France Launches €10,000 Bonus To Switch From Diesel To Electric

FEB 18 2015 BY MARK KANE 26

France is moving forward with a plan to up incentives to buy electric cars from €6,300 for BEVs and €4,000 for PHEVs to €10,000 and €6,500 respectively.

To get the additional €3,700 or €2,500 you need to currently own a 13-year old (or older) diesel car, which will be scraped upon trading it in for electric.

€10,000 is today some $11,300, which for sure will launch EV sales to the next level. At least from April 1, when the new program will be implemented.

Those who scrap old diesel for new diesel (Euro 6 class of vehicle emitting less than 110 g / CO2) will get just €500.

France Launched €10,000 Bonus To Switch From Diesel To Electric

France Launched €10,000 Bonus To Switch From Diesel To Electric

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Is there a provision stoping people from buying an old diesel just to get the tax creadit. Not many cars are worth 10k after 13years

Are not worth*

actually i had the same idea. I can buy an old diesel now for 1k-2k € and get 10k € advantage.

Is this somehow prevented?

if you happen to have an old diesel that is somewhat of a classic the resale value with skyrocket after the rebate program is over.

You only get 3700 € for the trade in.

You will get the 6300 € for buying an EV anyways, even without trading in anything.

Why would this be prevented? Their goal is to scrap old diesel cars and put more electric cars on the road.

You likely need to have registered the old car for a certain time on your name.

Yes, in Portugal is 6 months.

You must own the old car for 6 months at least…

No problem… Just pick up an old Astra Diesel in the UK for £50, and 6 months later buy a Zoe. It’s a great deal!

La Transition Ecologique sounds so much more sophisticated than Cash For Clunkers, LOL.

…it’s also much bolder and more generous…

And cash for clunkers was more about getting unsafe cars off the road than some environmental thing.
Cars that people would have made into scrap parts a long time ago in a first world country.

It was very much about efficiency. There were requirements on the MPG of the car being traded in and the new one being purchased.

Maybe not so much for the ecology as national security.

With so much nuclear baseload, there probably isn’t another developed nation with so high a use for battery arbitrage.

Hey, did I just used French word?

I hear French all the time. When people are angry and start swearing up a storm, they follow it up with “Excuse my French”.

I hope they don’t scrap them
Better to send the cars somewhere that could use them.

Obviously, it doesn’t help global CO2 levels if you move a Diesel from Paris to rural Mali.

However: local air pollution many rural developing (“third world”) areas can handle some CO2, and it’s a shame to waste/scrap functional automobiles when there are many places that could use them

Dude, or JRMW, really a 13 year car is junk when driven by 90% of the population. That’s why it’s recognized as a “depreciating asset”.

Typically, only low mileage cars become the classics for that reason.

But, I find this interesting and great in that this incentive will go to the typical 2ed or 3rd owner of the car. And that’s a nice change.

JRMW said:

“I hope they don’t scrap them
Better to send the cars somewhere that could use them.

However: local air pollution many rural developing (“third world”) areas can handle some CO2, and it’s a shame to waste/scrap functional automobiles when there are many places that could use them”

When I took “Environmental Science” in college, I learned that 10% of the vehicles emit 90% of the pollution. (I mean the -real- air pollution which is a health hazard, not CO2.) I doubt that has changed much since.

Extending the life of old, worn out gas guzzlers, many or most of which will be highly polluting because they’re badly out of tune or burn oil in the crankcase due to worn rings or damaged gaskets, would be a horrible affliction on public health. And that’s true whether it’s a first-world or third-world country.

Couple of points.
1. I said RURAL developing areas.
when I was in Moyale and Kakamega Kenya there was maybe 1 car per hundreds of residents. Couldnt have been more than 4-5 cars within 50 miles.
Those villages could have used a car even if it was a beater.

1 added pollute mobile in an area with no cars, rare electricity, no running water is unlikely to worsen public health. Instead it could extend health. (Use it as car share for several villages for things like harvest time, get needed goods from here to there, “ambulance” and so on)
Im sure a 13 year old diesel will be trashed up, but still 100x better than what they have now.
These people cut paper milk containers into dust bins and scoops. Im sure they could use the cars. If nothing else for parts

2. Cuba still has car stock made up almost entirely by cars from pre embargo days 1950’s so some of these clunkers must have some value.

Anyway I know it won’t happen. It’s just sad that we waste so much

Why do you want to continue polluting our tiny planet? We only have one habitable planet.

How about ripping out the engine and putting a battery & traction motor in them? Then give the rural area people some solar cells, or other means of renewable electricity to charge it?

well said, JMRW, much of the world is patently clueless about what has worth compared to *.

However, you need to ship, fuel and maintain them, so there Are other difficulties – a program to allow owners to ship them to a charity-of-your-choice might work/help, particularly if there were tax incentives to do so.

Scraping them is better for the economy since building news ones creates jobs (in theory), and GDP.