Full US Range And Price Charting For EVs – Tesla Aside, 2016 Nissan LEAF Is Longest Range EV

SEP 11 2015 BY MARK KANE 55

Plug-in Cars Range & Price (US) Comparison (September 2015)

Plug-in Cars Range & Price (US) Comparison (September 2015 – EPA used when available)

2016 Nissan LEAF In New "Deep Blue" Color

2016 Nissan LEAF In New “Deep Blue” Color

Announcement of the 2016 Nissan LEAF with 30 kWh with 107 miles (172 km) of EPA range immediately shot the LEAF into first place in terms of range among non-Tesla electric cars (first 3 positions) – based on official EPA ratings.

Even the Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric Drive, with the now standard “range package” –  an additional 17 miles (on demand, after full charge) over the standard 87 miles EPA range, is below LEAF at 104 miles.

And still the LEAF manages to be under $30,000 after the $7,500 tax credit.

So it would seem, looking at the overall US data, that the 30 kWh LEAF (in SV/SL trim only) is a decent addition to the EV in its last model year before 2nd generation upgrade in the first half of 2017.

Prices after tax credits:

Plug-In Vehicle Price Comparison – USA (September 2015)

Plug-In Vehicle Price Comparison – USA (September 2015)

Prices after tax credit: Prices of BEV in relation to battery size in kWh:

BEVs Price per mile of range – US (September 2015)

BEVs Price per mile of range – US (September 2015)

Random FYI: Prices before tax credits:

Plug-In Vehicle Price Comparison – USA (September 2015)

Plug-In Vehicle Price Comparison – USA (September 2015)

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55 Comments on "Full US Range And Price Charting For EVs – Tesla Aside, 2016 Nissan LEAF Is Longest Range EV"

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Speculawyer

Those expensive European models with the really short electric range crack me up. They illustrate a set of bad regulations. They are essentially European compliance cars.

ggpa

+1

VW, Mercedes and BMW should put their faces into the mud of shame.

My Mercedes-Benz B class gets as high as 125 miles per charge with the extended range button, which I have done several times, with some freeway speeds of 60 mph, some mountain driving in Idaho and no hypermiling This system is a Tesla system.

I paid $3k down, $324/month net $200/after fuel savings, 3 year,12k mile lease.

I loved my Leaf, but I love my Benz even more, Just waiting for the $35k Tesla!

Speculawyer

The top-down tactic of Tesla versus bottom-up strategy of everyone else is interesting to watch. For now, it seems Tesla’s strategy has been much more successful.

But it could fall apart for Tesla if battery prices drop for everyone and the traditional car-makers create affordable long-range EVs. But Tesla has some advantages that may prevent that:
1) They are working the hardest to drive down battery prices with the gigafactory.
2) They are the only ones with a really nice DC-fast-charging system.

Speculawyer

Oh . . . and:
3) Brand. Tesla has made electric cars cool. High performance, a rockstar CEO, a cool call-back name to a great electricity pioneer, etc. Tesla is an aspirational brand. I think there are tens of thousands of people ready to plunk down a deposit for a Model 3.

The Volt is a GREAT car and I hope the Bolt will be too . . . but the Tesla brand is more desirable than a Chevy.

Brian

I’m not sure I agree that Tesla’s strategy has been “much more successful”. Worldwide, the Leaf is by far the best-selling BEV. Tesla has its place, but I’m willing to bet that more electric miles have been put on Nissan Leafs than on Teslas.

Bottom line, they are set to collide in the middle by the end of this decade. Leaf 2.0 and Model III will be in slightly different classes at launch, but I expect Tesla to offer “stripper” versions of the Model III while Nissan adds something more upscale like an Infiniti.

Robb Stark

Tesla has been much more successful than Nissan at the Electric Car Game.

Globally,Model S has generated far more revenue than LEAF and the few other Nissan BEVs.

Tesla has deployed far more kWh of batteries in BEVs. Tesla has increased the mind share for BEVs far more than Nissan.

Tesla stated as a pure BEV startup.

Not a behemoth ICE Car company making a tiny percentage of its cars BEVs.

And next year,globally, Tesla will sell more BEVs than Nissan. Likely this year, Tesla will sell more BEVs in the US than Nissan.

And I am not so sure more miles have been put on LEAFs than Model S.

Brian

I’m not sure that revenue or kWh are the best measure of success but sure, Tesla is way ahead of Nissan on both accounts. Mindshare is valid, certainly. At the same time, Tesla has given BEVs the reputation of “toys for the elite” whereas Nissan has presented them as reliable, affordable transportation.

And it matters not whether the car came from a “pure BEV startup” or a “behemoth ICE Car company”. In fact, the latter has a lot more weight to the general public. Nissan is a well established company whereas Tesla is a risky unknown.

Time will tell who sells more BEVs in 2016, but that’s future looking. My statement was past tense.

As for electric miles, I doubt anybody knows for certain. My impression is that the Nissan fleet is much larger than the Tesla fleet, enough so to make up for the limited range. But you could be right.

Maybe Jay could give us an update on LEAF miles, but Tesla just passed 1B miles. IIRC they are closing the gap on LEAFs fleet miles at this point.

Robert

You don’t hear any Tesla owners talking about wanting a Leaf. I think you hear all honest Leaf owners drooling over a Tesla.
Tesla has a waiting list for all its cars, limited by production (100% demand.) Leaf has cars sitting at the dealership. Not many, but some surplus (<100% demand.) To say that the global company is more successful because they have more sales isn't looking at the full picture.
I think that Tesla has done the most for electrification of vehicles. People hear about these badass vehicles, research it, and buy an affordable Leaf, not because it's better in any way, because it's affordable.
I own a gas guzzling prius until it makes financial sense for me to go electric. If that were now I'd get the Volt or Leaf. Both great cars, the best advertisement for both of these cars is how great (but out of reach) Tesla is.

ggpa

IMHO the smartest part of Tesla’s strategy are the superchargers. It is a huge part of what makes Tesla such a compelling and viable car.

And if you consider how often the development costs of a car exceed a billion dollars, the the money that was spent to build out the superchargers seems like a great value.

Greg

+1

GeorgeS

bring on those lease deals Nissan.

Nate

Yeah, I hope both Chevy and Nissan bring on good lease deals next year when my current one ends. If not, at least there will be some good choices for a used one.

I do wonder if the deals will get worse. We’ve seen the articles where the leasing companies have been offering incentive to people to buy out the lease instead of turn it in. I have to wonder if the residuals will have to go down based on the market was done. Lower residuals mean higher lease cost.

Stephen Hodges

The biggest incentive to buy out a lease for a Leaf owner would be the availability of a battery upgrade. Just saying.

Breezy

It depends on how you define successful. From a business POV, Tesla has been most successful by far to date.

As far as unit sales, actually putting cars on the road, they’re doing well but still a small part of the overall EV market.

Speculawyer

Very true. However, although Tesla’s car sales have been pretty small . . . their battery sales are the largest by far. And that has given them the leverage to invest big time into building the Gigafactory that is being designed to push down battery costs. All the other car companies are dependent on outside suppliers to push down battery prices.

Now whether the Tesla plan works . . . I don’t know. I sure hope it does.

Mr. Electric

I’m not sure business success is defined by Tesla, which has retained earnings of almost two billion dollars.

Pushmi-Pullyu

There’s no question that Tesla is the most successful, business-wise, in making plug-in EVs. Tesla is running about a 23% gross profit margin (down from about 25% before the 70 kWh Model S), whereas the other PEV makers are struggling to break even on their PEV models. And that’s not even counting the very high price of Tesla stock, which is also making the company money, as witnessed by the recent stock offering.

ModernMarvelFan

“Tesla is running about a 23% gross profit margin (down from about 25% before the 70 kWh Model S), whereas the other PEV makers are struggling to break even on their PEV models”

I am NOT sure about other PEV makers’s claim of “struggles”. They might NOT make net profit on the PEVs, but I certainly don’t think they make zero gross profit on them.

Gross profit excludes initial tooling, R&D investment. If you do that, I am pretty sure that both Volt, LEAF and other PEV make some gross profit (else they wouldn’t drop the price over time). They might NOT be as big as 23% but they are also at much lower price range.

ELR at $55K which is based on a $35K Volt should easily generate at least 25% gross profit if NOT more… Of course, it doesn’t sell enough to make a difference.

Pushmi-Pullyu
ModernMarvelFan said: “I am pretty sure that both Volt, LEAF and other PEV make some gross profit (else they wouldn’t drop the price over time).” Why wouldn’t the price drop as the tooling up costs are amortized away? That’s normal procedure for an auto maker, isn’t it? Look, finances aren’t my area of expertise, but Nissan said at the start of Leaf production that they intended to get out of the red (start making an overall profit) only in the third year of making the model. And since then, due to poor sales in the USA and Europe, they built auto assembly plants and battery factories in Tennessee and the UK. Now, these assembly plants were not just for the Leaf; they do make other models there. But overall, Nissan has surely spent far more on capital investment in tooling up and factory construction for the Leaf than they have made in gross profits to date. I don’t have that much financial info on the Volt, but I certainly do remember a lot of arguing back and forth in the early production years over whether or not GM was making a per-unit profit on them… or if it actually cost… Read more »
Lou

Interesting that here in Philly the Tesla is probably the most widely sold EV. Not a day goes by that I don’t see at least one Tesla(this past Saturday I counted 5 pass me by). Yes, we do have LEAFs and Volts(and even I3’s)but the single most popular BEV is the Model S. Probably speaks more to range issues in cold weather than anything else, but still interesting.

Lou

RexxSee

The Tesla lose less percentage of range in cold weather because it has a much bigger battery, and most of the loss comes from heating the cabin, which requires about the same amount of energy for all cars, and it’s better isolation and thermal management.

larry4pyro

It’s amazing to see how quickly vehicle electrification is progressing.

Speculawyer

Well . . . it was a disappointingly LONG wait for Nissan to finally increase the LEAF battery size. And Tesla still hasn’t produced any car that is affordable to the masses.

It would be nice if things progressed faster but I’m happy for the progress that we have. I’ve always said that this will be a long slog of incremental progress. This is not like digital semiconductors that were able to advance much faster by shrinking down the size of a bit. A bit is just an abstract logical entity that can be as small as you can reliably make it. But moving people & cargo around . . . that’s real-world physics.

ggpa

From 2015 all Mercedes B-class EV have the extra 15 mile range option included, making its range just over 100mi.

2016 Leaf is still first, but I think you should correctly show the Mercedes range

Hey ggpa,

Where do you see it noted by the EPA that the additional range is 15 miles, making total range “just over 100 mi”?

87 miles + 17 miles (MB estimate) when we broke the ‘range package story’ was the only thing we have seen since. If you have any kind of source link, we would very much like to make it “officialy” official, as one assumes, that would then make it 102 miles of total range (87 miles + 15)

This is the only data we have seen MBUSA (or anyone) put in print on the subject:

To be fair, and like other recent MB range projects, MBUSA used to say the B-Class Ed got “up to 115 miles” of range back in the day, when also spoke of this extra 17 miles. In reality, one assumes that the “range package” adds more like 10-12 miles in actual driving distance.

ggpa

Jay

Fair point – I have never seen an EPA rating for the extra range, and I do not think they would ever have it.

Even if you estimate it as 12 miles, it is IMHO more accurate to use 99 than 87 which is the value that Mercedes submitted to the EPA.

This is similar to the situation of the 2011-2013 Nissan Leafs, where the EPA range was only 73 miles (if I recall right) due to the strange EPA rules, but most folks knew about the extra range.

Yes, its a slippery slope all around.

Total lose-lose scenario here, as most people are familiar with the EPA, and if you don’t use that number you are always having to explain it…which isn’t possible in charts, etc., etc.

And if you don’t always use just EPA (and then OEM provided data in lieu of it) then your numbers never line up right with wider/published media, people complain, etc.

We have gone down this road, hair-pulled on it back and forth quite a bit, in the end the path of least resistance is straight EPA, then OEM in its absence, but with the occasional disclaimer thrown into any stories when the extra data point relates to the topic at hand.

Hi Jay,

My Mercedes-Benz B class gets as high as 125 miles per charge with the extended range button, which I have done several times, with some freeway speeds of 60 mph, some mountain driving in Idaho and no hypermiling This system is a Tesla system.

I paid $3k down, $324/month net $200/after fuel savings, 3 year,12k mile lease.

I loved my Leaf, but I love my Benz even more, Just waiting for the $35k Tesla!

The B class is nice, but that big battery with no DCQC is a major flaw. I regularly go on 150 mile trips with an easy DCQC when running in the store/malls for a quick 20-30 minute bite to eat. The B class would leave me stranded at a charger for hours. I see i3 deals for $269/month… $3500 drive off. And they come standard with DCFC now.

Great point on the advantages of the i3, but when I shopped for the i3 in Boise Idaho (not exactly known for electric cars) BMW was quoting $700+/month for lease rates, same annual mileage and 3 year term,(Highway Robbery ) I just went for the B Class, out of Beverton, OR.

Where are the $269 i3’s?

jelloslug

The EPA range for the 90kw Tesla is the same as the 85 when it should really be about 5% more.

Nate

Likewise, the 2015 Volt increased battery capacity made it good for 40, but they didn’t take the effort to re-certify it with the EPA just like Tesla didn’t for the 90.

Doug (dhanson865)

There really ought to be more than 3 bars for Tesla.

230 miles Model S70
240 miles Model S70D
253 miles Model P85D
265 miles Model S85
270 miles Model S85D

??? miles Model P90D (about 6% more than P85D but not stated yet)
??? miles Model S90 (about 6% more than S85 but not stated yet)
??? miles Model S90D (about 6% more than S85D but not stated yet)

I’d leave it at 5 models on the graph and take the three 85 kwh models off when you get good numbers for the three 90 kwh models but until you get those numbers I’d avoid putting the 90 kwh models on.

I’m not sure where the S90D number came from but even if it is accurate it is ignoring two other configurations.

It’s significant that the second motor on the S70D adds 10 miles range at highway speeds. Even more if you don’t drive over the speed limit.

On topic of PEV data and infographics, an interesting chart would be “PEV Range vs. Number Produced” as a scatter plot.

“Tesla Aside, 2016 Nissan LEAF Is Longest Range EV”
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And the i3 REx aside, the Volt has the longest PHEV electric range by leaps and bounds.

Brian

Yes, that’s last week’s news. And it was beaten to death last week. This week let us focus on beating the Leaf 30kWh battery news to death.

That totally cracked me up, best laugh of the month.

Londo Bell

Price difference* b/n i3 REX & 16 Volt: ~$13200 after tax credit (so enough to pay for another Nissan Versa or Mitsubishi Mirage).

Price difference* b/n Tesla 70 & 16 LEAF: ~$36150 after tax credit (so 2 LEAFs plus some lose change for the price of 1 Tesla).

The comparison b/n the 2 PHEVs suddenly become much less insignificant.

*Based on chart in this post, with no special deals on leasing considered.

Pete

I want to upgrade from my Leaf 2012 to Leaf 2016. Hope the new ones from Sunderland are also so reliable, i see my dealer only once a year.

Daniel

Wow, The MSRP Per mile of range is telling! In that metric the Model S is an outstanding value if you consider the class if car you get and the S/C network that goes with it.

That to me is the biggest win for Tesla They are beating all competitors in a cost per mile / range comparison making it the best overall value (price of entry not withstanding) But what value could you place on top of that having access to superchargers for life?

TomArt

I noticed that, as well – very interesting way to look at the data!

You can also see this, to some extent, in the first chart, when you compare the location of the green dot (price) with the midpoint of the bar (range).

ModernMarvelFan

Well, yes and no.

Tesla is more expensive once if you include the incentives. The incentives impacts other BEVs far more than Tesla.

Once you include the tax incentives, Tesla suddenly becomes the 4th most expensive car in terms of $/mile.

EVfan

model s 90D epa mile should be 286

ydnas7

In non CARB market, LEAF is going to become very dominate over the others BEVs. (exclude Tesla) In California, more cash on hood on all the LEAF competitors.

When Outlander comes over, will there be a new chart just for dual motor xEVs? after all, it feels like most of Tesla sales are dual motor.

Ted Wilson

By Dec-2015 we will be having 3 models with 100 mile range.
Model-S, Model-X and Leaf. Good to read, soon more and more models will cross past 100 mile and when Bolt and Model-3 hits the street, we will be having more models with 200 mile range.

These charts are very informative. Thanks

Ted Wilson

Just like smart phones can be charged using a secondary Battery thru USB, there should be battery modules to charge EV for long distance drive.

For ex : Someone who has Leaf with 84 mile range and they want to travel 120 miles, they should be able to rent a battery with 40 mile range, keep it in the car’s trunk and start charging the vehicle when its charge gets depleted.

After finishing the trip, they can return the battery back to the rental company.

This will help many people buy EVs without worrying about the long distance drive.

After all Leaf-2016’s extra 6 KWh battery is going to cost only $2,100 and weighs only 21 KG more.

Hope Tesla can consider this since their battery swapping station plans did not work out. People will hesitate to swap their batteries for the fear that replaced batteries may be inferior.

But adding the extra battery temporarily for long range should not be of concern.

Pushmi-Pullyu

I think for the average driver, if they’re gonna have to rent something for a long trip, they might as well rent a gasmobile, and eliminate any worry or restriction due to having to stop to charge en route. There is already a large national (and international) network of auto rental agencies, so that support infrastructure is already in place. It would be difficult for an auxiliary battery rental startup to compete with that.

Not to mention, a long trip is when you need the car’s trunk space the most.

Cavaron

Can’t await the EVs which close the range-gap between the 107 and 230 miles. Go Bolt go!

Proton

My 2015 Volt apparently didn’t get the news that it charges to 38mi: mine always charges to 47mi. The battery is listed as 17.1kWh. The charts above list it at 38 as does the brochure, but the typesetters didn’t get the word!

pjwood1

I’d so much rather the “used” Tesla, than range anxiety.

ev1

Mercedes B-Class ED should be shown with 104 miles range in the chart since the extra range package is now standard in 2015 models. In any case, such comparison is not that useful since the cars are in so many different classes that are not really comparable. I wonder if there was range comparison for ICE cars in the early days.

BraveLilToaster

Nice. Nissan has finally come out with a paint colour that matches what was in Gran Turismo 5 during their GT Academy racing competition in what, 2012?