EV Hub To Provide Full Service Fast Charging Stop With 10-20 Stations, Gym, Food, Groceries & More

AUG 15 2016 BY MARK KANE 48

EV Hub UK

EV Hub UK

Electric vehicle adoption has grown to see a new form of full service, multi-point, fast charging station emerge.

EV Hub UK, founded by entrepreneur David Lloyd, intends to launch the two first stations by the end of this year.

Each station is to include 10 to 20 fast chargers (we see ABB chargers listed among partners), ensuring everyone who needs a charge, can get a charge…and eliminates the “will it work when I get there” scenario that too often plays out these days.

20-40 minutes of charging at an EV hub location can also make that time well-spent with other on-site facilities shopping, business meetings, a quick work-out session, or just relaxing with a cup of coffee and food right there on the premises.

“The EV Hub is a unique modular building, designed for use in retail parks and supermarket car parks and other locations such as park & ride, roadside service areas, airports and transport hubs.

The EV Hub comes with a standard 20m x 20m footprint and creates approximately 800 square metres of retail space over 2 floors (approx. 400 square meters on ground & 1st floors) for coffee & food outlets, business centres, fitness studios and many other uses.

The EV Hub’s modular design means they can easily be adapted to meet specific site requirements in terms of size and shape and can be quickly installed with minimal building and construction work, keeping disruption to a minimum.”

We are not sure whether dedicated charging hubs with broad offering of other services will become the success that stand-alone charging has yet to achieve, but it’s worth a try.

V Hub’s will feature:

  • Between 10 to 20 rapid charging bays, depending on site size, with latest technology allowing vehicles to be fully charged, on average, in around 20 – 40 minutes.
  • An easy Pay As You Go (PAYG) payment facility with all major credit/debit cards.
  • Modern, comfortable lounge facilities for customers to relax and use the facilities.
  • EV Hub’s unique Concierge service, assisting customers with their vehicle charging.
  • Retail, food and beverage outlets.
  • Family friendly areas for mums & dads with children.
  • Business centres and meeting rooms with high-speed broadband offering quiet and privacy for business people on the road.
  • Fitness studio’s and mini gym facilities.
  • Quality EV’s to share, rent or buy through our dealership partners.
  • EV service and repair centres.
  • Our EV Hub Membership Scheme with added customer benefits including special discounts on charging rates and special offers with our retail partners.
  • Our EV Hub Trade & Fleet memberships for companies and fleet owners.
  • State of the art ‘back end’ management software system with phone app that can allow customers to pre-book a charge time slot and can fully integrate with our retail partners loyalty card schemes.
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48 Comments on "EV Hub To Provide Full Service Fast Charging Stop With 10-20 Stations, Gym, Food, Groceries & More"

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Sloped roof, is a Solar roof in the plan?

The solar panels are on the roof of the first photo !

I like the idea of a mini-gym, get a 20 minute workout and a charge at the same time.

Good.. maybe they can connect all of the exercise bikes to generators to help cover the electricity… hahaha.

You may laugh but lifefitness.com does manufacture bikes, treadmill and eliptical trainers with generators to reduce mains electricity draw!

Those, paired with battery storage (Tesla Powerwall’s) and Solar roof, could work out quite well and reduce peak demand charges at the very least.

Great Concept ! I truly hope we see more of it wide spread & quickly. This concept would really have a huge positive impact on our lives.All things should be designed around EV’s Thus making EV’s more acceptable by all and get rid of these Fossil Fuellers., if we want to make positive changes that work., in bettering our surroundings .

A good workout delivers between 100 and 300 W, depending on the athlete. Don’t get your hopes too high 😉

I could easily watch TV for 20 minutes!

Note that David Lloyd Leisure is a fitness and leisure chain, so having a gym makes sense.

500 of these could cover the interstate highway system

You inspired me to do a back of the envelope calculation again.

The US highway system is about 164000 miles of roads. Having a quick charging station every 40 miles (half the range of the Nissan LEAF) would then only require 4100 stations! A quick charging station costs from $60000 to build which means it would cost around $246 million to cover the entire highway system of the USA. The $2 billion settlement with Volkswagen would far and beyond cover this several times over!

To put this number in perspective:

* The US defense budget is almost $600 billion dollars. That would buy one charging station every 87 feet!

* Mark Zuckerberg could finance such a project 3 times over and still be worth $53 billion dollars!

* Twitter made a loss of 521 million dollars last year. More than twice the cost of this project, just for sending stupid 140 character messages over the internet.

* Microsoft bought Nokia for $7.9 billion on 2014. A little more than a year later they wrote it off as a business failure. That is one charging station every mile and a quarter.

Thanks for the perspective.

One stall every 40 miles does nothing really, could you imagine rolling up with 30 miles left and have a person charging and another person waiting already?

Everything sounds nice and pretty until you add in the extra costs. Land permits, cost of operation, multiple chargers and the list keeps going on (what are people going to to at this random charger 40 miles away?) that 246m would balloon into a few billion really really fast when all the added costs are factored in.

Not a sour milk post, just a cold dead fish smack of reality.

Actually all you guys need to do is look at the current Tesla Supercharger network as an example of what a next gen network would need to be. They are closing in on 300 now in the US.

Around 500 next gen fast charge locations with multiple chargers per location in about 6 years from now is what would do the job of nationwide coverage IMO. As the demand grows in the next decade then more could be added if needed. Also, 50 to 100 mile spacing is satisfactory, with more metropolitan areas being closer to 50 and more rural areas closer to 100. Some heavily traveled corridors could have closer spacing to accommodate the demand. It’s really about meeting the needs of next gen EVs.

See my article about Next Gen Fast Charge Networks

http://insideevs.com/op-ed-next-gen-fast-charge-networks/

The Supercharger network doesn’t have to show a profit. I’ve seen some articles claiming that it is actually profitable for Tesla, but whether it is or not is actually somewhat irrelevant. Tesla could quite reasonably treat it as a retail loss leader to promote sales.

Contrariwise, businesses like this EV Hub proposal would have to make a profit. More importantly, every individual location would have to show a profit. If Tesla Superchargers were run as a for-profit branch of Tesla Motors, the company could afford to subsidize all the money-losing locations by averaging out costs and profits across the network.

Not so with EV Hub. If any location can’t make a profit, the corporation isn’t going to subsidize it. It will be sold off or closed.

If you can get to one fast charger every 30 miles / 50 km between the cities that really is a game-changer. That enables EV drivers to make the Journey wothiut too much risk and some drivers will do this. Which again increases the use of the chargers and gives very highly needed Income for the charging operators. Then competition can start, competing operators will want to add chargers on the same route since there are a market here, and owners of shops and serving Places will start noticing that EV-drivers are very attractive customers. They have nothing to do for 15-25 minutes, and if on a longer trip they will have to eat at some point of time, meaning you could sell them $5 charging and then $50 of food.
My fast charging habits went from once or twice a year in the beginning to 20-30 times a year once the routes to major neighbour cities were established. And almost every month new fast chargers are installed on these routes, because it is now profitable, and the location owners (serving Places, malls, shops and even gas stations pays most of the installation.

The assumption is of course that future EVs will have much longer range than the Nissan LEAF but it’s still important to support the older vehicles. With longer range cars they will be spread out more i.e. they won’t be out of juice all in the same place. Of course, in the long run there’s probably a need for more than one slot at every location but getting complete coverage would be an important milestone.

When it comes to extra cost, yes the $60000 per charging station is low but you would preferably co-locate as many of them as possible with existing facilities to cut costs. Some of them will be a lot more expensive for sure. The $246 million is a very rough lower estimate, a baseline to be compared with the $2 billion VW settlement and other events. It shows that it’s in the doable region, for example Mark Zuckerberg could personally finance the whole system out of his pocket and it wouldn’t affect him in the slightest. If this was done it would eliminate a huge stumbling block to EV adoption. It would remove one of the biggest counterarguments to EVs and probably result in a huge uptake which in turn would pay off the system. Nissan (Carlos Ghosn) has been complaining for years about the lacking infrastructure. Well, Nissan made $1.7 billion profit last year. If Nissan, Mitsubishi, GM, Ford, VW, Audi, BMW, Daimler, Volvo and possibly Tesla and Apple all plonked down $50 million in a joint venture – peanuts for each of them – they could do this in a heartbeat and this problem would be solved. Add in… Read more »

Great Thinking ! This would work & it would be inexpensive… This too logical a solution for the government heads to come up with. In government it has to Complicated & insane in order for insiders to get paid off , 0r forget it !

Interesting, init!

Now do the same sums with H2 refuelling stations (at USD1.5m each according to Toyota) and see why hydrogen fuel cell cars will never, ever be a threat to EVs…

Exactly. Next gen fast charge networks will by far be the simplest, cheapest, and easiest to deploy fueling infrastructure there is. It may not be the fastest, but at 100-150 kW it will serve fine considering that not much more than an average of 5 percent of total yearly charging for 200-300 mile EVs is done with fast chargers. Practically this is what is looks like: In the U.S. the average man drives 16,550 miles per year, while the average woman drives 10,142 miles per year, so figuring a generous average of 15k miles a year, 5% is 750 miles. Figuring 100-150 miles per fast charge session, this means 5-8 fast charge sessions a year. Tesla average yearly Supercharger use is 5-8%, and there are a couple factors that push it that high too. http://insideevs.com/5-model-s-miles-supercharged-miles/ In the future fast charging for longer range EVs like Tesla is actually expected by some analysts to reach around 2%. Another interesting comparison is the total yearly time spent fueling an ICE car versus an EV. With an ICE car, figuring fueling time of about 15 minutes per month gives 180 minutes per year which is 3 hours. So a total of 3 hours… Read more »

Especially since each of those $1.5 million hydrogen fueling stations can only fuel 2-3 dozen cars in a day. The mathematical equivalent would be a Supercharger station with only 1.2 stalls, which would cost Tesla on average $60,000 to install.

Check what is “demand charge”: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2015/nov/30/high-charges-lead-san-diego-county-schools-battery/ You reach certain peak power for 15 minutes, you typically pay for it whole year as grid needs to invest to be ready to provide you such power level on demand. It is going up everywhere as intermittent solar/wind is getting higher share. Tesla PowerPacks are some $500/kWh if you want to use them, 200 kWh set can provide maximum 100 kW power. Now try to calculate the cost to run such fantasy place. You may skip millions for real estate, adding chargers to leased parking lots in any existing shopping mall network is just fine. It is just that, fantasy. Not even science fiction. Charging quickly is expensive and will stay expensive, whoever pays for it. Not a problem if you charge at home overnight you may say. Yes when you do it all the time, but it will become a problem when you’ll want to make that road trip on peak travel season and come to a charger together with 100 other once-year customers. You can’t make business from customers who come once a year at the same time and want to pay few dollars just like for a gas tank. On… Read more »

Should add a place to walk a dog and let it do its business.

Perhaps dogs could do their business in dedicated parking spots with signage that says ICE Vehicle Parking Only. 😀

ROTFLMAO!!!!

See the positive rewards for using your powers for good?

Keep it up. 🙂

They should also have free air pumps so you can keep your tires at pressure.

And squeegee!!

I’m up for a coffee shop with wifi, I’m there for a half hour to an hour a day anyway. I’ve long advocated that Starbucks should have chargers.

Hey, Lego City! (Anybody else see it?)

+1

The “gas” station of the 21st century…could be good – looks like they thought of most of the critical things, and the comments here are pretty good, as well.

I predict a line of hotels/motels will follow with level 1/2 charging for every room. EV-Inn.

NPNS! SBF!
Volt#671

At least they’re using ABB chargers rather than DBT, so at least there’s a hope of them being reliable.

Seems to be incorporating what I’ve maintained for a while;
It’s not possible – not right now, probably not for a while yet – to make money solely from charging EVs. The amount you’d have to make people pay, to quickly see ROI, would ensure that only the very, very desperate on the rarest of occasions, would favour you with their custom.
Instead, EV charging needs to be offered as a loss-leading, additional customer service by destinations, attractions, etc (either for free if they’re generous or for a small, token amount), subsidised by other revenue streams on site.
Like how, in Britain, the cheapest place for petrol/diesel will always be a supermarket, as they can undercut on fuel price, making their money instead from produce in store.

Of course, getting these kinds of places to invest an amount of money at this stage, for such small demand, is another matter entirely.

It is also not possible to make money solely from selling gasoline, see the current gas stations model. Gas gets people to stop, overpriced beverages and snacks keep the lights on.

Biggest problem is the gas station model was built around a 10 minute stop, not a 30 – 45 minute stop.

This is a reasonable rethink on the idea.

I think so too, I wish them luck.

I have driven a Leaf for 4 years, and a stop for a hamburger or a couple of hotdogs fits perfectly with fastcharging. My average charging session is about 15 minutes, on longer trips first charge is typically 20-25 minutes and the following about 15-20 minutes. For stopping at McDonalds or more “serious” eating places getting served and eating takes more time than charging. Those days i just need a little more to get to my destination 5-10 minutes is usually enough.

But I agree with the business model, charging operators should cooperate more with businesses on installing fast chargers it is good for them both.

I had a LEAF for 3 years and DCQCed about 3 – 5 times per week, using the almost the exact behavior you described.

I think the use case will change when BEVs all change over to 200 EPA miles as we are starting to see.

There will be less of the 10 minute quick charge, to get that extra 10 – 30 miles (exception is owners with no home charging). There will be more of the 30 – 45 minute stop traveling city to city.

In that sense, Tesla go it right out of the gate in locating chargers.

Josh Bryant said:

“Biggest problem is the gas station model was built around a 10 minute stop, not a 30 – 45 minute stop.

“This is a reasonable rethink on the idea.”

Well, I’d say “the gas station + convenience store” business model.

But yes, and thanks for making that very important point!

I don’t know if the EV Hub business plan will work, but at least it’s thinking outside the box.

Yes, I think this is the way to go, too. Free charging when shopping or having a meal could attract PEV customers.

Why free charging? Is this an entitlement thing?

This is where the money will be made: “Fleet memberships for companies and fleet owners.” While charging stations and gyms go hand and in hand, it all comes down to how much you have to pay for it…Most will probably already have a membership and throwing down $20 to use it isn’t saving much…I’m also not seeing where a supermarket really fits in as we can imagine charging will not be free so if you have the range to make it home, why bother paying to charge? Still bundle with other services, barber shop and massage parlors… 😛

Interesting concept, to marry disparate businesses such as a restaurant and a gym in a single place to attract PEV owners to stop and charge.

But I’m not sure the gym idea is a viable business plan. People join a gym for regular sessions, not the single session that you’d get when stopping en route because you need to recharge your PEV. If it was just an opportunity stop, would you even have your workout clothes with you?

Of course, there are some PEV owners who need to stop every day because their commute is too far for their BEV to travel without stopping. But I suspect that’s a very low percentage of PEV owners. Are there enough of them to make running a gym profitable?

On the other hand, to take the opposite side of the argument: There’s nothing that says you have to own a PEV to get a membership at a gym in this place. So if it has a good location, a gym may be able to create a thriving business even if there aren’t a lot of PEV owners joining.

I guess EV hub is going to find out!

A DCFC network operator needs skin in the game, but there isn’t enough profit motive for it.

But the concept touted here by EV Hub is a workable solution There is a big capital investment upfront, so that is a barrier to entry, but while the cars are charging, you have a captive audience, so there is opportunity. I like it!

Far superior to the odd DCFC at Whole Foods.

Yes it’s a concept that will work and all underway…