European Union Says No To Electric Car Quotas

AUG 9 2017 BY MARK KANE 24

The European Union doesn’t intend to follow in China’s footsteps by introducing a minimum quota for all-electric or plug-in hybrid car sales…or at least that is what they are saying publicly at this moment.

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Currently in the EU there are only general emission requirements, that are designed to nudge (when testing is applied correctly anyway) manufacturers into selling more environmentally friendly vehicles, or pay penalties for exceeding the average norms.

With that said, in some other countries inside the Union, there are additional requirements for a certain percentage of sales to be zero emission, or low emission.

“”Generally speaking, the Commision  is looking into ways to promote use of low carbon energy and transport, but none of them includes quotas for electric cars,” the spokeswoman told reporters.

“We do not discriminate between different technologies.””

China is expected to set a 8% base requirement from 2018, while California (and other ZEV states) are promoting plug-ins through ZEV credits, that indirectly require the sale of plug-ins (2% of sales need offset via ZEV credits for 2018, 4% in 2019…up to almost 16% in 2025), or force a manufacturer who falls short to buy credits from those who do sell plug-ins, to buy itself more time for compliance.

The European Union Commission declined quotas and underlined its stance, after the German newspaper Handelsblatt stated that “sources” at the European Commission were looking to set quotas for low emission cars, such as electric cars from 2025.

source: Reuters

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Here are some reasons for the hypocrisy. Qatar owns 17% of the ordinary shares of VW and 13% of the preferred ones. Kuwait owns 6.8% or Mercedes. German, the biggest consumer of energy imports 30% of its energy from Russia. Now let us look at the labor laws and the work force in say good old Germany. Just what do you think the German government will do with all these people. Remember that the electric car has 20 moving parts as opposed to 2,000. But in spit of all that they have the Paris agreement. The make Donald Trump look like an angel because he pulled out of the Paris agreement. He did that publicly, but the good old Europeans will never do something like that of course. They will just not enforce quotas!

Oddly, Germany moving to EVs would actually HELP German with their reliance on Alternative Energy. They could add a bunch more wind which tends to blow more in the middle of the night.
PERFECT for charging EVs.

The EU,

Run by Germany, for Germany

Vorsprung Durch Betrug !

Unless Germany decides to act then nothing will get done.

Things can happen even when Germany are kicking and screaming against it sometimes. Like the harder EU coal regulations.
But damn was it close when you need 65% of the EU population behind it….

65,14% 😛

But that sounds so aristocratically corporate. Oh, wait!

I don’t know others take, but perhaps our European counterparts can opine on whether local air requirements are becoming an end-run around the industry controlled auto “tests”. Cities, states, countries can set their own targets for NOx and particulates. This is what I understand is effecting the latest diesel recalls.

Even if the Audi Q7 eTron is 10 years late, and we don’t see the Mission E until 2025, leaving Le Mans must have been a humble moment.

Completely spineless. Fortunately, I feel China’s mandate’s effect will ripple across the world. If a car manufacturer is already set to meet China’s mandate, then they’ll probably be more forthcoming to extending that outside of China.

which of CHina’s mandate?
The one that says that EVs will be bought and that unfiltered coal will provide 85-95% of their electricity?
That mandate?

More likely the mandate that has moved coal plants out of cities and been starting to be replaced by extremely efficient and low polluting ultra-super critical coal plants.
A lot better than anything used in the western world.

Also the mandate of renewable and nuclear energy that has put China by far at the top of the transition away from fossil fuels which has increased renewable electricity to over 25%, non-fossil to over 29% and coal below 65%.

That compared to for example the US with 15% renewable electricity and 64% fossil electricity.

Not that you should compare an extremely rich and developed country to one that has been developing and dragging itself out of poverty because you would of course expect the rich and developed country to be able to do more and already done a lot more…

Well, on the other hand EU have quite high taxation on fuels which for evs works like carbon tax. So talking about not discriminating clean technologies isn’t necessarily only empty talk. Althought Europe indeed is behind in electric car manufacturing(Asia dominates there at the moment) so it would be strange to be too strict.

EV proponents forget that going EV in and of itself is not the goal. It is reducing transportation-related CO2 emissions.


Thank you.

Sometimes we EV advocates need to step back from the hardcore “EV purist” attitude, and look at the whole picture. The entire world is not involved in a vast conspiracy to hold back the EV revolution. Nor even most of the world.

The EU does not have a strong focus, too much talking, and too soft on everything.

Strange about the European Union, they usually love Quotas, in everything they do.
But basic I think the German Auto makers is not there yet with long range BEV. This is why!
I talked to one woman in a supercharger in Germany not long ago, she said she god tired of waiting on false promise and simply bought a Tesla, this is the only thing that will change those big company’s, when they start to lose money, until that, nothing will change

By “not hurting” the European car industry the EU might help them to kill themselves.

“We do not discriminate between different technologies.”

Well actually zero emission requirements aren’t about favouring specific technologies but about favouring a specific outcome: zero emission. It can be left to the carmakers which technology they want to use to achieve that outcome.

Of course in CARB’s case it has become about the technology rather than the outcome: HFCVs get more credits than plug-ins but the EU doesn’t need to follow that example.

Non-EU Norway is really shaming Brussels and Germany in particular. Oh and EV-hostile Spain. Norway like Spain is a major oil producer – but the Spanish political, corporate and media establishment would never dare consider angering Repsol, Cepsa and the oil+combustion gang with any combustion phase-out proposal. 2050 ? No – even 2090 would be unthinkable in Spain.

cf. non-EU Norway: after 2025 no more sales of combustion cars.

cf. Britain – no ban till 2040 !
Absurd ! 100% hollow, fairy-dust ultra-procrastination.
Yet our ludicrous UK media applauded like compliant, flag-waving flatterers and fawns – almost none of them mentioning Norway’s get-real 2025 deadline.

Paul G
Editor EVUK

The EU is forcing electrification through the tightening emissions targets anyway. No need for quotas.

The discovery of VW’s cheating really killed off the moribund diesel approach so manufacturers are going to go for electrification and gasoline anyway.

Of course, they could do with adopting better fuel economy tests which would get them to put more battery in their cars, but I suspect that it won’t matter since they’ll be pushed to pushing BEV for the lower rated emissions.

Is this a EV enthusiast site, or just a climate change site? Are EVs better than ICE vehicles or not? If they are, why the mandates? Why force people to buy them? Aren’t they good enough now to stand on their own? (I think they are)

If this is a climate change site, why not cry for a BETTER BATTERY mandate?? Why doesn’t government simply write into law that all vehicle batteries must double it’s energy density by 2020, or 2025? Let’s get to the heart of the matter. Stop screwing around with punishing the consumer.

Because mandates are great to make things happen. It is not punishment, it is education and nurturing.
Helping the consumer to make a better decision. And forcing manufacturers to offer the possibility of a better decision.

No, EVs are not really good enough yet. And the ones that are not on the roads in enough numbers to make an impact.
Even if they were good enough to stand on their own it is about implementing the solution faster.

By the way EVs, climate change and the environment go hand in hand.

Hydrogen that is successfully used to fuel some busses in London,if further developed for mass production,could be a better long term solution than electric cars in Europe and restricted to European ownership without capital or investment from Asia,the rest of the world or the Arabs.Then with free trade,no cartels,quotas may not be needed.

No… just no…