Faraday Future’s EV Besting The Tesla Model X P100D To 60 mph – Video

DEC 18 2016 BY JAY COLE 51

Last week, as part of the company’s recent teaser marathon for its upcoming production-intent, all-electric vehicle debut in Las Vegas on January 3rd, Faraday Future released a partial video of one of its prototype mules racing a Ferrari, a Bentley and also a Tesla Model X.

Faraday Future Teaser

Faraday Future Teaser

And while the race results were not shown at the time, one naturally assumed that the Faraday Future EV bested the field (otherwise it would have been a fairly crappy teaser to publish in the first place).

Today, Faraday has uploaded the full race, indeed showing its EV taking down all comers.

And that Tesla Model X in question?  Yupe, it was a P100D with Ludicrous mode according to the company.

“Our software provides a competitive advantage that others don’t have.

We are going to do a little better – because there is more in there.”

Faraday says that it will be bring live demonstrations of the EV’s performance to CES next month.

“We put our powertrain to the test against a Bentley Bentayga, a Ferrari 488 GTB, and a Tesla Model X P100D Ludicrous.  #FirstForward and first across the finish line.
Witness the 0-60 MPH verified results at #CES2017.”

Faraday

Faraday’s Steve Schulz (Technical Fellow, Powertrain): “More current = More current = Faster acceleration”

The company may well indeed have produced a faster/better product, but even before we see what that product is, questions surrounding the funding of Faraday just keep popping up, as even today Buzzfeed reports that the company is in “turmoil”, and is at the center of not one, but two recent lawsuits claiming unpaid bills.

Peter Savagian, Faraday's VP of Propulsion Engineering says 0-60 mph timing is now under 3 seconds

Peter Savagian, Faraday’s VP of Propulsion Engineering says 0-60 mph timing is now under 3 seconds

Buzzfeed on the situation:

“…six former Faraday employees told BuzzFeed News the company is headed toward its big CES reveal following a year fraught with financial troubles, including mounting unpaid bills, lawsuits from a supplier and a landlord, and a distracting side project undertaken at the behest of its largest investor. The past year has also seen a slew of departures, including senior staffers.”

According to the report, Auto supplier Futurius claims $10 million owed, and Beim Maple Properties (a property owner in California) that says Faraday has missed almost $105,000 in rent payments for a warehouse.  To say nothing of the stop-work order AECOM has put on Faraday’s Nevada factory due to an outstanding bill of some $57 million.

Reportedly, Faraday Future has secured up to $600 million in new funding as November 22nd, but as of yet no sign of that money arriving to put out any financial fires.

Hopefully, they can get things sorted out, and we will actually see these uber-high performance EVs come to market.  An impromptu race between a 2.4 second to 60 mph Tesla Model S P100DL, a 1,000+ hp Lucid Air (recently debuted) and a Faraday Future supercar would be sight to see!

Faraday Future's website currently features a countdown to the big, production-intent reveal of its high performance EV

Faraday Future’s website currently features a countdown to the big, production-intent reveal of its high performance EV in Las Vegas ahead of CES on January 3rd, 2017

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51 Comments on "Faraday Future’s EV Besting The Tesla Model X P100D To 60 mph – Video"

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Impressive but pay your bills!

Did it race that Model S that was there? Maybe they don’t want to show that one?

That’s not fair! The Model X P100D is a very heavy car, while the Faraday Future EV is made of vapor, which is lighter than air. And what was that thud at the end of the race with the Model X? Was it the sound of Pushmi-Pullyu fainting? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude, you really need to get help with your mental disorder, your addiction to online stalking.

So if you didn’t faint, was that thud the sound of your jaw dropping to the floor? 😉

LOL!

A secret race without outside officials verifying anything? Uh huh. As mysterious as the car they don’t have.

It’s true, racing a production car against one that’s supposed to be built in two years just isn’t fair. Come back with a model I can buy and race again. See what Tesla has out in 2 years.

I think you’ve just been called out as a ridiculous Tesla fanboy! Who knew? LOL

To be fair Pushmi, if half of your comments weren’t utterly one-sided people wouldn’t feel the need to joke about you.

Thanks for the tip about my inconsistency. I’ll work on making that other half equally one-sided. 😛

Hahahahah

Push and Sven, the odd couple.

Yup. This place wouldn’t be the same without them.

Hmmm, we didn’t get to see the Faraday lose to the SparkEV.

The FF has an aerodynamic disadvantge because of it’s camouflage.
And it’s a waste of time pitting an EV against an ICE. I think everybody got it by now.

Well, I’m sure that will impress those who are easily impressed. 😉 The rest of us might wonder just how many times they had to perform that race until they got the result they wanted.

Well, lucky for FF, that version of the model x doesn’t have the internal launch limit which reduces the performance, permanently.

There is still more in there lets get back to work.

Yawn. Show me a factory, service centers and charging stations. Then I’ll be impressed.

I think I Must agree, These guys are F O S thus far in my mind. Until they can prove otherwise..There are Tooooooo many negatives against them to believe anything they claim. They have a lot of work ahead of them before we can take them seriously., However., I DO HOPE THEY CAN SUCCEED..

And with this, InsideEVs will now cease their ridiculous, continuous steam of drag race pornography. It’s only fun when Tesla wins.

Hard to say, since they so rarely lose. 🙂

Pulls back the elastic waistband and releases it, with a SNAP!

Says you!

It’s fun enough to watch EVs beating non-EVs I suppose.

Will it come with a tow bar or can it tow?

I’d be willing to bet that the drivetrain is totally tuned in this case for 0-60 runs. Note that they didn’t confirm that the finish lines in the video were actually 1/4 mile. I bet that the car gets nowhere near the 150 mph top speed of a Tesla. A P100D will do 0-60 in 2.4 and 150mph! And I can buy one today! Ok well I can’t, but someone with $130K can.

Right.

Even if we assume that the Model X was driven “all out” using Launch mode, and assume the driver didn’t… ummm… soft-pedal the acceleration a bit to give the FF prototype an advantage, there’s no good reason to believe any theoretical production FF car (if that ever becomes more than vaporware) would have the performance of this prototype.

Given the sheer volume of absolutely unbelievable B.S. in FF’s various claims, there is every good reason to cast serious doubt on this one, too.

As James already said, I’d be far more impressed if they actually built a factory.

Pu-Pu said:
“. . . there’s no good reason to believe any theoretical production FF car . . . would have the performance of this prototype. . . . there is every good reason to cast serious doubt on this one, too.”

Your entire post is nothing more than pure, unadulterated FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). You’re the biggest hypocrite on InsideEVs, constantly accusing numerous people of being “serial FUDsters”, when in fact you’re a serial FUDster with regards to Faraday Future. You’re a serial FFF, Faraday Future FUDster. However, I must commend you for getting through an entire Faraday Future thread without making a baseless accusation of Faraday Future being a scam. That’s a first for you. 😀

Do you care to elaborate as to why exactly, a production FF car would not have the performance of this prototype? Do tell.

I rode in a prototype Tesla Roadster in 2006 and it was vastly different than the soon to be production model. In fact it had a 2 speed transmission that dramatically changed the acceleration and top speed of the car. That was of course scrapped. Here we have a car that doesn’t even have the wrapping off yet, from a company who is hemorrhaging cash and needs some buzz driven investments ASAP and you want to trust their edited video?

FF made no mention of their EV having a multi-speed transmission that I am aware of.

With regards to “hemorrhaging cash,” this is a startup company that hasn’t yet started selling its product. At this point in their existence, all start ups are spending large sums of cash with no revenue coming in. That’s why startups in this phase seek venture capital and Series A financing to fund their operations. It’s standard operating procedure for startups.

Well what have they done so far except produce hype? When they push out a few thousands cars that people can actually drive, till then, they are just talk with a prototype. Nothing at all.
A factory that is not built, workers not being payed, contractors stopping work. It’s not really all that impressive.

Yea Pushy, where would anybody get the idea that things would change between the mule:

The prototype:

And the production version, which ended up having significantly different statistics than the prototype, including a completely different engine:


The gall!!

/sarc

(Just to clarify for anybody who might be confused, this video is still just a mule…)

Sven, I always wondered why you keep making veiled references to fecal matter (“Pu-Pu”) when talking to Pushmi-Pullyu. But it now makes sense after your repeated comments about your homoerotic fantasies about us together you made in another comment section.

Your repeated use of scat references is clearly just an expression of your latent Coprophilia.

Don’t get your panties in a bunch Nix. I know you’re not the brightest bulb on the porch, but it’s obvious that Pu-Pu is an abbreviation/shortening of Pushmi-Pullyu, using the first two letters in each part of his hyphenated screen name.

Nix, excellent post showing how car manufacturers work/change/redesign new models. It’s absurd how many negative comments FF gets for showing a prototype.

And coming from people who should know better.

sven ranted:

“Your entire post is nothing more than pure, unadulterated FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). You’re the biggest hypocrite on InsideEVs…”

And here, gentle readers, is a perfect example of an Internet troll, accusing others of what he himself is guilty.

For anyone new to discussions of FUD, be aware that FUD is a disinformation strategy, of the sort sven himself engages in all too often in attacking Tesla Motors and its cars.

I remember sven when he was a valuable contributor to posts here, back before he became a Tesla basher.

I miss the old sven.

So you can’t articulate even one “good reason” why a production FF car would not have the performance of this prototype? Got it, you were just spreading FUD.

You guys both need to get laid or something. There is competition in the EV market. Competition is good. Fanboy or no fanboy.

> I’d be far more impressed if they actually built a factory.

Yeah right. You would just move the bar higher, and continue criticizing.

Tesla is taller and sits higher, so that makes FF faster, but probably much less head room

Rick (no, not that Rick)

The FF was black. That’s why it won.

Oh, well of course! So obvious, now that you’ve pointed it out.

Well, since it’s obvious the real race between PRODUCTION vehicles, ain’t gonna happen for some time, I’ll withhold any judgement on Faraday’s accomplishments.

A fair and wise decision. For me I have always derided FF as selling a pig in a poke from the beginning, but then I grew up in the South and know what a Flim-Flam is.

Another Euro point of view

🙂 Good scenario for a film: A bug killed all human beings above 15 years old, world has become incredibly juvenile, however it appears part of the grown up community are immune to the killer bug, those are EV enthusiasts watching 0-60 videos AND giving importance to it. I mean, really, modern human being is so risk adverse that 0-60 in 10sec is more than he can handle on a day to day basis, would that be not true I would have noticed it during my daily driving long ago.

That’s nice, big deal.
It has already been proven that electric cars, having full torque from zero are “faster off the line” than almost any ICE-mobile.

Big deal.

Now, let’s see you translate that technology into “number of cars on the road, nationwide”.

To me, the secret sauce is being able to make an electric car not only a “better car” but a more affordable car.

If you want to make a full size four door sedan, aim for the top seller in that segment and build something that is “off the lot” more affordable, not just something that “becomes more affordable” over it’s expected lifetime. We all can do the math, we know (except for No Comment) that over the expected ten year life a car, electrics are more cost effective to own, but how about getting them priced to sell to cheap b@stards also.

And finally, remember that there are fifty states, because as far as I’m concerned, unless I can buy and service it here in Pennsylvania, it’s as good as vaporware.

Steven, you are right. FF (and Karma and Lucid and Fisker) all now face the same buzz-saw of criticism that Tesla has been facing for years. Supercars are nice, but what about a BMW 3 Series competitor? What about a Honda Accord competitor? Tesla has the M3, so they have that going for them, but this is a bigger problem than just FF, or the other car makers I mentioned.

The core problem is that there are literally millions of possible combinations of ICE car body styles, engine choices, seating choices, transmission choices, door choices, trim level choices, options choices, etc. And they all exist because there are car buyers who want to buy them.

EV’s will have to duplicate this broad of a selection of choices too, from many different car makers. We have a long ways to go.

Not actual races since no times were shown.

This is awesome! What I saw was a bunch of races between ICE cars and EV’s where the ICE cars were clearly the slowest. The X race was clearly the closest. This is an all out victory for EV’s.

I look forward to this race being repeated over and over by lots of car magazines once the future production version of this vehicle is ready, and they can run it against whatever version of the X exists in the future (probably running future Gigafactory batteries instead of the current batteries by then).

When the car enthusiast magazines start running cover stories about rocking fast EV’s instead of an ICE car shootout, ALL EV’s win!!!

…. and the prototype:

http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/volt.jpg

And the production version, which ended up having significantly different statistics than the prototype, including a completely different engine:

http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/chevy-volt-feat-3.png

The gall!!

/sarc

(Just to clarify for anybody who might be confused, this video is still just a mule…)

Sven, I always wondered why you keep making veiled references to fecal matter (“Pu-Pu”) when talking to Pushmi-Pullyu. But it now makes sense after your repeated comments in another story, where you repeatedly shared your homoerotic fantasies about Pushy and I.

Your repeated use of scat references is clearly just an expression of your latent Coprophilia.

Meant to be in response to thread above…