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APR 11 2015 BY
While we wait patiently for Energica to start delivering bikes, we’re placating ourselves by watching their fast-charging in action. Roll tape.
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14 Comments on "Energica Ego Fast Charge Video"
This is why these packs need liquid cooling!
Let’s get some *faster* charging!
(Or just some better batteries I suppose.)
It has an 11.7 kWh pack. It is charging at 20 kW! That is 30 minutes, or less, from full discharge. I think that is plenty fast enough. 🙂
Zero has a ChadeMo fast charge option.
Zero also offers up to four off-board chargers for faster home charging. One owner put the chargers on the bike and drove 1000 miles in a day. He used Chargepoint charging stations: Four of them at once!
Zero did offer a CHAdeMO option, but only for the 2013 model year bikes and even then it was special order only. Many CHAdeMO chargers were not compatible with the ~100V Zero battery, especially Blink units.
And while Zero does offer an accessory “quick” charging solution, it’s not integrated with the bike. It was a marginal solution in 2011 when J1772 AC was not well-established and is an anachronism today.
Terry Hershner’s electric Iron Butt ride was completing using a collection of external chargers totaling about 20 kW, roughly the same charging rate as the Energica charging on CHAdeMO.
These chargers weigh around 200 pounds and cost about $10k. That’s why DC external charging is important.
Well not really. The Chademo devices typically charge at 200-400 volts DC and the Zero will not take more than 100V charge. Thus 2014 and 2015 Zeros do NOT have a CHadeMO option. The ABB 22Kw charger is capable of delivering 50-400 volts DC but so far no one has mated these two
Not even 12kwh is a not enough. The Lightning LS 218 is “available” (well it can be ordered) with 15 and even 20kwh, with a much more powerful motor.
Not enough for you… I’d be fine with it. I could go to work back and forth twice without a recharge.
FWIW, I put about 1k miles on my gas motorcycle last year, and 7k on my electric motorcycle – and that’s living in Chicago. A bigger battery would be nice, but I have to agree that charging is going to be more important. And if reality has taught us anything, don’t get too hung up on these pre-production units. The features may or may not make it into the items we can buy (if we can ever buy them).
Interesting that the EGO is going CCS.
“but not 3X in the foreseeable future.”
BZZZZZZT thanks for playing.
I would, though, put it further out than Luke (…implies). He sounds like he’s talking about battery generations, which are of course going to be shorter than car or even motorcycle generations.
Due respect to Luke, he’s not the last word on battery chemistry and development by any stretch. Essentially what he did was to package existing cells in a very space and weight-efficient way. He didn’t develop the cells (as he kind of suggested) nor does he have any sort of inside track to battery chemistry development. As we’re all aware, miracle batteries looking for funding are pretty much a constant item in our news feeds.
After reading The Powerhouse, I think his claims are, well, optimistic, but more importantly, not particularly grounded in reality.
Read more about that book here: http://insideevs.com/powerhouse-discussion-battery-war-wvideo/
I’d defer to Musk’s comments at MIT recently, for a more real-world picture. I’m working on that story now, stay tuned.
Sounds like my neck of the woods.
Zero has dropped CHAdeMO as an option completely. I had one on order for seven months and was told a few weeks ago that Zero was not going to ship them. Zero has removed CHAdeMO from their web site. There are actually a lot of systems that were compatible with the Zero including Eaton, ABB, Fuji, and Nissan. The systems that were not compatible with Zero were Blink and Aerovironment.