General Motors CEO: Chevrolet Bolt Is Our Platform For A Huge Range Of Vehicles – Video Interview

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CNET’s Roadshow had the opportunity to interview General Motors CEO Mary Barra at the 2017 NAIAS.

Mary Barra Excited To Discuss Bolt

Mary Barra Excited To Discuss Bolt

Video description:

“The boss of GM gives us the scoop on the Chevy Bolt and the future of EVs in the company’s portfolio.”

Just prior to the 1-minute mark (the discussion after the Volt & Bolt mention turns to the Camaro, trucks and other non plug-ins), Barra discusses how the gen 1 Chevy Volt evolved into the gen 2 Volt and was followed up by the Chevrolet Bolt.

Barra goes on the say that:

“…the Bolt is our platform that we’re going to continue on and have a huge range of vehicles.”

She notes that general Motors hasn’t announced any of these vehicles yet, but they’re coming and we’re intrigued.

A small electric SUV perhaps?

Update (Jan 13th): Later in the show CNET also caught up to Mark Reuss, General Motors’ product boss and re-confirmed Barra’s earlier statements on product expansion (see video below). Reuss mentioned when asked if an all-electric Cruze was in GM’s future, that more offerings were en route.

“The platform that we got here (Bolt EV) is really the platform of the future for us…this is a great platform for us, it really is our future”

(hat tip to IEV reader WadeTyhon for the heads up)

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I’ll take Volt-sized sedan/hatchback personally. I’d like to see it in a Malibu sized sedan & Equinox size SUV for the mainstream consumer. Maybe an 70kWh to 80kWh version for a Chevy Traverse plug-in.

Barra’s Words & way of thinking & Her entire demineur & input about EV’s…in general ….I couldn’t finish watching the interview Barra & the other woman too, Excited about Cadillacs & SUVs & The Lower Gas prices., made me So Sick that I had to Run to the toilet to THROW UP!

For these people it has always ONLY been about their money and it always will be. Hence they are looking forward to the Trump era.

I hate to detract from the utopian viewpoint, but every single business is in business to make money. Public companies even moreso, as the company officers have a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. Making money is good. Losing money is bad.

Even “not for profit” corporations are certainly not “for loss” either.

If it wasn’t for the People’s Money GM would have been Historectomy Long ago …It’s the Higher Up Executives CEO’s CFO’s Etc: that grab all the money & give themselves Huge Raises & Bonuses when times are Good, ie:like Now..Then When they have a Bad year , they Cry for Help , after They themselves Robbed the Company Bank Prior . The People That Head these Big Corporation have too much Control , Grab $$$ and Run ,They are the Problem..

Haven’t I spelled “ONLY” big enough for you?

Well, I don’t mind a company thriving economically. But when they purposely promote pollution of the air that I breathe then I run out of compassion for them getting richer and richer.

Then I hope you don’t support any company. Every company has a pollution footprint and pollutes. You may agree with some or disagree with others, but that’s a fact.

From your groceries, to your energy in your home… Even if renewable, that comes from a manufacturing footprint that pollutes.

It’s easy to get all pompous and look down on a company like GM, but the reality is they’re one of the more progressive companies switching to electrified transportation. It is absolutely foolish to expect a company to talk badly about their own products just because they’re not electric; products that, by the way, sell very well and are obviously in demand by consumers.

By “these people”, I assume you mean “everybody”.

Hey dude I TOTALLY agree. What the hell is this hypocracy…either you’re a total advocate for EV-technology or you’re into stupid SUVs which ruin the wallets of average Joes.

unlike you, barra is running a business. in order to run a business, you have to sell product that customers want to buy.

And yet GM has failed to electrify the best selling market sectors of vehicles in the US; midsize sedans, and AWD CUV’s/SUV’s.

So how exactly does that work, that everything is just the fault of the free market, and GM and all the other ICE car makers are just poor pawns of the free market?

Do ICE car companies bear any responsibility for the cars they choose to electrify and build? While they simultaneously lobby against regulations that would hold them accountable for building vehicles that pollute?

How are buyers supposed to vote with their dollars that they want an AWD CUV EV/PHEV, when ICE companies have been seeming to avoid building them like the plague?

it’s not as though nobody is buying small cars. the chevrolet Cruze sells 10 times the volume of the chevrolet Volt. why do you think the pattern would be any different if GM went to larger cars?

it’s easy for you to bemoan auto companies for not producing the cars that you personally want. but launching an automobile is an expensive proposition, and they need to cater to more than just your personal tastes.

that’s how it works…

That’s funny, I didn’t mention what I personally want. I specifically mentioned the best selling market sectors.

Small cars sales are down 10% last year, with the Chevrolet Cruze and Ford Focus losing a combined 71,000 sales over 2015.

Meanwhile, the midsize Malibu volume rose 17% in 2016, and the four best-selling SUVs/crossovers in America all reported record sales, with overall SUV/CUV sales up 8%.

I’m not talking about my tastes. I’m talking about what the market is saying.

I ask again, how is just an issue of them selling products that customers want to buy, when no ICE car makers have put out BEV’s that fit these market trends? They specifically are NOT selling cars in the market sectors that customers want to buy the most.

you ignored by comment: when GM put a PHEV in the small car segment, it sold in substantially lower volume than a comparable ICE small car. there is no evidence that the trend would be any different in a larger car segment.

furthermore, i am sure that GM did market research that you haven’t done. if there is no evidence that the general public considers electrification to be an important attribute in a car, then there is no evidence that people will ditch ICEVs for *EVs.

the ramblings of the EV enthusiasts on this forum are an inadequate basis upon which an auto maker can make an economic decision on whether to introduce a car model.

I ignored you trying to switch the topic, and you repeatedly being unable to support your original comment. Since you’ve clearly ceded that due to your repeated lack of response, let me also decimate your attempt to change the topic away from your original comment. There is massive supporting evidence that sales in larger EV’s would be better. All of which an insideev’s regular like yourself would have to be intentionally blind to not know about already. 1) Massive success of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV in Europe. 2) Massive success of the BYD Tang in China. 3) Profit margin in CUV’s/SUV’s is much larger than small cars, giving car makers much more room to still sell at a profit. 4) Tesla has taken a much larger percent of market share in the large luxury car market than any other EV maker has taken out of the small car market. Tesla’s strategy of starting at the top has been more successful as a percent of market share than any any other EV in their markets. 5) Replacing a midsize ICE car or SUV/CUV saves more money per year than replacing a small car. That gives the advantage to midsize and CUV/SUV’s… Read more »
when you look at the demographic of tesla buyers, they are at the high end. when it comes to market share, an honest accounting would recognize that the model S occupies a price range that includes mercedes benz e-class *and* mercedes benz s-class. so, while tesla has done quite well, they are still pretty small potatoes, and when you include mercedes benz e-class (bmw 5-series, and comparable cars), the market share numbers are quite a bit smaller. when it comes to that demographic, maybe you have forgotten that GM *did* put a PHEV in that product space, it was called the cadillac ELR. it sold in numbers significantly less than have the tesla model S. a larger PHEV runs into all kinds of problems: you’re still got to make room for the gas tank, but you now need room for a bigger battery. so something has got to give: you either go for a smaller battery, which means so little range that people might think: “why bother”; or you go for a bigger battery, which means that there is less room for something else. so people are going to look at the ICEV version, and they are going to look… Read more »

No comment — No, the BMW 7 Series, 5-Series, and the A8 and A6 and the S and E’s have NEVER been considered to all compete in the same market sector.

But this is how sad your argument is. Even if you ignore decades of clearly recognized market sectors and put them all together as if they were one single market sector, Tesla STILL holds a massively larger market share of this fictional made up market sector than any other EV maker holds in the small car sector.

Even when you fabricate a magical market sector by combining multiple well established market sectors, you are still wrong.

Is there any way to find out what % of Malibu sales were the hybrid version?

Autoblog posts a breakdown that includes the Malibu Hybrid. Depending on the month it seems to be ~3.5-4.5% of all Malibu sales.

~2% for the year, but the car wasn’t available the first few months of the year.

Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid
December 790
2016 Total 4,332

i’ve never seen any data indicating that hybrid sales have ever been all that impressive compared to the ICEV equivalent. with the price of gasoline being low, it might be a bit of a challenge to get people to pay thousands of dollars more for the hybrid version of the malibu.

The greatest electric car manufacturer in the world, despite hundreds of millions in subsidies,has been unable to generate a single annual profit.

There is no way to make a profit when you are expanding and hence reinvesting. Don’t you know about Tesla’s effort in building the gigafactory ASAP?

I wonder why people keep forgetting that. Do they express the same criticism of e.g. Amazon?

They used to. They used to make the same stupid claims that was “losing” money, just as they’re now saying about Tesla. And they didn’t stop until decided it had grown to a sufficiently large size — it’s now the worlds #1 retailer — after which Amazon tapered off its growth, and started regularly showing a net profit.

I find it truly astounding how so many people who clearly understand the technical details of finances better than I do, are so blind to the obvious: That investing money in future growth is not losing money!

GM did come out with a hybrid Malibu based somewhat on the voltec drivetrain. So, midsize sedan enough? I would prefer if it had been a PHEV, but it’s a start.

@”no comment” and Nix: You’re both talking past each other, you both have made some valid points, but frankly neither of you is acknowledging the points the other is making. Let’s step back and look at the reality of the financial situation here. The reality is that for less expensive cars — and that includes the vast majority of small cars such as the Cruz — EVs are still too expensive to compete. So, “no comment”, talking about the fact that a small care like the Volt isn’t selling in numbers comparable to the Cruz, really misses the point. It’s been said by many that in general, gasmobile makers are only offering PEVs in market segments where they don’t have even a single gasmobile which sells in good numbers. For example, it’s been said that the Volt and the Bolt are both aimed at market segments which won’t compete with any of GM’s better selling cars. So I presume that’s sufficiently true to be considered a valid general rule, even if there is at least one exception: The Mitsubishi Outlander. Now, Nix, we must concede that legacy auto makers don’t make as good a profit margin off PEVs as they… Read more »

I sure hope a plug in hybrid SUV and truck are in the works. Or at least a hybrid. The benefits of a battery on these cars would make a huge difference.

But good to hear that the next products are already in the works. Looking forward to seeing what is next.

“Maybe an 70kWh to 80kWh version for a Chevy Traverse plug-in.”

I was really hoping the new Traverse was going to come with a plug-in option like Pacifica did. I would have been perfectly happy with 30kWh – 40kWh.

The show overall was a huge disappointment. The “lower for longer” gas prices she stated is probably accurate and the automakers are reacting (like the early 2000s).

So Kdawg, I have to ask, do you share the mid-west accent with Mrs Barra? Is it a Kettering graduation requirement? j/k

I’m sure I have some kind of accent but I don’t have the stronger, Detroit-style one Mary has. It’s a variation of the Chicago accent. You can really hear it in the “a’s”. For example, many from Detroit say “baygs” when pronouncing bags (bahgs)

Is that why air terminal intercoms say “Please, remove all bayggage”?

Haha, thanks for the reply.

Have a bunch of friends from that region, so I am fond of the accent. Was just trying to poke a little fun at your Kettering connection with her.

Bring on an Equinox plug-in EV. I’m taking my wife for a test ride in a Volt tommorrow at 1pm, cause the Bolt isn’t coming to Winnipeg anytime soon (no incentives in a 95+o/o hydro power Province with low air polution A GM Dealer Executive told me Bolts are only going to BC, Ontario & Quebec Dealerships this year, because they have incentives. What a ridiculous missed opportunity for our Province of Manitoba Canada.

“improving the efficiency of the internal combustion engine” MY ASS!

Another industrial point of view

You mean your ass is an efficient internal combustion engine ?

Or that his as is as efficient as an internal combustion engine.

Speaking Of ASS..A flame about 4feet High would Really Burn my Ass… ha ha ha… l o l ….

Which part of your ass is disturbed by Barra’s statement that GM keeps improving the efficiency of the IC engine? It’s true.

I guess ‘tosho’ is implying that the car industry has improved the efficiency of their combustion engine products in the past mainly by lobbying poiticians into weaker environmental requirements and by using every yet so little loop hole in regulations so that the mpg-numbers strangely go up on specification sheets but not on everyones gas bills.

They’re implying that EV’s are Less necessary Now….False Efficiency..

They’re implying nothing. It’s a simple statement of fact. Even Dan Sperling, a Board Member of CARB and a huge ZEV advocate, has stated that the industry can meet CAFE standards without a total shift to electrification. The existence of a 2L 4-cylinder Camaro that is lighter and accelerates faster than the Glorious Z28s of yore with over 28mpg at modern highway speeds and >90% reduction in HC, CO and NOx is real. The modern ICE is quite satisfactory to GMs customers, but nonetheless the company is pushing ahead with a considerable electrification effort.

At the same time they’re achieving record profits, a nice share buyback program, superior dividend and very large CapEx and R&D.

Barra has kicked butt as a CEO. GM no longer depends on a huge low-margin fleet sale program and their non-US operations are going gangbusters.

Perhaps I should parrot the tone of the recent election: are you a misogynist?

“…>90% reduction in HC, CO and NOx is real.”

Are those reductions real, or faked?

News just today: The EPA is now accusing Fiat-Chrysler (and not just Volkswagen) of cheating on their “clean diesel” emissions tests:

If you only knew more about electric vehicles. Put your butt into a real plug in EV & do more than drive around the block please. No air & virtually no noise polution and the cost of operation for some of them could provide 20 years of driving for $0 investment in both purchase price and operation cost. We’d one the math and this is a very conservative calculation. Thanks for listening. Your test ride will shock you

The next gen engines that Toyota introduced a couple of week’s ago are 40% efficient for the regular ICE and 41% efficient for the Atkinson-cycle ICE for hybrids. Toyota claims these next gen engines will be 10% more powerful and 20% more fuel efficient than the ones they will be replacing.

The 2018 Toyota Camry introduced this week at the Detroit auto show will have one of these next gen engines, so we can compare the fuel efficiency improvement when Toyota posts EPA mileage figure. Toyota did say that the 2018 Camry Hybrid will have class leading MPG figures. The current class leader is the Honda Accord, which gets 48 mpg Combined, 49 mpg City, and 47 mpg Highway. If priced right, a 50+ mpg Camry might indeed compete with BEVs and PHEVs for buyers who aren’t already EV enthusiasts. These regular Joe’s might feel that a 50+ mpg Camry is good enough, especially when looking at the annual fueling cost on, and choose the Camry Hybrid over a BEV/PHEV. The same might hold true for a slightly less expensive high MPG regular ICE Camry.

I wonder if all these direct-injected (GDI) engines are going to become “new diesels” in terms of emissions?

Corning, the main player in the Cat Convertor space, has a new play for GDI engines. It’s been announced at several investor forums, and they definitely think it has a large future..

So yea, there is a emissions hit for GDI, but there is already a emissions treatment plan for that.

sven said:

“The next gen engines that Toyota introduced a couple of week’s ago are 40% efficient for the regular ICE and 41% efficient for the Atkinson-cycle ICE for hybrids.”

And almost certainly, just like all claims for reducing the horrible inefficiency of the ICEngine, those percentages refer only to bench tests with the engine running at its most efficient speed, which gasmobiles almost never do in real-world driving. In practice, the speed at which gasmobile engines spend most of their time running give them an efficiency much, much less than that of their most efficient running speed. Something less than half the claimed efficiency, as I recall.

As a reminder, EVs are typically at least 3.5 times as energy efficient as a car of similar size, and I think the new generation of PEVs (Plug-in EVs) are averaging even better.

No to put to fine a point on it, but GDI is real, an is here now, from multiple manufactures – its WAY past the “on the bench phase” – It’s generally acknowledged to get about a 15% mileage gain in cars, and that’s fairly consistent across manufacturers – See:

The issue, and why this has been done before is particulate emissions – which are about 1K WORSE than an normal ICE – Whcih makes GDI very similar to a Diesel in terms of particulate emissions – So currently, you pretty much have to add particulate emissions after-treatment via an exhaust filter, versus a standard CC – (hence the Corning note above), it’s also more complex with a much higher PSI fuel pump (typically like 2K PSI versus 50 PSI for an ICE) –

So yea, GDI is real, and it’s definitely going to be big – It does add costs, and gets most ICE’s a 15% mileage gain – Still not the same as a EV, but 15% across the industry is rather significant

Pushi to your credit you are not saying anything that anyone else with you point of view is saying. But it really is apples and oranges. The starting point of the efficiency is different between battery power and the Prius prime with a tankfull of gasoline is much different – Using your numbers from other posts you have made (except you used kwh and I’m using british thermal units), it only takes 15,000 btu of processing to get 125,000 btu of energy storage. Even if you include the crappy ethanol-laden stuff, its still 90% efficient from crude oil to gasoline in the tank. It takes an Incredible amount of processing to get energy into an electric car. The way I do it is the most straightforward, direct way, but the sunshine on my roof is only converted into electricity at about a 14% efficiency, on a good day. Then the battery charge efficiency in moderate weather is only around 75%. In cold or hot weather things get much worse, while gasoline in the tank stays the same – even the vapors are captured and utilized the next time the engine runs. 40% efficiency of the Prius Prime really is fantastic… Read more »

Improvements are still being made. As an EV advocate, it’s painful to admit but the ICE improvements are still less expensive than adding battery technology to these cars…and it’s all about margin. Automotive is extremely competitive and margins are tight. GM stock has been stuck in the low $30s despite strong quarterly results for many many quarters. Capital investment has already been made in engine manufacturing plants, so for the next decade those resources will have to be squeezed to get the best ROI. I hope to see a transition of investment away from ICE technology but it will take many years for the product mix to completely switch over.

I guess that’s why GM won’t give out the exact platform identifier for the Bolt. Barra’s statement basically confirms that there are multiple other vehicles based off the Bolt’s platform in the works.

Revealing the platform identifier would have let suppliers figure it out.

You would have to be crazy to not expect GM to build other vehicles off the Bolt platform. Given the positive reviews it sounds like the got the platform right. The only criticism has been the seats and some of the interior materials. Those things are easily fixable in a Buick Electra sedan. Just add a few inches to the wheelbase, knock off an inch in headroom and increase the overhangs and you have a nice roomy sedan. Granted I could also see them making a AWD Trax EV as well. That would probably be easier for them to do. The Bolt is already really close in size, but with a longer wheelbase.

Another industrial point of view

“The only criticism has been the seats and some of the interior materials”.

I hope that very soon some savings can be made on battery cost as to provide better seats and interior materials. EV buyers are often well to do people, at least here in Europe. I foresee some issues when posh Norwegians have a look at the interior of this car. I hope that Opel thought about it for the interior of the AmperaE. For example it must be very easy to dump those seats and provide some up to standards.

Or an EV version of the Buick Encore. Those seem to be very popular where I live.

I want to see BEVs with real towing capacity and advance autonomous features like stop and go ACC and lane centering.

If one of those future vehicles is a TRUE SUV (sorry, Bolt ain’t even a CUV), I would think they would need to have towing capability.

This does make me question the role of the VOLT in GM’s future. I can see the Voltec powertrain being put into a wider range of vehicles, but the Volt itself? It really isn’t necessary anymore from a compliance standpoint. And if GM does indeed proliferate the powertrain to other vehicles, the Volt itself would be redundant.

Unless GM turns the Volt into a pure tech halo car, it doesn’t have much reason to make a Gen 3 Volt.

At the very least, the Volt program’s a useful hedge on battery and power technology capability and price. We don’t know where everything will end up.

We also don’t know whether or when autonomy will be successful.

At the very least there are transitional issues with plug-ins that will make it valuable for at least another generation.

Volt will be with us for awhile as many will not go pure BEV.

His points is that if the Bolt suffices for compliance, GM has less need to sell the Volts. So given that it’s relative low volume and limited markets now, will they bother with a Gen 3? Or might they just have a PHEV version of something else?

I think there is still a huge market, and potential market for the Volt. We are still in plug-in infancy. When many start transitioning from gassers to plug-ins, they are going to want a PHEV vs. a BEV. Also, the Volt is profitable, so it makes sense for Chevy to sell more of them.

I think it’s pretty clear now that GM’s electrification is not about compliance.

If it were the Volt and Bolt EV wouldn’t exist and only the Spark EV would exist (and still exist).

That’s right. The Spark EV is merely a compliance car. The Bolt isn’t, and neither is the Volt.

GM isn’t exactly jumping into the EV revolution with both feet, but it seems pretty clear they want to develop the technology sufficiently far to be able to move in that direction once the market starts significantly shifting. GM doesn’t want to be caught like Eastman Kodak was in the digital camera revolution, letting other companies take the lead and ignoring that so long that when they finally tried to catch up, it was too late.

I think it should be pretty clear that GM has a long term commitment to the Volt. Look at how quickly the went back to the drawing board and completely redesigned Gen I, even though sales of Gen I didn’t really support much reinvestment. The Volt is GM’s Prius and I think GM is taking the long view on this one.

I’m wondering if they got discouraged due to the failure of the ELR. They shouldn’t, that was just the wrong niche . . . as I constantly say: Fox News watching Grandpa doesn’t want a plug-in Caddy.

I don’t consider the ELR a “failure” because they made/sold exactly what they had planned too. It was always intended to be a short-run, low-production vehicle. There’s a lot of these types of vehicles in the world.

What Kdawg said. GM priced it intentionally to be out of reach of regular buyers, for just exclusive buyers. See this story:

You are right on with the production intent.

I would say the failure was releasing the Volt before the ELR. People would have paid the premium to be first, ala Tesla Signature.

C’mon. Let’s be real . . . if it was not a failure they would not have cancelled it. Sales were terrible and it was a bad idea.

They need to take the “L”, learn from it, and move on.


You are right. However a sexy senior citizen (70yrs young), who watches CNN & American Hero Channel, will test drive the first Bolt that arrives into Manitoba Canada, just as I’ll do with the first Tesla 3 that lands here, whomever owns it.

Excellent, sir! Get as much publicity for the plug-ins as you can.

The same argument could be used for the Prius, especially if the Camry Hybrid really has “class-leading” MPG figures.

1% improvement every 5 years is not an improvement Mary!

1% improvement every year for 100 years 100% Plus +++++….In 100 years the Ice will be giving us Gas ,instead . l m a o…

If the people who wanted to test drive at auto show was any indication, there’s practically zero interest in Camaro and others, and almost 100% interest in Bolt. Even the new traverse display did not entice as many viewers as Bolt display.

By the way, she’s looking better by the day. What’s going on?

That secret is usually Diet , Plastic Surgery, & Maybe Divorce.

No, that’s not it. I saw the video again, and she suddenly looked incredibly hot when talking about taking Bolt platform to other vehicles. Wikipedia says she’s not divorced.

Not Divorced, Good!, Then it must Diet or a Little Nip & Tuck 0r perhaps Both, along with the success of this “Carbon Compliance Bolt” That will give them the GREEN Light to build More GAS GUZZLERS which is their TRUE 0bvious Agenda.

You are so right on!

Another industrial point of view

For sure she has that cute milfy look, and on top of that the is an efficient CEO. Nice person.

> “cute milfy look”

And people call me out on my comment below!

You’re pathetic.

Another (Euro) industrial point of view

Well, most prudes headed west 100 years ago, so a whole continent full of people like me here. Can you imagine ?

Aipv — Did you really have to go there? How about Lutz, do you think he is a Filf?

Another (Euro) industrial point of view

Hard for me to say, he is not my type.

Whatever the next vehicle after the Bolt is, it should be all-wheel drive.

As long as PEVs don’t have all-wheel drive available it will limit the market.

You’ll have to ask LG what they’re developing to put into GM’s next gliders…

Are you intentionally this dense?

You mean what parts LG may build that GM engineered and designed for LG to build? Seriously, troll be trollin’

Don’t you know that Anon is the biggest GM hating A-hole here.

You can and you will consistently finding him on any/all GM related articles to make swipes at GM in every way he can.

He is probably a paid GM critics or seems to be with every comments he has made. But typically, he doesn’t have much to offer in his comments beside his hating.

bro1999 said:

“You mean what parts LG may build that GM engineered and designed for LG to build? Seriously, troll be trollin’ ”

It gets a bit tiresome reading comments from people who claim that GM designed either 100% of the Bolt’s powertrain, or none of it, based on whether they’re a GM fanboy or not.

As usual in the real world, the truth lies somewhere in between. According to the article linked below, LG Electronics designed the battery pack, and GM apparently designed everything else in the powertrain, including the interface between the battery pack and the motor… by which I guess the article means the power electronics including the inverter.

See: “Bolt EV Powertrain: How Did GM And LG Collaborate On Design, Production?”

You REALLY need to stop embarrassing yourself with those LG comments. You obviously have no idea what goes into the development of a propulsion system or vehicle electronics or how it is integrated with the rest of the vehicle. Yes, in the case of the Bolt, LG was given design responsibility, but GM still does all the testing to verify the design. In all other cases, GM DESIGNS and tests the entire propulsion system right down to the power electronics. The do this in Pontiac MI at their Global Propulsion Systems HQ. I’ve seen the power electronics labs, dyno cells, environmental chambers, etc. The fact that LG did it for the Bolt, doesn’t mean GM can’t do it. I suspect it was purely a decision based on cost. GM designed the Gen I/II Volt motors and power electronics, which have proven very reliable.

Anon is the biggest anti-GM troll here.

Just ignore him. Don’t waste your time on him.

An All Wheel Drive EV SPORTY Car…& how about Some “Fast Chargers” @ The GM Stealerships., If they are Truly Serious about “ELECTRIC CARS” …I have a STRONG feeling GM is only Complying to fulfill their Main AGENDA!..

Boy, you guys are rough on GM. They took a bigger step into electrification than just about anyone beyond Tesla with the gen 1 Volt, and despite only modest sales, went ahead with a gen 2 Volt.. Indeed, now the gen 2 Volt sales are also modest, and yet they proceed with the first semi-affordable 200+ mile EV AND state they will launch future products based on that platform.

It’s easy to blame manufacturers, but my experience is the general public is just not that into EVs. My friends and family know I had a Volt for 3 years and now drive a Tesla…most are still entirely uninterested in any kind of plug-in for their next car. Right now there is stilla chicken/egg problem with EVs and demand (i.e. build it and they will come or wait until they ask and then build it). Right now GM is going farther, IMO, than any other full line auto maker in trying to walk the line between the overwhelmingly more popular (and, um, oh yeah, profitable) ICE vehicles and the inevitable future of EVs.

You are making valid points and I have to agree.
Just test drove a Prius Prime yesterday that I finally found (here in Alabama !) and the dealer had to admit that the car is just sitting there. He is actually looking into trading the car with another dealer in a more EV friendly state for an ICE vehicle. So sad…

Stealerships.. Take the path of LEAST RESISTANCE. They BAIT & SWITCH they Push ICE vehicles “Their Bread & Butter”. HENCE The Main Reason Tesla Wants to sell Their Own Cars…Dealers always Steer Customers away from EV’s and/0r Discourage EV’s that is a Fact!

Went to a local toyota dealership and asked to see a prime but was told they couldn’y keep one on the lot as it sold as they came in, plenty of regular priuses. Seems like they will sell well here in California at least

Don’t think most posters here are that rough on GM. My Spark EV and Volt have been flawless. 🙂

But a few of the more trollish posters got up early today. People should just ignore them and not reply directly to them I think.

Always remind yourself, that you have entered the Tesla Temple of Worship here. They are insecure about their favorite, which amazes me, considering how good of a product Tesla makes.

Lol they’re definitely around. As I said some trollish ones did show up this morning.

But I used to visit Electrek where comments are often devoid of fact and are typically pure emotional reactions that Tesla is God and GM is the Devil. Stopped visiting there entirely.

I normally find the inside evs posters, even those I disagree and debate with with, to be refreshingly reasonable. 🙂

AlphaEdge, I certainly do give you points for your strong refutation and sharp takedown of Mark B. Spiegel’s anti-Tesla posts just the other day.

On the other hand, your attitude that we Tesla fanboys are “paranoid” for thinking there’s a conspiracy of short-sellers posting anti-Tesla posts… well, that shows a fairly amusing naivety on your part. Just go over to Seeking Alpha sometime, and read a few of the Tesla related blog posts… and the dozens or hundreds of comments that follow. It won’t take long until you start seeing a very similar pattern to many of them; a pattern which is repeated in all too many of the posts here on InsideEVs. You’ll also see a few screen names which unfortunately are also familiar to InsideEVs readers; names such as tftf, Dr. ValueSeeker… and of course, Mark B. Spiegel (aka “Logical Thought”).

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.” — Joseph Heller, Catch-22

“…most are still entirely uninterested in any kind of plug-in for their next car.”
Maybe they don’t “get” them; or are sceptical or even worse, afraid of them plugins .. taking into account what the media chose to put out back in the early Tesla S days, I’m not surprised.

And the automakers and dealers aren’t helping either:

Yes, I don’t understand why some here don’t realize that car makers make the cars that people ask to buy. So if only 1% of the market is asking for plug-ins, it’s actually surprising as many are made as there are. Automakers can’t tell people to buy plug-ins. But if upset people want more plug-ins to be sold, then spread the word to the consumers. If sales continue to increase, automakers will continue supply them and expand. We are at the point now where there are several options/flavors, that are reasonable in cost. Do we need more? Yes. But I think automakers like GM, with 5 electric cars under their belt, including a Gen2 version, are doing their part more-so than other automakers.

What we really want are smaller batteries, tires and multi-colored exteriors. The numbers show it.

Oversized Giant corporations are PUBLIC ENEMY #1 Then comes Government, 0r is it the other way around?/ lol…They Compromise Our Safety & well Being for $$$ Money $$$..remember How many people Burned to Death in the Chevy Cruise …so that GM could Save 50 Cents per Ignition switch???? How easy we forget..

“How easy we forget..”
How can we forget stuff that you are just making up? The Chevy Cruze (note correct spelling) was never part of the ignition switch recall.

Businessess are bussineses that exist to make money…
While goverments alegedly exist to protect their citizens but are often as corupt or incompent ascompanies…
Every legacy auto company is guilty in one way or another…
Hyundai, Kia, Ford, Mitisubushi all guilty of cheating fuel economy rules here and or abroad…
Ford firestone tire fiasco…
Toyota unintended acceleration…
GM ignition switchs…
VW diesel emissions…
These are just the recent public ones that I remember off hand…
But the reality is the companies change souls per say when they change CEOs…
Take GM where one CEO builds the EV1 and the next CEO crushes it…
We forget? Or we just chose who to do business with today?

And ar the end of the day GM does produce the cars people want…
The vast majority of people who beleive in global warming have no problem run out and buy big fat bloated SUVs and trucks with ICE simply to go to the grocery store so how can I blame a company for selling to them within goverment fameworks…
And Obamas great fuel economy rules are lame enough and full,of enough holes that fuel economy for new vehicles has been stagnet now for three years on a row…

Take your meds. Your tirades reveal you are manic,

I think the voices in his head are telling him not to take his meds!

You could always build your own car. I’m sure it would be very safe.

So true that GM is trying to make EV. Bolt is a decent product, though expensive. I don’t see any comparable product from other gas car makers, not even Nissan.

Anyone looked at upcoming Kia Stinger? 0-60 in about 5 seconds, available in AWD, and starting price of $30K. It doesn’t look bad, either. I think that will be the real competition to Tesla 3. No other car today comes close to Tesla 3 like Stinger. With that performance, looks, price, Bolt seems too plain to be $30K.

Kia Stinger is a gasser not an EV?

Yes I know. I don’t distinguish EV vs gasser when comparing. SparkEV is best car for the money, EV or not. Same is true with Tesla 3. Most people shopping for cars will put EV as secondary or even lesser consideration.

One thing going for Tesla, even if it ends up being bit slower than Stinger, is Tesla badge. That is worth quite a bit, probably more than BMW, Mercedes, or even more than Ferrari and Maybach for some. Same can’t be said about Chevy and Kia.

That’s why I wish GM would spin off EV division, maybe call it “LaSalle”. The founder of LaSalle was Alfred P. Sloan (maybe you’ve seen his foundation funding PBS programs), and electrical engineer, just like Mary. It’s kind of fitting for EV division being premium over Chevy, but not quite luxury of Cadillac.

“Gee our old LaSalle ran great, those were the days…” And those days are back with new EV division LaSalle!

Hmmm. After driving an EV, I can’t even consider buying a gasser. If you want cheap horsepower, and don’t care if it uses gas, why not a Camaro/Corvette?

Personally, I wouldn’t get it, but if average consumer has $30K to $40K to spend on a car and there’s no Tesla 3, Stinger is serious competition even for Bolt. HP is one thing, but AWD option is sweet.

But do people cross-shop BEVs and gassers? I don’t think many (if any) do.

that’s too bad. BEV’s need to move beyond the range of “compact footprints” While I LOVE and drive a Volt currently and will likely go BEV with next purchase I need more space!! Cramped compact appliances aren’t going to cut it if manufacturers expect EV’s to gain market share.

as far as future product launches go, the important words in that interview were: “…what the customer wants”. that is true of *every* auto makers that makes an announcement related to electric vehicles (with the exception of tesla). when the announcement of “future products” is made, it is always subject to “market conditions”. those market conditions include the price of gasoline and the state of regulations when it comes to fleet fuel economy and emission standards for automobiles. this is why discussion of the trump administration is relevant in this forum. don’t expect a trump administration to put the kind of pressure on automakers to introduce zero-emission vehicles as existed in the obama administration. consequently, don’t expect auto makers to go out of their way to introduce zero-emission vehicles. they will continue to invest in research and development toward zero-emission vehicles, but that is for the purpose of being prepared for the contingencies. but, if regulators do not force new introductions of zero emission vehicles, you’re not going to see a lot unless customers (other than EV enthusiasts) demand them. that hasn’t happened so far. but barra did honestly note that the Bolt is a technology test bed vehicle. to… Read more »

I would imagine with the price of gas here in Europe, EV’s will take off much quicker than in the US, the Ioniq for instance does the equivalent of circa 200 mpg,

200 miles + EV’s make them much more attractive given the shorter travelling distances also.

What happened to her face? Looks like some kind of injection under her cheeks. Sad.

her face looks less fat, so i was thinking that she might have lost weight. as catherine deneuve, once reportedly said: “after a certain age, you have to choose between your fanny and your face.”

Sad that you found this to be a neccessary comment.

Any useful impressions about her performance as a CEO?
Yeah… didn’t think so.

to be realistic about it, i also noticed the difference in barra’s appearance. you generally tend to notice it when people look different because the first thought that goes through you mind is to wonder: why?

Mine was an emotional response, as before I found her attractive, and find it sad that she might be resorting to injections. If you think that sexist, or whatever, I don’t care.

As a CEO, I have posted a number of comments in the past praising her, and her support of EV’s. Very happy she is leading GM, and I like her public speaking style.

Well, it definitely wasn’t an intellectual response, so you got that right.

I’ve found that when I post something I regret, that simply posting “my bad, I got that wrong. Please ignore my post” works pretty well.

It might have read very differently without ‘Sad.’ at the end. Thank you for clarifying. I agree with you, GM is lucky to have a strong, forward thinking CEO like Mary Barra at the helm. 🙂

The internet has ruined the word ‘sad’ to the point where it no longer means ‘sad’ unless given proper context. While he didn’t begin the downward trend of the word ‘sad’, Donald Trump put the final nail in that coffin.

I see your point. Sad is a word that can easily be misunderstood.

“feeling or showing sorrow; unhappy.” or “pathetically inadequate or unfashionable.”.

Mine was the former, and not the latter.

What happened to this comment? Looks like you and jimijonjack both have nothing to add to this conversation. That is bad company to keep. Sad.

Long but informative recapitulation of recent events in regards to plug-in vehicles. Of note inside evs is plugged for it’s reporting of plug-in vehicle sales. circa minute 25.

Other highlights include a general what where they thinking in regards to FF, and stuff about the Bolt/Volt.
What Drives Us #100 (centigrade) it’s hot!

What happened to using the Voltec platform? Did you get discouraged by the ELR failure? That was just the wrong market . . . Fox News watching Grandpa doesn’t want a plug-in Caddy.

the primary market for the cadillac ct6 PHEV is china.

Old school thinking. The Voltec should’ve been put in med/small SUV and some trucks.

Remember vote with your wallet.

GM and others are members of The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers” that are lobbying hard with their attorneys to push back against EPA and CARB.

Buying a Volt or a Bolt directly funds/supports those efforts.

Also, buying a Volt or a Bolt allows them to continue to build and sell their OPEC swallowing SUV/Trucks and all their ICE or Diesel products.

And buying a TESLA allows any other manufacturer to sell more gas guzzlers, since they can buy ZEV credits from Tesla for “pennies on the dollar”….much cheaper than developing an in-house ZEV platform.

And that would be an “Expense” for that company buying the credits which will benefit Tesla to move forward on EV products.

So what’s your point?

Buying the Volt or Bolt would be directly supporting lawyers and the sloppy OPEC products of GM and finance the company’s efforts to thwart EPA and CARB efforts.

Vote with your wallet folks!

So, basically you are saying that we should buy Tesla or nothing.

Thank you for your marketing effort.

I know Tesla fan boy clubs are full of fanatics…

Yep. I suspect that they have avoided an SUV PHEV because the ICE SUVs are easy fat profits.

“Buying a Volt or a Bolt directly funds/supports those efforts.

I disagree.

It also shows that there are legit demand which means that there are more incentives for them to address that market.

You have to have demand to sustain the supply.

Hybrids never broke the 5% ceiling. Let us break the 1% EV ceiling.

Trollnonymous said: “GM and others are members of The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers that are lobbying hard with their attorneys to push back against EPA and CARB… “Buying a Volt or a Bolt directly funds/supports those efforts.” If you want to boycott GM and other auto makers which are actively engaged in pushing back against CARB standards and other emission standards, then I certainly respect your decision and your right to do so. But I think we also need to respect the opinions and rights of those who see it differently. Refusing to buy EVs from legacy auto makers merely reinforces their view that customers don’t want them. If we want them to make EVs, then someone has to demonstrate there is demand for them by buying them. It’s not like GM and other companies are run by Snidely Whiplash, a cartoon villain who does evil simply because he likes to. GM is a business, and like all businesses (with rare and unusual exceptions) it’s run to make money. We need to recognize the reality that at present, auto makers make more money selling gasmobiles than they do EVs. The EV revolution will succeed in making gasmobiles obsolete only when… Read more »

As a new Bolt owner and a Mary Barra fan I view her statements are purely practical based on what the market trends are. I am very interested, in particular, to see a Chevy Bolt / Volt mainstream ad campaign. I want Chevy to start promoting their amazing EV achievements to get more people to try them out. They are fantastic achievements.

Congratulations on your new Bolt! I haven’t seen any TV ads yet… but as a person under the age of 30, I don’t actually *watch* TV.

The Chevy videos on the Bolt have popped up on youtube for me and I have seen ads all over the internet for the Bolt. Currently the Bolt is on the front page of

So they have some out there, but definitely they can do more. But I wouldn’t expect wide advertising until they have upped the cars availability significantly.

The bias against women seems to be in full force here. No one makes comments when chubby cheeked Musk looks like a chipmunk. But boy, let a woman start looking … whatever … and the comments start flying.

FWIW my first reaction when the video started was that the lighting was terrible. Broad face works for men but it’s usually terrible for women, and this wasn’t the exceptional case. If you watch the end of the video she starts looking much better because the light angle and the angle of her face has changed.

I love the idea of the subscription service. I’d just like it to be available for Bolt EV owners. For X dollars a month you could drive electrically and, if necessary, you could call up another vehicle for a long trip. That would eliminate the need for a second car, and would enable two car families to go with two BEVs.

“chubby cheeked Musk looks like a chipmunk”


This confirms that the expenses to develop their platform will be properly accounted for by amortizing the costs into their future models that share the technology.

Any attempts to say the Bolt doesn’t make money based upon totaling R$D and dividing it by the number of Bolts sold will be false.

I just wonder how long LG is going to accept his technology being packed in a GM box instead of having it in one of his own. GM is just a retailer for LG that can be replaced by another one or a direct sale of their own. If Tesla can sell its cars without dealers so can LG. GM is a fake ev car company.

They even had LG help design the Bolt.

This is an LG Bolt.

Your are correct in that GM leveraged LG’s battery production savvy, but to be clear LG used GM’s own Li Ion recipe (it’s GM’s IP). In addition, GM designed the electric traction motor and the battery-control system, was responsible for all integration of the powertrain into the vehicle itself, and validated all systems.

“They even had LG help design the Bolt.

This is an LG Bolt.”

Stupidity is talking again.

Remember CODA? How did that work out?

Building a good EV is more than just having a battery and electric motor.

GM haters are so dumb sometimes…

Let’s resort to name calling…
Wah wah, you didn’t like what I said…….wah!

You mean my Volt is fake? No, I just went out and checked, I’m pretty sure it’s 100% legit.

I don’t think there’s a car in existence that was built 100% in house. Not even Tesla.

A typical car has it’s:
1. Airbags supplied by somebody else
2. Tires supplied by somebody else
3. Electronics supplied by somebody else
4. Leather supplied by somedoby else

I could go on and on.

European point of view

Mary Barra made some abuses of botox .

When people (men I’m ashame to admit since I identify as one) will learn to refrain from commenting on women appearances when they don’t appear on screen as a beauty contest ? Guys NEVER have to endure this kind of infantile comments … education? Growing up ? Embarrasing anyway !!

European point of view

Mary Barra , who I respect , got the job because she was a rather attractive woman . She has to support some minor consequences .

“Mary Barra , who I respect , got the job because she was a rather attractive woman .”

So you’re saying Ms. Barra got her job because of her looks, not her ability or talent?

Gee, you and “The Donald” would get along quite well, and you *cough* respect *cough* women the same way he does.

Hint: That’s not a compliment.

“…the Bolt is our platform that we’re going to continue on and have a huge range of vehicles.”

Seriously, you expect us to believe that a car for which you’ve farmed out the entire powertrain to LG Chem and LG Electronics — and that means LG’s brand new, very inexperienced automotive division will be building drivetrains for the Bolt — is the “platform” upon which you plan to build a “huge range of vehicles”?

Wow! That’s a pretty strong contender for this year’s Golden Scoop Shovel award, for the biggest pile of B.S. shoveled out. 🙄

Platform is usually the body and chassis, not powertrain which can be adapted across many different platform.

Bolt platform can be expanded and use different motors and battery.

You have a good point, thanks. I was thinking of “platform” in a broader sense, but you’re right to point out that auto makers use the term “platform” to mean something more specific.

What I find interesting is that in general, people here want the VOLTEC (VOLT) cars to be the major platform, and instead, GM makes the NON-Plug-In Malibu hybrid their defacto voltec – with no plug.

Meanwhile Barra says the BOLT is going to be the platform leader. Which is not exactly what people wanted, but it will be interesting to see what they do with it?

I’d be interested to see if they use a double set (120 kwh) of batteries in a new Escalade type product.

what she really said was that GM will build according to what the market wants. that is a credible statement, anything other statement is less credible.

An interview with GM’s Mark Reuss as well. He basically said the same thing as Mary Barra – that the Bolt platform is essentially the future of the company.

He also re-iterated that there is no plan for a charging network. They’re focused on range and will let the market build the charging network. I don’t expect that to ever change.

what he said was that GM was not going to develop a proprietary charging system. i don’t understand why she would even ask such a question. who, aside from tesla, has even hinted at an interest in a proprietary charging system?

what i didn’t get was the part about introducing a diesel vehicle.

Yeah it was a very odd question indeed lol. I think that what she was trying to ask about was a GM-only charging network like Tesla has. But she used the wrong term when discussing it on the spot.

If she *had* asked that, then his answer would seem appropriate that GM isn’t interested in building out a charging network at the moment. That seemed to be what he was saying to me at least.

it was a ridiculous question and reuss gave an unnecessarily ridiculous answer. his answer was that GM wasn’t developing a proprietary charging system because the Bolt has enough range so as to not need it.

Maybe I’m giving them too much credit and filling in the blanks with my own knowledge… but that’s just how i heard it lol.

If she really had intended to ask about a proprietary charging station… and he really had intended to say that they don’t need a proprietary charging station because the range is good… then that entire part of the exchange makes zero sense.