Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Plug-In Spotted Testing In The Wild

AUG 9 2016 BY JAY COLE 29

Chrysler debuted the Pacifica Hybrid minvan this year at NAIAS 2016 (or Detroit Auto Show if you will), stating the plug-in would arrive in the second half of 2016.

Then they said nothing.  

Reid Bigland, President and CEO, FCA Canada, brings the Pacifica Hybrid out of hiding to accept $88 joins Kathleen Wynne, Premier of Ontario, at the FCA Canada Automotive Research and Development Centre (ARDC) in Windsor, Ontario, on June 15, 2016. The Government of Ontario announced that it will provide up to $85.8 million in funding to FCA Canada to support enhanced research at the ARDC, plus advanced training at the FCA Windsor Assembly Plant.

Reid Bigland, President and CEO, FCA Canada, brings the Pacifica Hybrid out of hiding to accept $85.8 million in funding from Kathleen Wynne, Premier of Ontario, at the FCA Windsor Assembly Plant where it will be built

Sure there was a story shortly thereafter related via LG Chem, on the battery maker getting the contract to build Pacifica Hybrid batteries in its Holland, Michigan plant in February.

And the company also had to resurface in June to accept a $85.8 million in Canadian dollars ($65M USD) for the funding of the production facility in Windsor, Ontario.  But other than that, it has been all quiet.

So by way of a PSA (public service announcement), we bring you visual proof that the 30 mile extended range minivan is still on its way, as Gabe Caunt (via Doug B) sent us exclusive photographic evidence of an actual Pacifica Hybrid out testing on public roads.

Seen (above) in all black – which science (and common sense) tells us is the best color for any EV, the Pacifica Hybrid pre-production vehicle was sporting Michigan manufacturing plates; although apparently it must have been on a long-distance test, as it was 1,200 miles away from home in Denver.

As for the second half of 2016 release date, given what we know of the production schedules at Chrysler’s WAP facility (Windsor Assembly Plant), look for the Pacifica Hybrid no sooner than November.

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Cutaway

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Cutaway

 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid At NAIAS In Detroit in January (InsideEVs/Tom Moloughney)

2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid At NAIAS In Detroit in January (InsideEVs/Tom Moloughney)

Some more info on the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica hybrid:

  • 30 miles of all-electric range and 80 MPGe fuel economy
  • all-electric mode capable of over 120 km/h (75 mph)
  • 16 kWh battery, which of course qualifies the van for $7,500 in federal tax credit money
  • batteries are liquid-cooled (same basic system as the Bolt EV – cells contact an aluminum fin that conducts the heat to a cooling plate), consists of six 16-cell modules
  • NMC cathode and graphite anode chemistry, with one of the highest densities for any PHEV at 193 W·h/kg
  • 2-hour charging capability
  • 3.6-liter Pentastart V6 petrol engine; in this case with a lowered output to 248hp with 230lb ft of torque, and two electric motors
  • second-row seats also can be removed, but the battery takes up the area normally reserved for “stow-n-go” seating
  • pricing has yet to be announced, but we thing the “mid 40s” is a good bet

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Bring it on, Chrysler. Make it cost competitive (after tax credit) with a similarly-equipped gasser, and market the heck out of it. I want to see these on the road!

Marketing is finding out what people want in the first place, sales and promotion move the product after the fact.

According to Wikipedia:
“Marketing is a widely used term to describe the communication between a company and the consumer audience that aims to increase the value of the company or its merchandise or, at its simplest, raises the profile of the company and its products in the public mind.”

It’s that last part I was referring to: raising the profile of the product in the public mind. I called it marketing. You call it sales and promotion. Semantics. I just want Chrysler to push the product and make people aware of it. Make people aware of the potentially huge benefits of a PHEV minivan. And sell it for a reasonable price.

The cutaway shows the 12V lead-acid battery sitting in the trunk… Is that right????

Probably. The 12V battery for my CMax Energi and my friend’s Volt are in the trunk. Putting two powertrains into a vehicle takes a lot of space, and batteries are easily moved.

Surely, if they can make this work in a minivan, *someone* can make it work in a midsize crossover…GM, ARE YOU LISTENING!

Sure they are listening.. and laughing. They think you’re nuts. Why would they want to create a vehicle that eats into their core market and doesn’t produce as much profit as the vehicles they already have in that core market?

All they want is to sell just enough of these to get some ZEV credits and do some greenwashing.

“Why would they want to create a vehicle that eats into their core market and doesn’t produce as much profit as the vehicles they already have in that core market?”

Since Volt got about 70% conquest rate, that means they are only losing 30% of their own sales while gaining 70% of the new customer.

So, anyone who can do math knows that is a winning formula.

However, if gaining that 70% end up cost you money for each sales, then it isn’t worth any “conquest” at all..

JEEP is going to make a midsize crossover PHEV next year.

Basically same as the Pacifica Hybrid but with a JEEP form factor.

I really want to buy one of these before the end of 2016–I’m hoping I won’t have to jump through a bunch of crazy hoops to ship one out fro ma CARB state here to Colorado but delay after delay is making that look more likely.

Great to finally hear something after the last 5 months of silence though!

Never a good idea to get the first ones off the line. Especially since Chrysler is new at this.

Sure, but the Colorado State tax credit shrinks next year. And at least I’d be under warranty if there’s any early issues….

The other option was a CPO Model S since here in Colorado I can still get $5K back on a used vehicle never titled in Colorado but honestly this van is a much better family road trip vehicle than a Model S considering the ages of my kids.

Lots of manufacturers test their new models in Colorado. They drive them to high elevations in the mountains as the elevation change affects emissions, power, and efficiency of gas or diesel engines.

Hey guys, what if we put a battery in this hole?

Nice to see this segment making progress, but… With FiatChrysler moving all production offshore other than the Wrangler and Ram, will this get scrapped?

So this is the best Chrysler has to offer for a future, a 30 miles plug-in hybrid, and in the same time Lada is proposing the Vesta ev with 25 KWh and a 93 mile range.
http://insideevs.com/lada-puts-the-plug-in-world-of-2006-on-notice-with-the-vesta-ev/

So Chrysler is indeed behind Lada! Amazing!

Chrysler leaped ahead of everyone with a useable family vehicle that does not have to use a drop of gas for the first 30 miles everyday.
Lada? You are kidding right? 93 miles for them is more like 70 miles. Plus no gas backup makes it a city car. Did you see the specs? 0-60 in 15 seconds? We would not tolerate that here. Sorry Lada.

Acceleration is obviously something they have to improve but it is not 0-60 mph but 0-62 mph and the Renault Fluence EV was taking 14 s on that same 0-62 mph a single second difference. And we are talking Lada here a company that was supposed off the ev radar with far less means than Renault.

I find it very appealing.

But I am going to reserve my judgement until some real reviews are out.

Base on the concept, I think it will help family save a lot of gas in terms of running errands around town.

Priusmaniac, I know you think the car is a joke, but the only thing I have against the car is that it probably will have the reliability of a Chrysler these days, which FCA (FIAT and Chrysler) are at the bottom of the large manufacturer reliability lists.

But as far as the specs go, there’s a lot to like

1). Not too shabby battery (16 kwh)
2). Decent space, with removable seats.
3). (Therefore a practical large family hauler).
4). Decent power both EV mode and Gas.
5). Fairly Quick (I’m guessing 7 kw) charging.

If the price is right, this will cause many more electric miles to take place, and be a good ambassador for other EV’s. Provided it doesn’t break down all the time, of course.

+1, You are right Bill, there is a lot to like spec-wise, and they will probably be the first to market with this form factor. Better late than never FCA.

I understand but the Vestra EV, has a lot to like too, full electric, five Seats (unlike the i3), a real trunk (unlike the Leaf), and a decent looking overall shape. That doesn’t mean they don’t have to work to improve acceleration and range but I find it amazing that Chrysler is nowhere in pure electrics while these Lada guys out of nowhere manage to somehow put together an ev that could at least do as good as the former Renault Fluence sedan. This is especially strategic since apart from Tesla, there are no Sedans available at all. The Bolt won’t be a sedan either. KIA is just now introducing the Ionic, but that’s it. So Lada even only trying to join the ev sedan club while Chrysler doesn’t make any is the world upside down.

Is that the world’s largest 12V battery in the trunk? I hope it is not to scale as it looks like a piece of carry-on luggage!

Yeah, although there is little reason to do it (the Roadster had a very very small battery), since the dc/dc converter can be turned on anytime, most automakers still choose to use relatively large 12 volt batteries still.

I put the large battery to use in my cars for my ‘V2H’ usage. Since I can’t ‘start’ the car without also tuning on a lot of superfluous crap which would drain the high-voltage battery, I can get quite a bit of energy out of the 12 volt one alone and leave the car completely off.

This will outpace everything on 4 wheels in the US -EVEN Tesla.
Now priced at $31,300 for limited version. mid $25k after fed rebate.
Got my checkbook out.

Information so far indicates a VERY basic unit without many options. Alacarte pricing. Also, it seems 2017 is the year it will be on the market.

sigh…..

I wish they’d take a lesson from Tesla and stop trying to compete on price. Make the world’s first plug-in hybrid minivan awesome, and set the price high, so what. You can always reduce the price later; what you can’t do is make a better product after it’s already on dealer lots.

For what it’s worth I’ve been waiting for a hybrid minivan for years, and am really annoyed that Toyota has had one on sale in Japan for a decade but not here. Then I heard the great news that Honda was making one, only to have that shattered when it turned out it was Japan-only as well. I’m ready to head down to Chrysler, blank check in hand, once the Pacifica ships!

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