Honda Reveals Electric CUV With 53.6 kWh Battery Based On HR-V

NOV 21 2018 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 69

Honda’s upcoming Everus VE-1 is now a reality and will be produced exclusively for China.

Back in April, Honda unveiled an all-electric crossover concept based on its HR-V. Now, the automaker has partnered with China’s GAC Group to bring the production version to market in China. The VE-1 SUV is currently being showcased at the Guangzhou Auto Show.

The VE-1 will utilize a 53.6-kWh battery pack to offer an electric range of some 340 km (211 miles) on the NEDC test cycle. Its single electric motor is rated at 120 kW (163 PS/HP) and produces 280 NM of torque.

The report shares that it will be similar to the Honda HR-V, however, styling adaptations are obvious. It will offer drivers three different driving modes to select from based on preference and road conditions: Normal, Battery Saver, and Sport. The CUV measures 4,308 mm long, 1,824 mm wide, and 1,625 mm long. It rides on a 2,610 mm wheelbase and comes equipped with 17-inch wheels.

Honda and GAC are combining to invest 3.27 billion yuan (Rs. 3,371 crore approx) to build a new automotive factory in China. It will be capable of producing 170,000 plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles per year. GAC’s Trumpchi GS4 electric compact SUV will also be manufactured by Honda at the new facility alongside the electric HR-V. The vehicles will be sold at GAC-operated Honda dealerships in China.

According to GaadiWaadi:

Honda has made the VE-1 available for both private and car sharing community. The electrified HR-V will be retailed for 1,70,800 yuan (Rs. 17.66 lakh approx) which includes a range of tax relaxations and it is nearly 42,000 yuan more expensive than the regular HR-V or Vezel as it’s called in some markets.

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This has been happening a lot recently, but is anything with a hatchback a CUV?

It’s sitting on a Fit Platform so yes this is what they are now calling a CUV. A jacked up hatchback.

CUVs have never been anything else, pretty much the definition is a more aggressive looking wagon

…with a shorter body and thus less usable interior volume. A true wagon is always going to have more trunk space. But the HRV and Fit/Jazz are admittedly very practical cars.

A “true” wagon is going to have more trunk length than a CUV as it’s a longer vehicle. A CUV will always have more trunk height than a wagon because of the higher ceiling. Generally overall volume is greater in a CUV than a wagon, but which is more practical will depend on what you want to transport.

I would say: “Fairly” practical cars. CUVs are just high/tall station wagons on short wheelbases. They are built upon a car platform and tease the car buying consumer with “AWD” and offroad visions, but truly are street cars that are tall, with stingy room behind the rear seats. Positive is the stowage area and second row seating areas are tall, but most only practical for hauling items when seating one passenger with nobody or no items or pets in the back seat area. Sedans with a hatch, or “hatchback” body profiles provide better practicality in my opinion because they are lower to the ground, can also have AWD for inclement weather traction and generally have more back seat and stowage room because of a sloping hatch area with bigger trunk space. Sedans and station wagons are lower to the ground, have far less turbulence roiling between the chassis/battery pack and the ground. Sedans have far less frontal area to the wind, meaning more aerodynamic and efficient, needing less battery pack and having more range per kwh. MPVs ( Asia and Europe ) and “minivans” ( USA and Canada ) are the practicality and versatility champion. Sadly, OEM manufacturers have sold… Read more »

Too many supposedly “CUVs” only offer FWD and not AWD. And do not offer enough ground clearance to be actual CUVs.

I have a minivan and everything you say is true. But there’s no way Model Y will be a sliding door box car. And it better not be a softened Pontiac Aztek, like the X.

The customer is always right, even when they’re dumb.

Do not bring up the Aztek, that is the model that killed the brand!

And look how fast and with what little effort it took.
Honda has been Sandbagging EV’s.
CEO should be FIRED.

Well it took a friendly reminder of the Chinese government to produce a quickly increasing percentage of ZEVs or face severe penalties.

Yeah when China decided the pollution is to severe they went all in. They now produce the most EV’s, Wind Energy, Hydro and Solar. I suspect some of the rural areas still heat there homes with coal and apparently Beijing banned using charcoal grills in the city.

From a worldwide environmental perspective their push for EV’s is currently a negative, due to the significant amount of coal power they use (so more CO2 overall than a petrol/gas car).

BUT from a local perspective it’s better as it moves the particulates out of the city. There is a push to make their electrical grid more environmentally sound however, so in future the worldwide environmental benefits will switch too.

Even charging an EV from coal is better than driving most ICE cars.

23% of the electricity in 2017 was from renewable. 17% in the US.

“…is anything with a hatchback a CUV?”

For marketing purposes in the U.S. at least, it seems that there is no such thing as a “hatchback” anymore. They are all called CUVs or SUVs now… with a distinct preference for “SUV”, no matter how low the ground clearance, or small the car is.

Meanwhile, in Europe, it seems the term “wagon” is being applied to shorter and shorter cars. It used to be that there was a very clear distinction between sedans and station wagons, with wagons much longer than sedans. But station wagons in general have gotten shorter and shorter since the ’70s or ’80s, so now the line seems to have become as blurred as that between hatchbacks and CUVs/SUVs.

Seems to me that trends are converging; the same cars will soon be called “SUVs” in the U.S. and “wagons” in Europe. Maybe that’s happening already; I dunno.

It’s all about marketing. So many people are convinced that a CUV or an SUV is the best type of vehicle to buy these days, they won’t even take a second look at a vehicle if you call it a sedan, hatchback, or wagon. So the answer is, just build tall hatchback vehicles, call them CUV or SUV, and like magic, people will buy them. If Nissan would re-classify the Leaf as a CUV instead of a 4 door hatchback, Leaf sales would likely increase significantly. The Nissan Leaf has just as much interior space as many small CUVs.

They really don’t want to produce these…. only when forced to.

It certainly seems that way

Yeah, they don’t want to sell vehicles that they can build and sell profitably. Car companies are now charitable organizations.

LOL. They’re profitable in China at $25,000.
Looks like that wasn’t hard at all.

It takes Government Regulation to get the Auto Industry to Innovate.
That’s a Failure of Capitalism.

They also don’t have the same safety regulations in China as in other countries. Not that they can’t design and build a safe car without the regulations, but rather that certification of the safety requires expensive testing. IMO, it’s worth it, but I’m in a very safety conscious and sensitive industry.

$25k is after subsidy.

Its not a failure of capitalism. It depends upon your ideology and political views. Your comment suggests you’d prefer a world where private companies are told what to sell by a large central government. Huge inherent problems arise immediately when governments step in. Look no further than the government using your money to bail out GM, for instance. You should love that decision as your money was taken to save a failed corporation in the name of jobs. Unfortunately, GM builds token electric and electrified cars and sells them in pitifully small compliance numbers, just as all other ICE companies have done. This is not a result of terrible capitalism, but a huge corporation that exists due to government action and regulation. The free market tends to right all ships. Tell me that the government should have mandated what products Nokia had to build. Disruptors like Apple and Tesla keep the market nimble and honest, the consumer benefiting from the power of choice where, why and how we buy consumer goods. You can have that flip phone should you want it but the free market is incredibly responsive as the vast majority of consumers wanted a smart phone. I don’t… Read more »

>> They really don’t want to produce these…. only when forced to.

That’s how you know you already drank the koolaid. It’s a spin perspective.

Look at it this way. they really don’t want to sell in a market not accepting of change. That’s us here.

You really drank the Kool-Aid served up by flip phone manufacturers that told you we all didn’t want smartphones, didn’t you, John?

53kWh… that’s absolutely insufficient for a SUV/CUV

Kia e-Niro is bigger than this one and starts with a 39 kWh battery, I don’t think 53 is “absolutely insufficient”… but maybe is because Hyundai/Kia powertrain is very efficient and Honda/ GAC’s one isn’t.

It’s near the high end for a Chinese model. Many have ~40 kWh or less.

Keep in mind that almost all of these are sold in large cities.

Yet China is a huge country. Surely range and peace of mind mean as much in China as it does elsewhere.

You going to buy a cellphone with a four hour battery or one that costs slightly more but lasts an entire day?

Have you even seen a Honda HR-V. It’s little more than a nice looking 4 seater although the back seats are really tight. Little bigger than a Miata with a hatchback.
I don’t think it sold very well in the US where people what big a$$ pick-ups to haul a case of beer in.

Or in China, where they want to haul a big ass bag of rice in?

It has a good looking, modern, fresh style and also a good battery size, they should make it available globally and not only for China 🙁

I can’t wait until the Helpful Honda Folks bring the GAC “Trumchi” here, to the MAGA states!

“GAC’s Trumpchi GS4 electric compact SUV will also be manufactured by Honda”.

I hope the Donald dicktates, that all Honda Trumpchi’s (Trump-Cheeze), will be allowed to be imported here tariff free!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpchi

Good luck with that. I’m pouting it’s only for China but Trump is not the one to change the situation.

“to bring the production version to market in China”
OUTRAGEOUS the US Market and the Japanese market aren’t the 1st and 2ed markets.
The CEO should be FIRED for Gross Incompetence.
When you need a Government Mandate to Innovate you’re Not Qualified for the CEO position.

It would also help if more governments actually mandated EVs. It’s especially unhelpful when one jurisdiction actually has a mandate but a federal government takes it to court to try to force it to give up the mandate… Just hypothetically speaking…

Google how the German government is shielding and protecting It’s automakers, all of whom were just as guilty as Volkswagen in placing cheating defeat devices in their diesel cars and trucks. Again, “too big to fail”?

Germany’s protectionism is allowing these companies to go on cheating customers and self regulate. This results in less available affordable electric cars to the public.

Only Volkswagen, who were caught and internationally exposed, has promised to mass produce electrics. NOT because their government required or mandated it, but to “save face” and regain consumer confidence for the brand.

Strange how the (more socialist) German government is slowing the evolution of that country’s transportation industry in the name of jobs rather than accelerate it.

Let’s keep these articles about leading edge products “only for China” coming. The inevitable backlash might shame Honda into changing their insulting attitude.

Honda isn’t selling this in Europe and the US because it isn’t really a Honda. It’s an Everus, a company/brand that is from the joint venture between GAC and Honda. It’s not just a Vezel/HR-V with a battery pack dumped in it, it’s been co-developed using most of the body and platform of the Vezel specifically for the Chinese market, with the Chinese government mandating the development and subsidising the pricing. Its EV system is probably not consistent enough, based on battery supply issues other manufacturers have had, nor certified for sale elsewhere and gaining compliance would be next to pointless when they would sell almost none of them because it’d have to be expensive not to be a financial toilet for the company. When was the last time anyone saw an Opel/Vauxhall Ampera-e, or a Ford Focus Electric, etc? It’s not Honda that needs to be shamed into changing their attitude, its the global governments who refuse to do anything to make a difference. It’s very telling that in Norway, where EVs are heavily subsidised and the government mandates EV infrastructure and the like, all the top sellers are EVs and PHEVs, and this is reflected on the streets… Read more »

Capitalism has no moral compass. That’s what governments are supposed to do. Unfortunately the people currently in power in the US government have a moral compass that always points the wrong direction.

All these EVs for China is getting frustrating for everyone not in China.

To some degree, I agree. But also, climate change is a global issue. So I really don’t care where the 100’s of thousands and hopefully millions of EVs get built and sold, as long as they actually get built and sold.

Yes, you do. Buying cheap crap that wears out fairly soon from China is one thing…putting major money into a personal vehicle from China and trusting it for long term reliability, safety and to be built by a workforce treated humanely is entirely another endeavor.
My contention and hope is that Americans will not tolerate such personal, durable goods from a repressive, inhumane, undemocratic state.

They are quite happy to buy the oil that powers their cars from even more repressive inhumane and undemocratic states, so you’re out of luck there,

PS? … Think author meant HP (horse power)

“electric motor is rated at 120 kW (163 PS) and produces 280 NM of torque.”

PS: that’s some “Powerful $h!t” 😜

That was how it was quoted in the source article. There were some other conversions related to money. Rather than botching it, I left it as stated to be safe and consistent. I will add HP as well.

PS is short for Pferdestärke, which is used in Germany for example. Directly translated it would be something like horsestrenght. It is almost the same as break horsepower BHP.
They measure it a bit different.
Check out: https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/driver-calculators-and-tools/power-converter-bhp-ps-and-k

With new EU regulations I guess Europe will use mainly kW. In the beginning I felt it was strange to use kW for anengine, since I’m used to meassure electric motors in W. It always is less in kW, compared to HP too.
Now with EVs and hybrids. . I’m getting more used to it – and it feels normal(ish).

I am curious as to where they have positioned the batteries. An innovative feature of the ICE version of the HRV (and the Fit) is that the gas tank is under the front seats. This results in a low floor in the rear seat and hatch area. This low floor results in excellent back seat dimensions and cargo space. Anyone who has owned one of the ICE versions of these vehicles with their “Magic Seats” will agree that space behind the front seats is one of the best features of the HRV and Fit. When Honda did the Fit EV for California (I believe) it lost the magic seats and some cargo space.
It would be interesting to see how this vehicle would compare to the Kona EV.
Come on Honda, get into the North American EV game

Oh yawn – only for China…as yawningly cynical and duplicitous as it gets.
Meanwhile most of our complicit/compliant – or genuinely clueless – media continue to dutifully tell us that carmakers are veritably racing to catch up with and “take on” Tesla.
Oh boy – there ain’t no Emoji out there yet that adequately captures the cynicism and ridicule that most major carmakers deserve to have heaped on them by journalists and comment-posters alike.
Paul G

To be fair, with meaningful mandated being imminent in China, car makers are racing to scrape together any stopgap measures they can manage; while in other markets, most makers are taking their time trying to come up with vehicles that actually might have a shot at being competitive and profitable…

All these nice new EV’s in asia and US. Meanwhile in Europe the i3 gets a slightly bigger battery… My gawd it’s pathetic.

Increase the battery to at least 75 kWh and sell in the US. Demand would be incredible if priced well.

You realize this is a _really_ short & small car, right? I doubt there’s room for a 75kWh pack, esp. given it’s likely they’re using the cheaper Li-Ion chemistries, whic htake up more space.

340 km nedc on a 53,6 kWh battery is shitty as fuck. The fucking Nissan leaf has a 40 kWh pack and still gets a shitload of 378 km of ned fucking c range. This car will probably get motherfucking horrible pice of shit range when tested in the fucking wonderful EPA range cycle.

If the factor between nedc and epa is the same as the Hyundai kona for example this car will get 256 km or 160 miles of range in EPA range. If the factor is as crappy as the leaf this car will get a 218km or 135 mile range. Pice of crap vehicle.

This is a city car for China. Not aerodynamic in the least (CUV are horrible for that given the shape & height).
It’s not intended for and most likely will never be imported into the West in this form.

Price matters a lot in China (just google their salaries…) Most EVs sold there have a <70mi range.

Tone down the language. Surprised the moderator let this pass.

Anger issues! Perhaps he is a fired Honda engineer??

That thing is so ugly it made me look for the fuel cell.

About $25k for a 200+ mile EV is a good deal. And it’s funny how Honda pokes at GM with calling it the VE-1 similar to GM’s first electric vehicle, the EV1.

Except it’s not a 200 mile EV. When a manufacturer uses NEDC range in their publicity that means “we know it’s pathetic so have chosen a standard that everyone knows is a lie but may scrape through when someone else repeats it.

We should be glad that a car designated for the China market is given an NEDC rating. The Chinese and Japanese testing standards are even more unrealistic. Or at least the Japanese are; I’m not sure China even has any equivalent of EPA ratings for cars. Maybe they just let auto makers make any claim they want about fuel/energy efficiency and/or EV range, no matter how exaggerated.

It’s $25k after large subsidy.

Is this a 4-wheel drive vehicle? My HR-V is phenomenal – I’d replace it in a heartbeat if this is available in the US and 4-wheel drive. I couldn’t ask for a better SUV, WITH 4-wheel drive.

The production version of this car has been revealed as EVERUS VE-1, and it is priced at 170.8k RMB after allowance. Check the link to see what it looks like===> https://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201811/924439.html

If only the US had such regulations that would make an automaker invest billions to build a plant here.

It seems like a lot of the comments are complaining about why this Honda isn’t selling in Europe and the US. Reading the article it said the factory will produce about 170,000 Hybrid and EV a year.
That’s after the new factory is completed which it appears has broke ground yet. I also didn’t read anything that said when these EV’s will being selling. I’m guessing no sooner than 2021.

“1,625 mm long.” should be “1,625 mm high”.