Harley-Davidson Livewire Electric Motorcyle: 110-Mile Range For $29,799

JAN 7 2019 BY RIDEAPART.COM 37

Was it worth the long wait?

Harley-Davidson has been teasing its first electric motorcycle, the Livewire, since dinosaurs roamed the earth. We first rode it way back in 2014. It featured prominently in Avengers: Age of Ultron, but seemed as much a part of Marvel’s fantasy world as the superheroes themselves. Harley has been teasing us about the Livewire for at least five years now, showing it off from time to time but never giving us any more significant information about it, even at the 115th-anniversary opportunity. That ends today, however.

Today’s news came not at a motorcycle show, but at CES 2019, which focuses more on electronics and technology. Vehicles have become a much bigger part of the show in recent years, though, as the line between them and high-tech gadgetry becomes more and more blurred. Not only was the Livewire there in all its glory, but Harley also showed off prototypes of an electric dirt bike and scooter, as well as a concept drawing for four potential models. We’ll write about these in another article.

Finally, we get some official specifications of the Livewire’s performance. It’ll do 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds. The range will be about 110 miles. It will charge off any standard household outlet at Level 1, as well as support Level 3 fast charging. H-D did not provide any charge times. But it did provide a price: $29,799. You can now look up a dealer that will be able to sell you the Livewire on H-D’s website.

There’s still a great deal that we don’t know—the size of the battery or the power of the electric motor, for example. Harley’s always a little bit cagey about ratings like this anyway. The Zero SR is known to have a similar 120 mile mixed city/highway range with a 14.4-kilowatt-hour battery. The Livewire is probably a bit heavier than the SR, so we could be looking at a low to mid-teens kilowatt-hour battery. The range is not out of line with other comparable electric bikes, but certainly short of a typical Harley touring bike. You’ll be hard-pressed to finish your poker or toy runs on the Livewire.

While performance specs are scarce, we do have lots of information about the H-D Connect Service, “an LTE-enabled Telematics Control Unit coupled with connectivity and cloud services using the latest version of the Harley-Davidson App.” The bike will be connected to the cloud. Owners can check the battery charge and expected range remotely, know where it is and if it’s been tampered with or moved, and automatically receive service reminders. Perhaps this is why the Livewire was revealed at an electronics show rather than a motorcycle show.

Finally, since a giant part of the Harley experience is the sound, the Livewire promises “a new signature Harley-Davidson sound as it accelerates and gains speed. This new futuristic sound represents the smooth, electric power of the LiveWire motorcycle.” We don’t know if this will be the turbine whoosh of KITT from Knight Rider or a modernized version of the classic “potato-potato” sound. What we do know is that unlike other Harleys, adding loud pipes to the Livewire won’t help amplify the sound.

Sources: Harley-DavidsonElectrek

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From article: “Harley-Davidson has been teasing its first electric motorcycle, the Livewire, since dinosaurs roamed the earth…”
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lol… but true… and remains true until Harley actually delivers a production EV motorcycle to a customer.

At a cost close to $30k I wish them lots of luck 😎

110 miles for $30k? Fail.

A typical Harley for $50,000? Fail
ftfy

110 miles probably won’t get them between DCFC stations. Those are typically about that far apart. It seems they should have gone more range. I hope that is actual range riding at typical highway speeds.

EA is installing stations about 70 miles apart. It will definitely get you to the next one, but don’t think about skipping over one.

Who is EA?

If their dealerships install DCFC stations (and it’s not one dealer per state that carries the model), then that might help everyone out.

Unless they have FCDC chargers at every dealer who sells it, then you’re ok.

Looking at the map of H-D dealers who are going to sell the LiveWire there are very few if any cases where you can ride from one dealer to the next to use their DCFC. As Electrify America (EA) and others continues to build CCS stations it will depend on your location as to how easy it is to travel with a LiveWire using CCS charging. But I saw an article that claims 0- 80% in 40 minutes which means it charges about half as fast as my Energica does. If you really need 90-95% SOC to make it to the next DCFC it may take an hour.

That 110 mile range better be at highway speeds, otherwise I see a big failure especially at $30K.

It may be about time for motorcycles and 3-wheelers to be qualified for EV tax rebates. Hopefully HD might have enough political sway for it.

If there was such a thing, Aptera wouldn’t be dead.

+1 for Aptera mention. I wonder where the prototypes are these days…

I fail to see how this Harley is any better then the Zero SR which is half the price.

It’s like the new kid in town vs the bloated Legacies all over again.

Twice the price of an equivalent Zero. HD is definitely on a path to bankrtupcy. Not only does it make out dated greasy leaky smelly noise gas bikes but it can’t make a competitive BEV bike. What a joke.

At 110 miles I think that makes it what we call a “bar hopper”

I’m just guessing, but it seems like HD invested a lot of time and effort…in adding greater value, prestige, legitimacy etc to the Zero brand. One more pitfall legacy makers will have to climb out of in pushing past all the headwinds of the electrification process?

There is a lot of discussion about this on the electric motorcycle forums. I find it strange that Harley would not make this available until August of 2019, shortly before the riding season in many parts of the country begins to wind down due to weather. Also find it odd they would put out more details at an electronics show instead of a motorcycle show. From other articles it seems the 110 mile range is in an urban area and is not highway miles. This also makes the claim of CCS charging at 192 miles an hour very confusing. I have no idea whether that is fast or not. My Energica charges at 21kw/70 A from CCS and most charge times are 20-30 minutes for comparison. Lots of comparison with Zero’s e-bikes but I think Energica is the real comparison. Energica also has traction control (for 2019) multiple ride modes, phone app, CCS charging, more performance and a cheaper price. Harley has never sold bikes based on performance. It is the name that sells, not the HP, torque, or other performance numbers. Time will tell if what has sold so many ICE H-D models will carry over to electric. Links… Read more »

Jaw dropping price for a bike…seems they don’t have any plans to compete in Asia.

$30,000 for a 110 mile range motorcycle?

Is this a joke?

$76,000 for 259 mile range=P75D

Batteries are expensive.

And heavy

Yes, but that is 5 person luxury sedan that goes more than twice as far.

At more than twice the cost with lower performance.

Just trying to put things into perspective. HD (and others) won’t have the market share to dilute building costs like automobile manufacturers can. High performance batteries aren’t cheap.

$30K for 110 mile bike = bad deal
$76K for 259 mile high performance supercharger supported luxury sedan=Good deal

To match or better the bike’s 0-60 time (which is not all that fast by superbike standards BTW), you’d have to pony up to the P100D level: $126,000. And as much as I hate to admit, HD’s are built to very high (luxury) standards too.

I think the total number and declining sales of the P75D/Model S reflect the buying public’s opinion that it is a poor deal.

Harley says that the LiveWire can be charged at “any compatible charging station” and times are as follows:
·Level 1 (standard household outlet): 13 miles range per hour of charge.
·Level 2: LiveWire can be connected to a Level 2 charge unit but will be charged at the Level 1 rate.
·Level 3 (DC Fast Charge): 192 miles range per hour charged.

So basically no L2 charging. I though Energica was bad with only having 3kw charging on L2. But Energica is made it Italy and I guess the CCS charging network in Europe is far more robust than it is the in US and so they figured you would be unlikely to ever use it.

LiveWire will be a very serious test of whether or not brand name alone can sell electric motorcycles.

Well, the original Livewire concept had a 60 mile range…so…there’s that.
Its looks and range isn’t bad…for 20k, 30k is very steep. They think their name is worth more then I do.

$30k for a HD? That’s almost as much money as some of their baggers. I want to like it, but it’s like they want to get beat on by Zero.

Yeah, I prefer to see Zero beat them down.

Been in the Harley saddle fifty-one years now, just wondering how electric bikes will be less damaging to the Earth in the long run, surely power stations are also a problem?
Wouldn’t solar power be preferable?

Been in the Harley saddle for fifty-one years now, just wondering about electric bike…surely solar power would be preferable to power stations that also damage the Earth?

With this beast your easily going to average 45 kW with an average speed of 60 mph. Giving you about 20 miles of range…

No one buys an H-D ICE bike because of great price and specs. The same logic could work for the LiveWire.

Close to three times the price of my Sportster?

I don’t think so.

This is the crux of the problem. Is the LW three times better? Nope.

Motorcycles, whether performance or economy driven, are all about power/weight ratio.

The state of current EV motorcycle tech: Fast, far, cheap: you can only pick two.

As a former harley owner, all I can say to this are they freaking serious with the price? Granted there were some power company and tax incentives in there, but I paid less for my BMW i3!