My personal rule is never to get a new car less than 2 years into its run.

Edward

I like to try out New things and new car models. The drawback has not been that bad. No fatality yet.

ffbj

I applaud that attitude, since you look over the hill, and it’s really nice there, then some time later I show up.
The Bear went over the mountain, the Bear went over the mountain, to see what he could see, and all that he could see was the other side of the mountain, and the other side of the mountain was all that he could see, and Edward driving by in cool new ev .

Nono13

Not the same WLTP numbers on a French website :
– 64 kWh : from 482 km (299.5 mi) to 449 km (279.0 mi),
– 39 kWh : from 312 km (193.9 mi) to 289 km (179.6 mi).

The final numbers are correct but the downgrade is higher.

Edward

180miles is plenty for my use. Just keep the price below $32500 before tax credit.

Prsnep

Not available in the US, fyi.

Nix

Anything with 200-300 miles range is in the sweet spot for EV’s, as long as the fast charging is fast enough.

David Cary

And available enough….

Shane Smith

I am trying to find a reason that I shouldn’t consider one of these, and frankly this isn’t it. A couple of miles argument in the range department? Does it still get around 200? Much more? Okay then…

I have heard the interior quality is nothing to brag about, but small hatchback or CUV with 200 plus range is pretty much my entire request list for my next car. I am anxious to see these cars and the VW ID.

This isn’t scaring me off. Is there something else?

ffbj

Wait for the AWD version.

TheCyberKnight

The Niro 239 EPA miles is especially disappointing considering its 64 kWh battery.
We’re talking Bolt EV range here – that is a 3 year-old car.

Dan

Niro is an SUV, BOLT NOT!

Vertastic

If you agree that the Kona and Niro are pretty comparable, then the Bolt is comparable too. Compared to the Kona, both are about 164 inches long and have identical 102.4 inch wheelbases and 200 horsepower (150 kilowatt) motor ratings. The Hyundai Kona Electric is about 1.5 inches wider while the Chevrolet Bolt EV is about 1.5 inches taller. The Bolt has more legroom and headroom (especially in the back) whereas the Kona has more shoulder room. The Kona’s trunk space measures in with 19.2 cu ft with the rear seats up or 45.8 with them down, whereas the Bolt it is 16.9 cubic feet with the seats up (less) or 56.6 down (more). More comparison in this article: https://electricrevs.com/2018/10/16/hyundais-kona-ev-one-ups-the-chevy-bolt-ev-except/

The Bolt admittedly doesn’t look like an SUV, but from my perspective that’s a win.

Model3 Owned- Niro EV TBD -Past-500e and Spark EV,

Nice numbers. reality is the Bolt was made about 6″ too short in the trunk. Give it 9″ more and it would have been a total hit. Alas, been waiting for Niro to come out to do it right whereas Bolt could have done it 3 years earlier

TheCyberKnight

Funny. You should check the specs.

Both of these upcoming vehicles have about the same measurements than a Bolt EV. And they actually even have less interior space.

Edward

Why aren’t they releasing official price?

Dan

I guess they are being opportunistic, looking around how much competitors charge. I wish Nissan Leaf e-plus coming out soon.

ffbj

Not really my idea of harmony, it seems ironically to be the cause of discord, nor is it Worldwide, and the Test part seems to be off by a statistically significant amount, but hey, they did get the Light vehicle part right, so that’s worth something.

Your Dad

For gas cars WLTP seems to be very accurate. Some common Toyota models are rated at 6 l / 100 km which is pretty realistic. RAV4 hybrid is 6.8 l / 100 km. NEDC was something ridiculous like 4 l / 100 km.

Magnus H

Gas cars performs the worst in city test, EV performs the best in the city test. Hard to draw any conclusions.

0x00

I have the Kona Electric over a month now and my last longer ride mostly highway (Autobahn, about 80% of the route) with trying to drive around 75mph (120km/h) resulted in a consumption of around 19-22kwh/100km which means around 180 to 208 miles in real world driving for my profile, depending on the elevation and weather. Heating was activated all the time.

here is my blog summary in German (google translate mostly works):
https://e-klar.xyz/2018/12/03/kona-ev-erste-laengere-strecke/