General Motors Confirms Chevrolet Bolt Will Be Available In “Late 2016”

JAN 5 2016 BY MARK KANE 127

Chevrolet Bolt EV - Image Credit: Tom Moloughney

Chevrolet Bolt EV debut – Image Credit: Tom Moloughney

General Motors repeated its intention to bring the Chevrolet Bolt EV to the market in 2016.

More specifically, GM will launch the car in late 2016, which in the worst case scenario means December in some early markets or hopefully during the last couple of months of 2016.

The source of this information is an e-mail from a GM representative, revealed by

“The all-electric 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV will be available late 2016”

Ultimately, the Bolt EV will be available nationwide, but the pace of 50-state rollout hasn’t been outlined yet.

On Wednesday, at CES 2016, we expect to see the official unveiling of the production version of the first affordable, series electric car with 200-mile range from a major manufacturer.

Press release below:

Chevrolet Bolt EV Will Debut at CES

DETROIT – Chevrolet will unveil the 2017 Bolt EV at the International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas on Wednesday, Jan. 6, and be the first auto brand to work with Facebook to debut a vehicle using Facebook Live.

With the addition of the Bolt EV to a lineup that includes the all-new 2016 Volt, 2016 Malibu Hybrid and Spark EV, Chevrolet will offer consumers more affordable, electrified vehicle options than any other major automotive brand – solidifying its position as the leader in electrification.

“The Bolt EV truly embodies the ingenuity that is at the core of everything we do at Chevrolet,” said Alan Batey, president of General Motors North America and head of Global Chevrolet. “The technologies and the engineering expertise behind the Bolt EV are tremendous examples of the kind of innovation we intend to offer our customers, across an array of products at a tremendous value – something only Chevrolet can deliver.”

Building on the electrification expertise established by the Volt, the Bolt EV is a game-changing, long-range electric vehicle. Not only will it deliver more than a GM-estimated 200 miles of range, it will break the affordability barrier with a price below $30,000 after full Federal tax credits.

The Bolt EV will also offer connectivity and infotainment technologies seamlessly integrating smartphones and other electronic devices important to today’s consumers.

Chevrolet’s four million Facebook fans will have the opportunity to be the first to experience the new Bolt EV – with both a live video of the debut as well as an immersive 360-degree interior video experience.

CES has served as the showplace for innovators and breakthrough technologies for more than 40 years, and has become a global stage where next-generation innovations, like the Bolt EV, are introduced to the marketplace.


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Damn. It may beat the Model 3 to the market by more than 2 years.

So they say, but as we all know talk is cheap.

Talk is cheaper when it comes to Tesla and their production record. GM made its timeline with the Volt, and I suspect it will make its timeline with the Bolt as well.

Well they already fudged it, as they said originally it would be by October. Regarding Tesla, since you brought them up, that is an argumentative ploy, and I agree, anyway.

Tesla has repeatedly missed their deadlines, and so will GM in regards to the Bolt. So what? If it is a great car, like the Tesla(s) and the Volt(s) it is not so important if it is a few months or even years late. To use Corey Johnson’s, (inveterate Tesla hater) phrase: GM will not have produced the Bolt in any numbers, say in the thousands, by this time next year.
That’s just my opinion.
I just hope its a great car and if it is I may get one.

I also don’t agree that the Volt has meant all its production deadlines and by omitting countering that giving implicit consent that it was correct. I just did not want to bother.

Thanks for your opinion, but here’s the facts:
– Volt debuted late 2010 just as promised. How do I know? I received mine in December 2010.
– Bolt availability in late 2016 is in line with prior expectations. There has been no confirmation that has said October, though if that was mentioned as an unofficial possibility, that’s still late 2016.

Both these examples run contrary to Tesla’s production timeline records.

Nope, ain’t gonna happen. Check back with me a year from now when they will be saying expect production to ramp up in Q1. Tiresome.

Being available late 2016, and having production fully ramped up, are two entirely separate things.

I suspect if it were Tesla, your opinion would be entirely different with the same circumstances. If Tesla’s release were what you’re upset about with GM’s, it certainly would equate to the first time Tesla didn’t miss a production deadline.

Gosh knows there isn’t room for more than one 200 mile EV in the world market…

Oh the horrors of choice among the worldwide market place, however will people decide what they need and want at the same time? Surely Tesla will dry up should anybody else make a nice EV car. Innovation will die with choices. See what happened to poor Microsoft when Apple came along, LG and Samsung went out of business with the iDevices, or was it the other way around.

The pestilence that will plague people should they ever get THREE different vehicles with differing features, colors, or dare I say option bundles.


This is a silly discussion. I hope they ALL make it. I never understand why people refer to the people that dont’ like what they like as idiots or drones. It’s like complaining about those stupid people that like red over the vastly superior color I like.


GM never said it would be available in October. That was speculation based on leaks from suppliers.

They announced it last year, and now they say they produce it only in another year. They are playing us. This car should be already on sale. It’s so easy to build an EV.

In the real world, it usually takes a minimum of two years for an auto maker to develop a new model. From what I’ve read, the absolute minimum is 18 months, and cars almost never get into production that fast.

Even if auto makers wanted to get them to market sooner, it takes a lot of time to put them thru the procedures for crash/safety testing, and for EPA certification.

In the real world, RexxSee, things rarely happen because of all those hidden conspiracies you love to believe in.

Tesla has proven terrible at delivering on time, with vehicles, software, and accessories. The optimistic timeline for Model 3 is the end of 2017, so I would say summer 2018 is a best case scenario for deliveries in the thousands.

GM nailed the Volt 1.0 production timeline and delivered an awesome vehicle, on time (which is a unicorn in the plug-in industry). However, I think GM totally missed on Volt 2.0. The false start 2016 production, punted to a 2017 model just feels like a lack of focus/desire by GM. Looks like a mistake to me with all the pent up demand for a 2nd gen drivetrain.

Hopefully those resources are on the Bolt instead.

I agree the Gen 2 rollout is a bit botched. It sounds like they could’ve/should’ve delayed, but decided to meet their original deadline through the means they chose.

It still meets the deadline, but certainly results in an obfuscated rollout and model year schedule.

I don’t think the launch was missed. GM just needed the ZEV credits so it allocated all the inventory to CARB states where you earn CARB credits. If GM didn’t need ZEV credits the launch would have different. Then again if GM didn’t need the ZEV credits there might not have been a launch.

So they get ZEV credits in Mexico????

“GM just needed the ZEV credits so it allocated all the inventory to CARB states where you earn CARB credits.”

I didn’t know that Mexico or Canada are considered as US states (although some might think so). In addition, some states such as Virginia also got the car but NOT being part of the so called CARB state.

I guess that punched holes in your theory.

I think the Bolt is going to drain a lot of sales from the Chevy Volt. In that when you have a 200 mile EV for the same price. The people that would think about a oil free car or a plug in are going to right for the Bolt and drop the gas engine all together.

The problem with the Bolt is that GM hasn’t committed to a Tesla-like infrastructure (i.e. hundreds of 100kW+ strategically placed chargers).

Until they do, I don’t think the Volt will lose much appeal. I also think the uncomfortable 5th seat in the Volt is a lot better than none at all in the

It’s the LEAF that will suffer the most with the introduction of the Bolt, IMO.

This article says the Bolt will have three very spacious rear seats…

“She highlights an exterior ‘that seems shrink-wrapped around the interior,’ which provides rear-seat passengers with ample room for three; large door openings and flat floors, which make entering and exiting the car easier; and on-board cameras that on command project an image of a wide field behind the car onto the car’s rearview mirror, which helps with safety when dropping off or picking up passengers in city traffic.”


But the charging network is still an issue.

Beg you pardon, the volt doesn’t even seat five so they spoiled the product and it won’t even be available in Europe or Australia or anywhere but the us and Canada, slowly.
The Bolt is again spoiled seating only four, and it doesn’t have supercharger access, no real trunk neither and certainly no BMW 3 series look. It is not a competition it is just a minimum has to. Already better than the Toyota nothing but not a real GM effort, much more an LG effort.

Large compliance.

Large compliance? What a foolish statement. The Volt doesn’t meet any BEV credits because it has a full performance engine for trips in excess of its all-electric range.

You guys drink a lot of GM hater Kool-aid.

+1. This site has more than its fair share of brainless haters.

RexxSee is a Volt-hating troll. He should change his screen name to RexxSeeThrough. 🙁

SeeRexx should change his name to PriusDrivingVoltHaterForever…

Is that too long? Okay, maybe just PDVHF then. 🙂

I hate GM and all other ICE car makers not making real efforts to bring decent priced, long range BEVs en masse to the market.
The Volt is a very good Hybrid, as I said many times.

“Large compliance” meaning only 30,000 are planned.

30,000 of expensive compacts.

They are clearly making no efforts to take the green turn.

Sheesh. Just what WOULD satisfy you guys? 500 miles for $10k and seats 11? Probably not if it had a GM badge on it…

GM will be first to market with a 200 mile EV at (nearly) 107 mile Leaf pricing by at least a year. As kubel posted, Nissan has not committed to a 200 mile EV. Tesla hasn’t even shown so much as a DRAWING of a Model E and its very existence depends on the work-in-progress gigafactory while GM has a firm supplier arrangement at $145/kw-h.

GM is looking pretty good to me.

Seating 11, a limo with 3 full backseats!
Frankly GM is crushing the EV1, making a 4.5 seating Volt, making an egg seating four in the US big car arena. What else would they have to do to if they didn’t want to move ahead?
There is simply something plain wrong with that company, they just don’t want to change their ice oil machines. They make the oil lamps for their oilies buddies. GM should never have been allowed for a bail out. Many new much more willing companies would have been born in its place.

.. and Toyota Crushed the Rav4 EV, and Honda crushed the EV plus, and Ford crushed the Ranger EV.


All right. Always look at the bright side of life…

I guess Volt is terrible that we should be driving Prius instead. or Mirai.


Toyota does nothing, they are in parking mode.
That is just the sad thing about it, there is no real choice.
Leaf and Model S for those that can, that is about it.
It can change with the Model 3, the new leaf, the i5 and perhaps some others. I guess GM ev will somehow contribute.

Don’t mince words. Now tell us how you really feel!

The Bolt seats 5.

Priusmaniac says “Beg you pardon, the volt doesn’t even seat five so they spoiled the product and it won’t even be available in Europe or Australia or anywhere but the us and Canada, slowly.
The Bolt is again spoiled seating only four, and it doesn’t have supercharger access, no real trunk neither”
Wow you sure seem to know a lot about the Bolt before the reveal tomorrow, LOL. FYI, the Gen2 Volt does seat 5 in a pinch. Spy shots of the Bolt suggest it will also seat 5. The Volt is also sold in Mexico now and most likely a version of the Bolt will make it to Europe.

It does seat 5, see the USA Today article above. Spacious seating for three in the rear. Exciting times!

As reported on this site, GM had 55 pre-production Bolts on the ground back in *June*. Based on previous observation, the 55th Model E will be about the 35th car sold. 🙂

I don’t think there has ever been any rational reason to doubt that GM would get the Bolt to market well in advance of the Tesla Model ≡. Tesla is notorious for multiple delays on all its models. GM may have the occasional short-term delay, but their track record is miles better than Tesla’s in that regard. What puzzles me is that so many Tesla fans express dismay over the Bolt coming to market first. So what? I think Tesla will be able to sell every Model ≡ it can make, and then some, at least for the first few years of ramping up production. Don’t other Tesla fans think so, too? Let’s remember that Tesla is aiming for the 99% of the car market currently served by gasmobiles… and not merely the 1% served by other makes of EVs! Will the Bolt “steal” some of the Model ≡’s customers? Of course! And vice versa. But if GM only makes 30k Bolts a year, that’s a drop in the bucket compared to Tesla’s goal of 500,000 Tesla cars per year! The Bolt won’t be a Model ≡ killer. It can’t be, not even if GM wanted it to be, because… Read more »

And that’s a problem, because?

…because he is a fanboi?

More electric car choices is a good thing, especially affordable ones.

Darn. One more day 2 wait 🙁

Then Tesla will have to move to the more radical design to get the attention back.

Tesla still has the attention. The Bolt is virtually unknown compared to the Model 3, and the Model 3 reveal is near.

I’ll have some of what you’re drinking.

Why, sometimes the truth is hard to swallow….

(apologies in advance), but a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down…

What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

If the Bolt comes out by the end of 2016 / Q1 2017 and is a 5-seater at the promised rang and price point, then it will have beat all others to market, and there is no reason to buy any more leafs/eGolfs/i3/sparks/500e unless they drastically drop their prices and range is not an issue for the buyer because it is a second car.

I expect the tesla model 3 to come in late but be spectacularly more interesting in terms of technology, and it will be great to see it compete with the more conventional Bolt that will have been on the market for a while by then, and whatever else shows up by then.

The more important thing for GM is to get the Bolt into volume production before the 60 kWh LEAF 2.0 is out. It seems a given at this point.

In terms of features, performance and range, the LEAF 2.0 is more of a direct competitor to the Bolt than the Model 3. Model 3 in all likelihood with have a higher range (optional), much faster performance (optional PXXD model), and a higher Average Selling Price.

The Leaf 2.0 hasn’t even been announced yet, so I doubt that’s a concern.

Disagree that there will be no reason to buy anything else. For one, all the others except maybe the i3 already sell for much less than the Bolt likely will. So, in some cases, people will say the price difference is worth the difference in range. Also, by the time the Bolt is released, the i3 will likely have ~200 miles range, too (~120 AER + ~80 gas). The i3 should run almost exclusively on electric with 120 miles of range, but allowing use of gas may make it possible for more people to either use it for their only car or get over range anxiety.

I’m excited about the Bolt, but there are reasons why one might still buy something else when it gets here.

If you’re adding gas range to electric range, why would anyone buy an i3 REx over a less-expensive Gen2 Volt that gets better gas mileage and seats more people?

The i3 will likely have more than double the AER of the Volt (53 vs ~120 miles), meaning that it will be essentially all electric other than long trips for far more people. That said, the Volt is another car that makes sense as an only car in some cases where the Bolt doesn’t. I didn’t leave the Volt out of my list because it’s not a viable option. I just used the i3 as my PHEV example instead because it will have far more AER… much closer to the Bolt.

The Model 3 is covered in mainstream press. Nearly every article about Tesla mentions the Model 3.

The Bolt is covered in automotive press, sometimes.

The Bolt may be less known among Tesla fans, but GM will make the BOLT Known among the general public quickly.

lets hope so, i still meet people cluelessthe volt exists but most everyone seems to at least heard of tesla.

In my neck of the woods, most everyone has heard of or seen the Volt, though many don’t know much about how it works. Tesla is hit or miss. A few have heard rumblings of the Bolt, and no one is aware a Model 3 is coming.

That’s the problem with living in Michigan…

In SoCal and NoCal, EVERYONE has heard of Tesla and wants a Model 3.

I guess some Norwegian importers will find a new business opportunity here.

If importing the Bolt doesn’t pan out, those Norwegian importers should consider importing and selling these instead.

What, too soon? 😉

Tesla fanboys, don’t get your panties in a bunch. It’s just a joke.

GM & Tesla could be quite close in terms of pricing, especially if the dealers offer discounts etc.
The Bolt looks like a really nice little car, but GM need to take some real steps to establish a charging infrastructure.
Even if Bolt and Model-3 were the same price, Tesla would still have the Supercharger network.
Even better if GM partnered to get access to those superchargers, but they are too stubborn to do that.


Governments both federal and local are paying to install chargers. two years is a long time to wait for the long range driving benefit if 95% of your driving is within the 200 mile range.

And what do you do in those 5% trip cases? Sit there for hours at an 11 KW charger, take the bus, regret the absence of an i3 rex?
Rex or supercharger is paramount, there is just no way out if you want to be able to use the car in all cases.

You assume that the math works differently for Tesla, GM, BMW, or Nissan. The point when Li-Ion becomes cost effective to offer a 200 mile 35k car, they all will. The cost to roll out charging infrastructure is peanuts compared to the economics of the battery. If any of the manufacturers need charging infrastructure, they can turn that around in months. Until then, Tesla is focusing on the high end and claiming they have a unique advantage. The rest are focusing on the low end and not claiming anything unique. If you ask me, once those lines converge, the end product is not going to be remarkably different between the manufacturers, barring the different marketing spins. If anything, the mass manufacturers have an advantage at the low end and will likely be the first to get there.

Dan said:

“If anything, the mass manufacturers have an advantage at the low end and will likely be the first to get there.”

Then why did Kodak go bankrupt in 2012, instead of becoming the leading manufacturer of digital cameras?

You’re ignoring the lessons of history, Dan. Disruptive tech revolutions are never, ever, pushed forward or led by companies which are the market leaders in the old tech. They’re too invested in the old tech; they don’t want to sabotage their own best-selling products by introducing new tech products which directly compete with them. That’s why, even five years after the debut of the Volt, GM still hasn’t developed an SUV or pickup using a Voltec powertrain. Not even a concept car!

Market leaders clinging to outdated technology is why every disruptive tech revolution is lead by companies which are new, like Tesla; or by companies moving sideways into a new market, like Apple with the iPhone.

It happens every time, Dan. In fact, it’s so inevitable that it’s sad.

Tesla will have the Supercharger advantage, but I’m still leery about owning a car with such few shops to service it. I don’t live in California, so the service centers are a long ways away. I also have quality concerns with Tesla.

However, I’ll still be cross-shopping the Bolt & Model 3.. but will have to weigh all the pros/cons.

You are in a black hole region for Tesla and valid quality concerns. It seems Tesla treats people well on the service side, but you need to have a service center available.

I am planning to put a deposit down for a Model 3, then wait and see what the Bolt and LEAF 2.0 vehicles look like once they are on lots. If they can tempt me away from the Model 3, I might bite.

A 2-year lease would be another possibility, but I would hate to get stuck in no-mans land with an expiring lease (again).


Why are people comparing this with the Tesla Model 3?

The Model 3 is expected to be a BMW 3 series competitor, according to Musk himself. The Bolt is a good effort, but is a compact econobox, and I’m trying to be fair to them….

The last time I checked the BMW 3 Series is a compact class car. The Leaf 2.0, Bolt and Model 3 will all be similar in size and base price. Of course they will be compared. Heck I’m personally looking at all three for my next car.

Yeah they are compact cars, but the i3 is a LUXURY compact, and so will the M3, and that is the point he was making.

I expect any similar range i3 to the Bolt, will be $10K to $15K more expensive, same with the M3.

Particularly in terms of performance – whatever happens, the Model III will leave anything in its class in the dust – 3-series, 5-series, A4, A6…

As long as you realize that there will be a 10k difference in price between a Model 3 and a Bolt, the dimensions are all the same. The 3 series is not playing in the same price class as the typical compact. While Tesla might offer a 35k model 3, the only people who buy that will be those who are reaching beyond their means for the Tesla nameplate and are willing to forego other amenities they are used to in a cheaper car.

or people who want performance, handling, luxury, etc… ?

“or people who want performance, handling, luxury, etc… ?”

YOu are assuming that Model 3 will be “luxurious”.

The original base Model S60 wasn’t luxurious. It didn’t even come with leather standard. Its base S60 was pretty sparsely equipped for “luxury car”. The only cool thing was the large touch screen.

I imagine the “luxurious” version of the Model 3 will easily cost $45K or higher.

The base 3-series isn’t anything all that special, either. I agree that IF the Model 3 comes in at $35k, it’s going to have a pretty mediocre interior. Not like a Leaf, but nothing that special… like the 3 series.

Has everybody forgotten about the mythical $50,000 Tesla S? It never happened and it was cancelled.

we-ell, it Did sorta’ happen with the stripper S40, but from a cost benefit it made no sense, and no one ordered it — exactly like the S60D which lived for ~3 days before it was decided that -again, from a cost-benefit- it made More sense to offer the S70D at an increased price. There just Aren’t very many S60’s out there.
None of this matters much when you don’t Have $75k, but at the over $50k level, a consumer has expectations that couldn’t be met And produce a profit.

People forget about marketing gimmics that target these psychologically sensitive price points like 50k or 35k – points where people who would not normally spend more for a car suddenly get tempted by “maybe I too can one day own a …” People who might otherwise be owning an actual car for 35k end up holding out and getting disappointed. It works out great for Tesla though because it creates a vuccum in the 30k-40k where cheaper competitors might attempt to climb up.

ModernMarvelFan said:

“YOu are assuming that Model 3 will be ‘luxurious’.

“The original base Model S60 wasn’t luxurious.”

As compared to what? As compared to a Rolls-Royce, no. As compared to a Volt or a Leaf: Absolutely!

The Model ≡ is intended to compete directly with a BMW 3-series. We can be sure that it, like the Model S, will be quite luxurious by comparison to the new Leaf and the Bolt.

“It didn’t even come with leather standard.”

I realize some think leather seats are a “luxury”, but for the life of me I cannot understand why. Leather is doesn’t breathe when it’s hot, leaving drivers and riders with a back soaked with sweat; it’s cold and inflexible, and therefore uncomfortable, when it’s very cold.

In fact, the only way leather is better than vinyl is that it lasts longer.

By comparison, fabric seats are much more luxurious.

The dimensions are not the same. Like it or not, Americans have a bias against two-box front-drive hatchbacks. To sports and luxury car buyers, a real car is a three-box style with rear drive. That makes it longer, which does not translate into real room but adds to its status. I myself would rather have another three-box coupe to replace my Ford Focus, but larger, faster and more luxurious, because that’s the value system I grew up with, not hot hatches. A BMW 3-series is what I envisioned as my last car, the only “nice” car I will ever own, and the Model 3 has supplanted it. So the Bolt is no longer on my list though I hope it does well with younger buyers.

I’d like to know when we get the opel version in Europe. This was promised. I like the model 3 a lot more but it doesn’t exist yet and this has spotted test mules so it’s real.

Also European price in euros would be great. Might end up over 40K before incentives though…

Is there going to be a video stream of the reveal tomorrow?

Yupe we will have it. Will also been on one of their Facebook pages. Once it is queued up, we’ll put a note online.

Yep, live Facebook video stream.

Bolt, Leaf2 and Model 3 are the known, nearly here, affordable 200+ish mile EVs. That’s why they will be compared. When there are more products in this space, maybe it’ll be different. We’ll see what the rollout near-term price of the Model 3 will be. In addition to being well later (Tesla track record), I doubt it will have a $35K price point for quite a while (Tesla track record).

GM can afford to sell the bolt at a loss. Tesla can only afford to burn Wall Street’s billions but for so long before they want to see profit.

Zim said:

“GM can afford to sell the bolt at a loss. Tesla can only afford to burn Wall Street’s billions but for so long before they want to see profit.”

You’ve swallowed the lies of the Tesla bashers. Tesla makes a profit on every car, a profit significantly higher than the industry average.

Tesla is spending more every year to expand its business than it earns in profits, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t make those profits… despite what the Tesla bashers claim.

Investing money in future growth is not “losing” money. It’s not lost, it’s invested.

Nissan hasn’t made a firm commitment to a 200-mile BEV yet. Everything seems to point to an extended 2016 30kWh production run (well into 2017), followed by a Q2 2017 release of the second generation LEAF which might not be 200-mile capable.

The language from Nissan seems to suggest that they will start with a ~48kWh pack. Palmer said 120-150 miles and Ghosn has said “double” the range of the early 24kWh pack. IDS is the latest hint from Nissan which implies around 220 miles with a 60kWh pack.

Either way, Nissan will be arriving to the party about 3-6 months late. I don’t think I would be willing to wait that long, even if I liked Nissan.

Chevy dealers will try their hardest to NOT sell the Bolt.

Expect first class service on that:

Bolt what!

Sure our cars have bolts and they have a gas tank too!

Bolt arrives Q4 2016. Leaf 2.0 arrives Q2 2017. Model III arrives Q4 2017 (maybe?). Focus EV 2.0 arrives 2018 (WAG). eGolf 2.0 arrives 2018 (another WAG). However this really goes down, the next 2 years will be very interesting and exciting. Far better than the abysmal 2015!

I hope you are correct with those launch date guesses. But I think a number of the companies are taking a wait & see attitude. They’ll wait to see if there is a real market for these long range EVs before building & shipping their own.

It really is going to depend on how well they can push down battery prices. If they really can start building 200+ mile EPA-rated range vehicles in the $30K to $50K range . . . I think they will sell. How well they sell will depend on a lot on the price of gas, climate change initiatives, EV incentives, etc.

But if they can get batteries down to the $100/KWH level . . . EVs are going to take off big time.

“Bolt arrives Q4 2016. Leaf 2.0 arrives Q2 2017. Model III arrives Q4 2017 (maybe?).”

I would guess that Bolt arrives Q4/2016. LEAF 2.0 arrives around Q3/2017 as 2018 model and Model 3 arrives in Q4/2018.

Technically, Nissan has repeatedly commited to releasing the Leaf 2.0 by the end of Q1 2017. I am allowing for some slip, but what is the reason for your expected 3-6 month delay? Just curious.

Regarding Tesla, you are probably closer than I am, hence the (big) question mark.

Brian said:

“Model III arrives Q4 2017 (maybe?)”

Possible, but doubtful based on Tesla’s history. They are making noises about getting the Model ≡ out on time, but experience says they won’t be able to do it despite good intentions.

My guess is Q3 2018 at the earliest for volume deliveries, altho we may see a literal handful before then… just like we saw a literal handful, or less, of deliveries during the first three months for the Model X.

And I won’t be at all surprised if deliveries in quantity don’t happen before 2019.

And not to forget the year of selling super upgraded versions until the base version comes out.

They might as well be earlier this time, no one knows.

Yes, but I said “arrives”, by which I mean the first delivery occurs. So by that measure, the Model X “arrived” in Q3 2015 (half a dozen delivered in September). Clearly they still haven’t started volume deliveries. I think Tesla is highly motivated to make some token deliveries in 2017, and has a fair shot at delivering a Signature Edition Model III or two.

But even that was caveated with a “maybe?”. It could easily slip as far as Q3 2018. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.

Speaking as a Leaf owner and a committed environmentalist, I REALLY hope the Bolt is insanely successful. My biggest fears with the Bolt:

1. The EPA range. Thanks to GM’s pronouncements, the whole planet is expecting this magic number to be at least 200 miles, but until we know for sure it could result in a letdown. I think an EPA rating of, say, 190 would not be an issue, but 170? Ouch…

2. The price. Again, we have GM’s very aggressive promises, and reality comes a little later.

3. Commercial/market issues. This is the catch-all category where I put things like Chevy dealers being buttheads about cars with plugs, the lack of a reasonable 5th seat hurting Volt sales, etc.

Right now, if forced to bet, I’d say GM keeps their promises on range an price, but delivers some shortcomings on the car content and continues to struggle with the knuckle-dragging dealers.

The dealer issue is overblown IMO. In the grand scheme of things, it is a brief bump in the road to pass over. Go to and find dealers you can deal with at a satisfactory and fair price point. Before you walk into any dealer, you ought to know what you are looking for and what you will pay.

Not to worry on the range. I think the GM engineers know exactly what the mileage number will be. That’s true for all the major manufacturers. Even the VW engineers knew exactly what the results would be sans the defeat device. If the Bolt couldn’t hit the range number we’d know about it by know. Might be 202 or 205 or even 210, but it won’t be 195.

GM will hit the price target. Now how naked the base will be is a different question. The Volt has come reasonably equipped. My guess would be the Bolt will be similar.

Not much can be done with the dealers. Between the dealers and GM marketing the Bolt will have some challenges.

True. I forgot VW must have known what was behind everyone’s surprise to find more mpg. They shut down the diesel flow, used to catalyse the lean NOx trap.

Maybe more so in the north, but Bolt range shatters the “glass ceiling” of what I think a lot of hold-outs treat as enough. Could become the “Klenex” of EVs, if they make enough.

My guess is a Bolt LT may be $37,500 and a loaded Bolt Premier may be $43,000.

so should i get a two or three year lease on my 2017 Volt?

I don’t know if I would want to keep hearing the same complaints that I hear now about the lack of headroom in the backseat from passengers in my Volt. I wish GM would make a Volt CUV or estate/wagon model. The Bolt with its apparently capacious rear-seat headroom and small parking-space footprint are a good fit for urban dwellers like myself, especially without the drawback of the i3’s suicide doors.

Honestly, it depends on if you’re waiting for a Bolt, a Model III, Leaf 2.0 or some other EV. I personally am waiting for a Model III so if/when I get a Volt, I’ll go ahead and do a 5 year finance deal since I’ll likely not get the first iteration of the Model III. Tesla made significant improvements to the Model S a few years after initial release, I expect the same would happen to the Model X and Model III.

I would go for a 3-year lease. You will have more options in 3 years than you will have in 2. Plus, it’s less expensive per year than a 2-year lease.

While, like many others here, I am glad that there will be greater choices in EVs in the next few years, I’ll be waiting for the Model III and I’ll tell you why. 1) Supercharger network – Tesla is the only one who has it and the cost is folded into the price of the vehicle. I don’t expect that the public chargers that may come out to support the Bolt and Leaf 2.0 will get that deal. 2) EV Commitment – Tesla is the only OEM that builds strictly EVs and is doing so because they genuinely want to. They will have three plug-ins with the Model III and they will not stop there. I don’t think the other OEMs are nearly as committed. If they were, I think we’d be seeing more production intent concepts at auto shows. Instead, Nissan has one plug-in and might have two soon; GM has two and will continue to only have two (I expect the Bolt will replace the Spark EV); who knows what Ford will do when they discontinue the C-Max Energi (I think the Fusion Energi and FFEV will be hanging around a while longer); and then there is the… Read more »

“GM has two and will continue to only have two ”

I guess we continue to slap ELR in the face. LOL.

If we count ELR, it will be 3 and continue to be 3 until 2017 launch of CT6 PHEV which will make it a 4.

The Cadillac ELR is only a compliance car, and compliance cars don’t count. Or at least, they don’t count for much.

There may be a Lull.

Those great brain BMW German ‘Imports’ in charge at Caddy will probally discontinue the ELR long before the ct6 phev is saleable.

They’ll probably run out of GEN 1 voltecs anyway.

Maybe the reason Japanese LEAF sales are slow is because they have inside information that Nissan is bringing the 2017 LEAF out late 2016 with 200 mile range as well to blindside Chevy and directly compete with the Bolt. Say it ain’t so…hmmmm.

It is possible. But can it do it with only $37.5K price sticker?

Nissan already claimed that their battery price is inferior to LG Chem. So, either they have to make the car nicer for higher price or cheaper somehow by saving cost elsewhere…

Where is GM’s Gigafactory? I suspect that Bolt can scale to large numbers because of the shortage of battery supply.

Why do you need it if LG Chem is your supplier?

Plus, if GM can’t even sell 30K of them, then why would they bother with Gigafactory?

GM couldn’t even sell 45K Volt per year as it originally predicated, then why would it need any forms of “giga anything”…

There aren’t enough demand for it.

2015 is experiencing the first YOY drop in PEV sales.

ModernMarvelFan said:

“…if GM can’t even sell 30K of them, then why would they bother with Gigafactory?

“GM couldn’t even sell 45K Volt per year as it originally predicated, then why would it need any forms of ‘giga anything’…”

It’s a reasonable short-term business strategy.

But long term, that’s exactly the sort of thinking that lead to Kodak going bankrupt in 2012. “Oh, we can wait until our rivals show there’s really a market for digital cameras. If there is, then we can always catch up.”

Except that those who lag behind in a disruptive tech revolution find they can’t catch up. That’s why tech revolutions put so many formerly leading companies out of business.

Tesla, BYD, and Nissan have built or are building their own factories for making EV battery cells. They are the companies which will be poised to take advantage when EV sales finally take off, and go into exponential growth.

The other auto makers must do so themselves, and soon, or they will find themselves struggling, and failing, to play catch-up.

GM will be buying batteries from LG, so it’s LG’s production capacity that matters.

It doesn’t take that long to build or expand battery factories if demand dictates.

Ugly cheap looking econo turd

Design is very important, I love electric cars and would NEVER want to be seen in this thing. I have style.

I’ll be waiting for Model 3… or a CPO Model S which will be cheaper than a fully loaded Model 3 when it comes out

If I were a gambling man,
I would wager hard currency that the Bolt will beat the Model 3 to market by a full 2 years.
I can’t see how the unwashed masses are gonna keep the Supercharger’s lights on.
Go Tesla!

This is great news.