GM Builds 18 Stall CCS Charging Station In U.S. For Autonomous Bolt EV

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JUL 17 2018 BY WADE MALONE 34

While General Motors is hardly building out a fast charging network to rival Tesla, the company has been increasing their investments in infrastructure as of late.

Earlier this year, GM announced a partnership with EVgo to install hundreds of charging stations across 7 major markets. These stations will be built specifically to service GMs ride sharing platform Maven Gig. They will only be accessible to Maven Gig Bolt EV drivers. Now Bloomberg has reported that Cruise Automation, GM’s self-driving car unit, has installed 18 CCS fast charging stations in San Francisco.

Cruise has been testing their autonomous Bolt EVs in the city since last year. The company plans to launch their Cruise Anywhere ride-hailing service as early as 2019. Grayson Brulte of autonomy consulting firm Brulte & Co told Bloomberg:

It’s an indication that Cruise is getting ready to commercialize autonomous ride-hailing services for the public and it will be in San Francisco. (…) I imagine they would want to own and operate the service.

Progress has been swift for Cruise since being acquired by GM. SoftBank recently announced it would invest $2.25 billion in GM Cruise. $900 million would be invested in Cruise immediately. An additional $1.35 billion will be invested once the company is ready for commercial deployment. So long as no regulatory hurdles are placed in its way.

Cruise Anywhere plans to launch in 2019

A GM spokesman told Bloomberg that no decision has been made whether it will fully own the self-driving car service. The company also would not comment on exact timing or the the first location they would make the service available. However, considering all of the moves made recently, it looks likely that the Cruise Anywhere service will launch next year in San Francisco.

Source: Bloomberg

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34 Comments on "GM Builds 18 Stall CCS Charging Station In U.S. For Autonomous Bolt EV"

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Chris O

So…GM really expects level 4 autonomy ready for prime time next year? Or does this require level 5 autonomy? Either would be very impressive.

Seven Electrics

Have you watched Cruise EVs autonomously handle the streets of San Francisco? Stunning: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfgjemwc9NU

This was made over a year and a half ago!

Brian

At this point, the hurdles are less about the technology and more about regulations. Does San Francisco allow for driverless cars on their streets en masse (and not just in a limited demonstration program)?

Chris O

It’s one thing to make a slick video with a guy keeping his hand one inch off the wheel all of the time, another to unleash a fleet of completely unsupervised fully autonomous vehicles on the general public.

EVShopper

Per regs, they have to be able to be remotely monitored and operated.

Seven Electrics

Their disengagement rate has been dropping incredibly quickly: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/d94d9334-9955-4f97-aae1-5a2c9f10673b/GM_Cruise.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

They’re at one disengagement for every 6000 miles (over the last two reported months) and most of those are due to other drivers’ bad behavior.

Mwene Mutapa

GM is notorious for meeting its promised deadlines.. If they say something is going into production, it is. Remember when Chevrolet announced its first Volt, Toyoda (Toyotas CEO) called it vaporware since the ‘technology did not exist’..

2 and a half years later, you could order your volt and get delivery.. very impressive.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

So GM puts up some DCFC’s but closed off to the everyone public……..lol
No news here, move along.

EVShopper

At least it means their ride-share cars won’t be plugging up public chargers with a “free-to-charge” Model.

Wade Malone

Yep no more free charging for maven gig drivers on public stations and no autonomous bolts taking up public charging either. Still benefits EV drivers by reducing the burden on public chargers. 🙂

But also it points to what what many expected… Cruise will launch in San Francisco.

SparkEV BoltEV

Great news! Leave public charging alone, and use their own dedicated chargers. If GM did not build for autonomous, the robots with their infinite patience will crowd out public chargers to be really unusable (as bad as it is now). Check out this ridiculous plugshare photo of local DCFC crowded by Maven Bolts + New Leaf.

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Brian

Wow, that would be awful to pull up to expecting a charge! But from here across the internet, it’s really cool to see so many EVs!

SparkEV BoltEV

Apparently, this is a regular occurrence at this location. There’s another photo couple of days later where it shows 7 EV.

Brian

I’m dreading the day that this starts happening to me. I can’t see it not happening the way that NYS is putting a single 50kW charger at each Thruway service plaza. If EVs take off, then there will be long lines all of a sudden. Which in turn will lead to a lot of reverts back to ICEVs.

SparkEV BoltEV

8 out of 9 in the photo are free chargers. If they prohibit free chargers, things won’t be so bad.

Mark.ca

Don’t worry, it’s coming.

SparkEV BoltEV

Doh! Thank you, Mr. Negative.

Adam

+1 I had NO idea it was THAT bad (good) in CA. Amazing!

SparkEV BoltEV

This is only good if you want people to move away from EV. There was a comment that said his next car won’t be EV because of crowding. The thing is, 8 out of 9 in the photo are free chargers, so if they get rid of free charging, this won’t be an issue.

John

Look how many stalls are at this charging site:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/16/16665504/tesla-supercharger-largest-us-kettlemen-truck

No more wait, sweet!!

SparkEV BoltEV

That’s because Tesla prohibit supercharger use for ridesharing companies and notify abusers to cut. If Tesla gave free like eVgo, that place will be full of rideshare free chargers just like in the photo.

SparkEV BoltEV

Here’s an example of what can happen if Tesla allowed free charging ride sharing service.

“I’ve been at the Qualcomm Supercharger numerous times when the “pilot” of the Tesloop was not “with the car”. I had a meeting at QC and 2 Tesloops were there before I got here and still unattended when I left 2 hours later. Needless to say, I find them annoying when there is a line of 8 cars waiting and a couple of Tesloops are charging away.”

And 8 waiting is only with few Tesloop cars. Now imagine if there are several hundred ride share free charging Teslas charging 2 to 4 times a day. Measly 50 handles won’t matter.

ga2500ev

This is the kind of picture that continues to point towards distributed EV charging. The problem with 9 chargers is that they would require 4.5 times the power than what’s deployed now, raising the cost of deployment and likely use costs.

Question: Is this charging station somewhere where’s there’s something to do while waiting to charge? I just wonder if it would be effective to have say double the charging power available but distributed among 10 handles. Then folks could plug in and walk away while power is distributed. Maybe coupling it with a premium pricing structure where there is an extra cost to get a lot of power quickly may help to manage it.

I thought that the Maven stations could benefit from this too by having a Maven “corral” along with some public handles outside the corral.

I believe there is an area of work in distributed power distribution for EV sites that needs some looking into. In an ideal world, EV would simply be plugged in when they park, with power distribution and payments based on both total power and the speed of power delivery.

ga2500ev

arne-nl

Why don’t they build charging stations for their customers?

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

Because they don’t give a flyin muthaphfµk about you or their product!

According to GM it’s not their responsibility.

EVShopper

If you are using their Maven network, you are a customer. Also, these chargers would free up other publicly available chargers.

JJG

How are these autonomous cars connecting to the charge station?

Brian

I was wondering the same thing.

Wade Malone

Currently due to regulations (from my understanding) an employee must be in the drivers seat to take over at any time. So they would likely be responsible for plugging in.

Once the vehicle is unmanned In the future, I imagine they would pay someone to monitor the site, plug in the cars, and clean up any mess riders might have left behind. Something along those lines. Just speculation on my part, but it seems logical to me.

Brian

I could envision a central hub to which the cars all return. They would get plugged in to charge and then cleaned out by a human for now. In the more distant future, there’s no limit to what can be automated.

Hauer

So we free people of the chore of driving so they are available to to things less dull, like cleaning and charging.
Hmmm.

Brian

Yup. We also free them from the chore of an income so that those wealthy enough to own these fleets can take the profits directly.

Malcolm S

Because time spent charging means lost revenue, there will be some incentive for GM improve the Bolt with a faster charging rate design.

Mwene Mutapa

GM is clearly a leader in both EV’s and Autonomous vehicles. We are certainly living in interesting times. Someone needs to drop charging times