Fisker Karma Production To Finally Resume In 2016?

JUL 9 2015 BY STATIK 26

In May Fisker Launched Service Programs For Current Karma Owners

In May Fisker Launched Service Programs For Current Karma Owners

Stop us if you have heard this before – Fisker Karma production will apparently be resumed in the near future.

This Was The Scene 4 Years Ago When The First (Of An Eventual 2,500-odd) Karma Rolled Of Valmet Automotive's Assembly Line in Finland

This Was The Scene 4 Years Ago When The First Karma (Of An Eventual 2,500-odd) Rolled Of Valmet Automotive’s Assembly Line in Finland

Yes, the Karma that was already promised by new owner Wanxiang to be re-introduced months ago, but who instead saw its assembly line in Finland shuttered and disassembled, once again has another target date for production.

But never mind all that old water under the bridge, as Jim Taylor – Chief Marketing Officer for the company has told the Orange County Register that the re-birth is really underway this time.

Mr. Taylor says the ‘new Fisker’ is building a team to launch the Karma now in 2016, while adding the resurrection “is going to be a great brand comeback.  Comeback sometimes has a dangerous twist to it, with feeling like things have to go way down and come back.”

The optimism of man paid to be optimistic is truly something special:

“Fisker came back from a bankruptcy, but the vehicle and the brand itself was tremendous on first launch, so this is more of a rebirth or a second life.”

The company says that the employee head count from home base in Costa Mesa has moved from a low point of only about 20 to over 200, and work on Fisker’s 550k+ sq-ft facility in Moreno Valley to build the new Karma is now getting underway.

Can Wanxiang Really Re-Launch The Fisker Karma In 12 Months Time?

Can Wanxiang Really Re-Launch New Fisker Karma Production In 12 Months Time?

Some parts from the previous assembly line are now en route to Southern California (from Finland), and production is expected to begin next year, with some new tweaks on the previous platform.

Fisker is also currently reaching out to old part suppliers to see if new deals can be struck moving forward, and has 150 unsold Karma mules to aid in development, research and testing of a new generation.

The company has not given any specifics of what changes will be made to the next Karma, but does confirm that it will continue to be a plug-in hybrid luxury vehicle.

Just like old times, no Fisker interview would be complete without some mention of its California-based rival, Tesla Motors.

“One of the mistakes that all car companies make is to talk too early about what might be,” Taylor said to the OC Register, noting Tesla’s oft-delayed Model X. “We want to be out next year. Midyear is our target. That’s what we’ve told the plants and our suppliers, but we won’t make any promises to say this is our launch date, get ready.”

Given the many quality/software issues that arrived with the original Karma as it was rushed to market to keep its DoE ATVML loan program active, we would much rather see Wanxiang take its time bringing the new Karma to market, and to do it right.

We encourage you to check out the fairly extensive report and interview at the Orange Country Register here.

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26 Comments on "Fisker Karma Production To Finally Resume In 2016?"

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ffbj
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ffbj

I still think it looks cool, but looks aren’t everything. I really don’t have much more to say about Fisker coming back since there is really not much to say about it.

Koenigsegg
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Koenigsegg

looks are the most important thing along with functionality

TAP
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The launched Fisker Karma was a wreck–quality issues, unfinished software. Now it has fallen years behind. Even if they get back to where they were, and fix the bugs, will anyone care? Seems like only masochists would buy them.

Nix
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Nix

Those are the exact issues that Wanxiang said they would have to resolve before they could resume production. It is right in their offer to buy Old Fisker in their competitive bid.

One of their selling points to the debt holders, was that they had the manufacturing background needed to build a high quality car, and that debt holders would be given stock in the New Fisker where they could potentially profit from better-built Fiskers.

The debt holders chose this option that included partial ownership in New Fisker, over the competitor’s offer which had a higher cash value, but no ownership.

So everybody up and down the whole supply chain has an incentive to put out a much higher quality car than Old Fisker did.

Spending more time up front to get it right is absolutely the right thing to do, instead of throwing out product just to meet some arbitrary timeline that only exists in the minds of people who want to bash them.

Big Solar
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Big Solar

what does wangxiang have to gain by not producing a Fisker Karma?

Lensman
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Lensman

Not throwing good money after bad?

Harry
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Harry

Fisker looks a let better than the Tesla Roadster

Koenigsegg
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Koenigsegg

Aston Martin Rapide looks a lot better than the Lotus Elise

lol

Ocean Railroader
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Ocean Railroader

Maybe it could come back as some type of 300 mile or 400 mile range electric car.

RS
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RS

Why not 500 or 600? Or 2000?

Doug B
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Doug B

Does anyone still seriously think that a hybrid powertrain is the future of motoring?

Nix
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Nix

For the near future? Yes, PHEV’s are definitely part of the transition away from relying 100% on oil for transportation.

Lensman
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Lensman

PHEVs are definitely part of the near-term future, especially for larger “cars” such as SUVs, minivans, and pickups. It’s going to be quite a few years before the cost and fast-charging ability of batteries improves to the point that we’ll see larger passenger vehicles (such as SUVs, minivans, and pickups) made as BEVs at prices competitive with gasmobiles.

Clark
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Clark

I do wish them the best; the more competitors the better (especially NEW companies NOT part of the established automakers club). But, they DEFINITELY have a tough row to hoe going forward. Their product is 4 years behind current technology and style, they have lost customer faith, and the field is even more crowded than it was when they launched. So, let the hard work begin …

Jelloslug
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Jelloslug

Yawn, who cares…

JakeY
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JakeY

The main change now is that the ELR is out now. While the ELR is still not competitive with the Model S, it IS competitive with the Karma and the previous version sold roughly the same number of cars.

I can see them reviving the Karma to use up the leftover parts, but in the long run I think the Atlantic will be the key to success, not the Karma. There’s just too much baggage (both engineering-wise and reputation-wise).

Lensman
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Lensman

So, you think the Karma has bad karma? 🙂

Nix
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Nix

The more companies that are dedicated to building just EV’s/PHEV’s the better off the EV/PHEV market will be in the long term.

jimiam
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jimiam

NOBODY CARES! It was Flawed From The START & always Will Be….They Should Quit & Cut Their Losses.

Murrysville EV
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Murrysville EV

The Consumer Reports’ Karma bricked when they tested it:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/video-hub/featured/featured-videos/100000-fisker-karma-breaks-down/17387256001/1496201987001/?EXTKEY=AGTS004

CR declared the Tesla Model S to be the best car they’ve ever tested.

Nix
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Nix

Yes, that battery problem was traced back to one particular manufacturing machine for one particular batch of A123 batteries.

That piece of equipment was fixed, and the batteries made by it were recalled and replaced. It is ancient history at this point.

What are you going to complain about next that has nothing to do with any car anybody is now building? Gas tanks in Ford Pinto’s? Unintended acceleration recall in the Audi 5000?

Lensman
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Lensman

“Fisker came back from a bankruptcy, but the vehicle and the brand itself was tremendous on first launch, so this is more of a rebirth or a second life.”

Wow, that quote is so far removed from reality that it’s almost worthy of Baghdad Bob! You remember, the Iraqi military spokesman who kept announcing in front of TV cameras that Iraqi forces had “slaughtered them all” even as American tanks were rolling into Baghdad?

Nix
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Nix

“Fisker” and it’s association with Europe is still a better brand name for them to sell under than “Wanxiang”, and their obvious connection to China.

If you were not an EV fanatic, and were part of the general public and hadn’t really heard much about Fisker (except maybe that Bieber owned one) which would you rather own:

1) Fisker (Made in America, right here in California with A123 Batteries from a battery company based here in America)
2) Wanxiang with Wanxiang batteries from a Chinese company. (buddy, how do you pronounce that? Wanks-on?)

Now picture that they follow up an even semi-successful Karma re-launch with a very successful Atlantic follow-up. Do you think anybody will actually care about what happened years before?

All that the Fisker brand name needs to be redeemed is a couple of successes. Wanxiang as a brand name is doomed.

ModernMarvelFan
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ModernMarvelFan

Too little too late.

Fisker should have worked on the Atlantic instead…

Loboc
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Loboc

The Caddy dealer where I bought my ELR has not one, but two original Karmas on the lot! Didn’t ask the price, but, I took pictures.

Koenigsegg
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Koenigsegg

how much did you get the ELR for