Electrify America Installs First 10 Ultra-Fast Charging Stations

AUG 25 2018 BY MARK KANE 102

Electrify America – 10 ultra-fast charging stations in nine states

Since Electrify America (a program stemming from Volkswagen’s Dieselgate scandal) opened its first ultra-fast charging station in the U.S. this Spring, the network has now expanded to 10 stations.

We were hoping for a little faster pace of installations than 2-3 per month, but maybe it will accelerate later this year as there are 2,000 chargers to be installed at 484 locations. This is still well short of the count of Tesla Superchargers (based on individual stalls) but it’s progress in the right direction nonetheless.

Depending on location, there are several chargers at each station (between 3 to 6 chargers in metropolitan locations and between 4 to 10 at highways stations):

  • 350 kW CCS Combo chargers (with two plugs each)
  • 150 kW CCS Combo chargers (with additional 50 kW CHAdeMO plug)

Here is the list of installed station and of course the map:

  1. Gulfport Premium Outlets(10000 Factory Shops Blvd, Gulfport, MS, 39503)
  2. Brughs Mill Country Store(345 Brughs Mill Rd, Fincastle, VA, 24090)
  3. Chicopee Marketplace(591 Memorial Dr, Chicopee, MA, 01020)
  4. Reston HQ(2003 Edmund Halley Drive, Reston, VA, 20191)
  5. Walmart Supercenter 1065(2400 N Hervey St, Hope, AR, 71801)
  6. Farrar Place(920 Hillsboro Blvd, Manchester, TN, 37355)
  7. Stratford Square(411 Barnum Ave Cutoff, Stratford, CT, 06615)
  8. Walmart Supercenter 91(205 Deaderick Rd, Forrest City, AR, 72335)
  9. T & T Country Store(40 Washington St W, Huntington, OR, 97907)
  10. Walmart Supercenter 402(1932 Rees St, Breaux Bridge, LA, 70517)

For more on how Electrify America will fund the U.S.’s charging infrastructure, see our detailed post here.

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ffbj

Well, even though it’s a part of their name the pace is really not all that electrifying.
So it will take years, at this rate, maybe 10, to complete.

ffbj

Had to check. Yep, that’s the plan Stan. 10 years.
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan

Brandon

The first cycle ends next July. At that point the aim is to have in progress or completed the announced stations.

menorman

The total agreement is for 10 years, but the announced stations have to be finished within 30 months from when they started and I believe they’re now under a year left.

marshall

Yes, it’s ten years, but in the first cycle, 190 million dollars is to be spent by the end of July 2019 for highway charging. If they can leverage the money with such things as the free use of property then the money goes a bit farther. So far, it looks like they are selecting Walmart superstores for most of the highway locations.

If you happen live in one of 11 lucky cities selected for local investment, 40 million is available for level 2 and 50KW charging stations.

There are two listed as coming soon in Western Washington, the Everett Wa. one is now listed on Plug-Share, but not in operation, Mr. Green has has posted that permits have been pulled for more installs.

Note: California has it’s own pot of money. 45 million for community charging and 75 million for highway charging.

David Green

The Vancouver, WA station is also listed on Plugshare, and nearly complete. Was paved last week…

Marshall, I thought its 17 cities for investment? Incl Seattle and Portland areas which really benefit the NW

After a methodical and data driven analysis taking nearly six months, Electrify America selected seventeen metro areas including Boston, Chicago, Denver, Fresno, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New York City, Philadelphia, Portland, Raleigh, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Seattle, and Washington, D.C.
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan

jamcl3

I thought they were going to maintain them for ten years before turning that over to local land owners or whatever. Most of the build process was going to be maybe three times faster? I don’t find it up front on their web page, I will have to dig…

David Green

Nope, they will build it out over 10 years, and then VW will kick back and rake in the bucks from all the charging… Who do you think will have the last laugh?

don

OMFG – Seriously? VW is only doing this cuz they are forced. They will be paying themselves as much of the $ as they can, then will close up EA when it runs dry.
Rake in the cash? Yeah – that’s what they’re doin’. HAHAHA

David Green

Electrify America hired Black & Veatch to design and build their charging stations stations In May 2018, and has gone from 3 stations under construction to 64 in 2 months… In case folks here do not know who Black & Veatch is, they also built a big portion of the Tesla supercharger stations in the USA. Actually their superintendent that is running the EA projects here in WA state, is also running the Tesla SC project in Issaquah WA currently.

Electrify America plans to have 950 locations complete as part of Cycle 1 by June 2019, that includes 300 Highway, and 650 community stations. For comparison Tesla currently has around 560 locations in the USA…

https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan

John
David, this is the guy I appreciate at this site. Courteous, informative, information sharing. Without feeling compelled to regularly take digs at Tesla or remind folks how you’ve shorted the stock and made money from their failure(s). I appreciate how much you know, offering insight to upcoming programs and vehicles, I learn from you when you’re in this mode. I was thinking about it the other day, I think the “us vs. them” crescendo here is a microcosm of how our country operates now, and it’s pretty unfortunate and doesn’t really have to be that way. I’m not a fan of folks who give Tesla a free pass at every turn, as much as I don’t care much for folks who make it a point to tell people that the cars they drive aren’t very good. That’s not very constructive, no one gains from it. Just my opinion, thanks for the gouge. I didn’t really know that Electrify America is gonna be as large as you say, I hadn’t really looked at the its long-term projection. That’s phenomenal, and I feel that charging networks are as important (if not more) than the vehicles themselves. More is always better, I hope… Read more »
David Green
John, I like this mode better too… Its fun to talk about the progress being made in the field of EV’s, and I do not intend to come out with a full frontal attack ever. At the same time I think it is important to blow apart the myth’s that surround EV’s, and be honest both ways whether that is positive, or negative. There are certain people that come on here with the latest thing they heard from an inaccurate source, and want to spread it like the gospel. Sometimes I engage with those people more then I should, which is frustrating, and I often laugh at myself for doing it, because its a no win situation. I am trying to be more disciplined and not engage with folks that just want to argue, and save my energy for folks like you that want to discuss. BTW, I do not hate Tesla… I like to make fun of their managements and misses, but thats just more of an I told you so… has no value! If people wonder how big electrify America is going to be, dig into Tesla’s books, they value their entire world supercharger network at <500M… Thats… Read more »
John

That’s outstanding information. I appreciate you taking the time to respond, I knew we had more in common than not. I, too, have been drawn into engaging in off-topic sidebars at times that weren’t of any value, it’s good to see that seemingly opposites can come together on the same page. For the record, I’ve been coming here for quite a few years now and the majority of the original comments used to be like discussions we’re having, which I’ve missed for awhile.

EA sounds really promising, I’ve long seen new cars coming out like the i-Pace and Porsche and dismissed them simply because they weren’t supported by a legitimate long-distance charging network. But it sounds like hopefully we’re seeing the creation of a whole option equal or better to the Supercharging network. And hopefully EA will force Tesla to continue improving and expanding their existing network. As I mentioned before, as much as I like my Tesla, i like variety, too. Hopefully when I’m ready to add another EV I can look in other places like Porsche, Audi, Jaguar, etc.

David Green

Yeah, I am with you… When I decided to buy I-pace I was just assuming we would keep our Lexus LX, and use the I-pace for local, or going to the cabin, and then use the Lexus for longer trips, but after digging into EA, there is a lot to like. I think VW was terrible for polluting our world illegally, but I am thankful they are building a nice charging network, and will forgive them enough to buy a Taycan when my spot in line comes up, I estimate late 2020. By that time, who knows… There will be dozens of EV’s on the market here in the USA..

Texas Leaf

My prediction that Greenlots was going to do a poor job of managing these chargers so far is holding true. Based on reports on PlugShare many of the chargers are not operational. And Electrify America still doesn’t have an app you can use to see if the chargers are operational or occupied before arriving at the station.

Mister G

Typical of VW always dragging their feet when it comes to electric vehicles. I’m still waiting for their 200 mile EV that was announced in 2014. CONNECT THE DOTS ON CLEAN AIR WAKE UP EARTHLINGS

David Green

EA is experiencing some technical problems with communication in their initial rollout, but they will get it dialed in and rolling… The App Is coming soon.

menorman

The Greenlots app doesn’t show the operational status?

Brandon

Greenlots is providing the back end tech, not the actual running of the network with their app etc.

JyChevyVolt

I think they should have gone with EvGo. You can check status online through their app.

EVguy

EVgo has come a long way in the last year in terms of developing a more robust customer experience.

Vinny

I live in NC and seeing how well Greenlots maintains their DCFC systems in NC and VA if a EA system stops working it will take many, many months for it to be fixed if ever. I doubt Volkswagen ever checked Greenlots performance before giving them the job to maintain the EA network.

David Green

Ever heard the line “You’re Fired” Greenlots will hear that from EA quickly if service continues to be a problem much longer.

Brandon

Guys, Greenlots isn’t doing any service, maintenance or running of the network. Electrify America is. Greenlots tech for networking etc is used, but it’s Electrify America that handles customer service, and maintenance. They have contracts with maintenance service providers who actually perform the maintenance, but Electrify America is responsible for network uptime themselves. Other actual Greenlots locations on their network are very often like ChargePoint locations in that the host is responsible to get maintenance done. Not a good setup either, IMO.

David Green

Brandon, you seem very knowledgeable about the network operations, do you know what is going on with the recent scattered outages? Is it a payment problem, or a communications problem? both?

Brandon

Yes, I try to learn as much as I can about these things, and I’ve also talked to Electrify America on the phone. Basically three things go wrong with fast chargers, and Electrify America stations are experiencing all of them quite a bit. I would say in this order:
Payment authorization, network communications, and charger errors.
They aren’t the only network operator to experience hassles with these issues, as the tech is getting the bugs worked out across all network providers worldwide. But Electrify America is starting from the ground up, in a way here, with uncharted territory of ultra fast chargers, a new payment system using credit cards, and network communications that never work perfectly for anyone.

David Green

I see, sounds reasonable on the three problems. I am curious about 1 thing though, as much money as they are spending, and the multiples of stations, why are they mixing and matching equipment and not just designing and building their own hardware the way Tesla did with the superchargers?

Brandon

I can’t tell you this as fact, but I think I do have a good idea why they have selected four vendors to provide equipment.
Electrify America is installing hundreds of these in the space of a few months, and sourcing fast chargers from ABB, BTC, Signet, and Efacec enables them to leverage all those companies design and manufacturing capacity. They are taking the fastest route they can, and including them all too.

EVguy

Couldn’t agree more – they are just the absolute worst in terms of taking care of the chargers they have in the field. Whenever I need a charge and a Greenlots charger is nearby I’ll seek out the next option which is often far better.

Tech01x

The way they lay out some of these dual plug stations at some of their locations is odd. There isn’t necessarily space to utilize all the plugs. Why have dual CCS instead of CCS/CHAdeMO if you can’t park another car to use the 2nd plug?

Brandon

Each charger has its own parking spot, and the layout is not designed in the first place to allow waiting for an in use charger in a spot right next to it.
Btw, only one plug at a time will work on these dual plug chargers.

David Green

Why do they have the dual cord in that case, is it for redundancy?

Brandon

Good question. The chargers, like most, are designed for a CCS plug one one side and a CHadeMO plug on the other. But since Electrify America is heavily using CCS, both sides are CCS plugs. The two stated reasons are redundancy and ease of reaching charging ports on vehicles. I talked to Wayne Killen about this at the first charge ceremony in Massachusetts at the Chicopee Marketplace location in May, and that’s where this info is from.
For those who haven’t seen the article about Electrify America’s first station coming online and some details about them, see this article:
https://insideevs.com/insideevs-visits-first-ultra-fast-ccs-station-in-u-s/

David Green

Brandon, actually EA stations have 1 Chademo plug per station… all the rest are CCS… Chademo are also limited to 50KW…

VW is defiantly building the system to benefit their own cars that will be coming in volume in 2020, and beyond…

Brandon

Yes, I’m aware they are deploying just one CHadeMO plug per location. And it’s too bad, because one is about the same as none, when it’s the location you totally have to rely on.

yo

Since the government here is not willing to set a national standard I have no problem with that as Nissan appears to be the only holdout planning Chademo use in future cars for the US…

Will

They will change. The market dictated the charger

Cecil T

The Chademo plugs are labeled 50kW but will put out more (we saw 68kW into a Kia Soul EV), and EA didn’t seem opposed to upgrading them further in the future, though clearly it’s not their priority. Remember Chademo 2.0 protocol didn’t come out until May this year, after EA already started rolling these out.

Cypress

And the majority of the other non-Tesla EVs coming out that are CCS.

Tech01x

Thanks for your information.

The situation, however, seems absurd. So the plug count should be halved.

Cypress

That sucks you can’t charge two cars at once.

menorman

Is that the case? I’ve seen previous discussion that suggests that the power output could be split between two cords which on even a 150kW station, still means that both are getting 75kW which is enough for two Bolts or even two Ioniqs to charge at full power at the same time.

Brandon

Yes, unfortunately that is the case. I talked to Wayne Killen about this, like I said. There is also only one screen showing info, so to have two different charging sessions handled isn’t easily possible, let alone the fact that the chargers aren’t designed to function that way, like most DCFCs. Most location parking setups wouldn’t allow two cars to utilize one fast charger anyway.

Cecil T

There’s not physical room to reach two different vehicles (you couldn’t park both close enough to reach), nor does the interface support using two different plugs.

Brandon

Thanks for backing that fact up, my friend 😉

Texas Leaf

There are supposed to be L2 chargers at all the stations but only one station so far has L2 chargers. 1st gen BEV owners and PHEV owners still depend on L2 chargers. A lot of benefit from these stations is going to be lost because there are not any L2 chargers.

Brandon

I’m not sure that the highway locations were ever announced to get Level 2, were they?

David Green

L2 chargers will also be at the community stations, but not the Highway stations. The community station at EA’s home office has the Level 2 chargers

https://www.electrifyamerica.com/our-plan

Cecil T

Their home office has almost 20 L2’s, it’s ridiculous (ridiculously awesome). Plus the normal 2×150’s and a 350. I was just there last week.

David Green

Did it work for you?

Brandon

Yes, he is my friend so I’ll reply for him. If you see on the PlugShare listing he charged his Ford Focus electric at 47 kW. User name Greg H.
He lives near me in PA and we traveled up to the opening of the first Electrify America location in Massachusetts early May. Of us EV enthusiasts who were there for the ceremony and opening, he was the first to get a charger going, and so became the very first person to charge at a public ultra fast CCS charger in the US May 2nd! He got 47 kW there too, which is the max a FFE can charge at.

Yuhong Bao

I wonder if this is partly because they require a different power feed. (For those that don’t know, DCFC chargers typically uses 277/480V three-phase, but most EVs can’t level 2 charge on 277V and require 240V or 208V)

Ocean Railroader

I’m pretty surprised at how at least 25 chargers popped up in only a week on the plug share website built by this company.

What is interesting is I once sent Greenlots a list of possible charger locations along old US Route 66 and Intestate 70 along with Interstate 95 two years ago. And some of these chargers are popping up at those locations.

I even proposed that Walmart would be a very good location for the chargers in a rural location.

David Green

Electrify America is listening to the public. I contacted then 3 different times, and head back within a day.

They have 64 chargers complete or under construction now, that should double before the end of Q3, they are trying to complete the highway network here in the NW, and NE before winter, then will work in the south during the winter, better weather.

yo

thanks for the great info…

Will

No mid Atlantic states mid west states

Bill Howland

So the picture at the top is only a photoshopped version and there is only one docking station at any location?

Johnny

False info. Maryland has them at their HQ….. This was too simple of a mistake. Please fix your process of verification when you make absolute statements. Plugshare even has them. Our family has used them twice in the last 30 days…

Brandon

Johnny, your comment is in a new thread, but I’m guessing you are referencing the question of Level 2 chargers being at Electrify America’s highway locations. Electrify America’s headquarter location does have Level 2, but the fact is that their highway locations will not have Level 2 chargers at them. The metro locations will tho.

Cypress

It’s too bad the highway locations won’t have Level 2 available for PHEVs.

Cecil T

HQ is in Virginia

Brandon

Hah… yeah, that too.

menorman

Interesting and good to see that a decent number of installations thus far have been in middle America states that undoubtedly plugs a bunch of holes. However, one does have to wonder when they’ll start the installs in California.

David Green

6 stations underway now in CA, and at least 71 scheduled by the end of the year, as that is the number of land leases that has been signed by the end of June… CA has been harder then other places to get permits, EA said in their Q2 report…

https://www.electrifyamerica.com/news

Adoreizi

Thanks for these periodic updates InaideEVs! This is vital information for future non Tesla BEV owners.

Else

Can Teslas charge on them?

David Green

At 50KW using Chademo adapter 1 per location…

John

That’s a great option for Tesla owners, although the Chademo adapter is a bit spendy.. David, do you happen to know why Tesla doesn’t offer a CCS adapter? I’ve tried digging online and talking to other folks but no one has an answer.

Mikael

I have the answer. CCS don’t allow adapters. What Tesla should do is to add native support for CCS to their cars, making them able to charge both at those stations and all the superchargers.

David Green

Did you happen to see the I-Pace at the Beijing auto show? It had a charging plug on each fender, they were said to be different specific to the Chinese market…

reader

Translating CAN-bus signaling to Qualcomm’s HomePlug would be a pain in the ass and require a properly sized MCU in there to do just that. It’ would effectively have to act at higher level than a simple comm bridge or even a network router.

David Green

Above my head…

John

Hahaha! You beat me to it.

ga2500ev

CCS speaks German, Tesla speaks English. You need a translator between the two. Also the translator has to be fast enough that when one side or the other calls for an emergency stop, the other side stops fast enough to do no damage. But as stated above, CCS prohibits the use of an adapter. So it’s a catch-22.

BTW CHAdeMO and Tesla speak two different dialects of English and allows for translators. That’s why there is a CHAdeMO adapter for Tesla, but not a CCS.

ga2500ev

yo

Tesla has joined CharIN the CCS organization so who knows what the future holds…
Just about everyone not named Nissan is a member and strangely enough Nissan’s two partners Mitsubishi and Renault are even members…
LOL even Total, Shell and BP are members…
I wonder which direction they think the wind is blowing…

https://www.charinev.org/membership/members-of-charin-ev/

Will

$199 for an adapter it’s not bad

Will

You can charge on the with an adapter

Cypress

Yes. But who cares. Tesla has its own network.

ziv

When do you think we will be far enough along that saying, “Early days!” won’t be appropriate? I am thinking around 2020 we will begin to see the begin of the middle game of the electrification of the US Light Duty Auto fleet. But we really are still in the early days of the transition, and we are a full 7.5 years in.
Back in late 2010 when the Volt came out, I thought we would be further along by now.

Will

It takes while if you don’t have full fledge commitment from the government instead of half ass. Come on we put a man on the moon in 9 years and we still didn’t a man up in space yet when we made that commitment

TM21

What does it cost to use these chargers?

TM21

OK – don’t know if this is up to date or not, but I found this from May
https://electricrevs.com/2018/05/02/electrify-america-sets-initial-prices-adds-location-map-to-website/
30 cents per minute is $18 per hour, so if you charged at home at 10 cents per kWh, you’d pay $1 if you were getting 8 kWh from your 220V 40A charger. So, if they provide 80 kW (10x more than at home, then you’d be paying about double what you could get at home. If you paid 20 cents per kWh at home, you’d break even. Sounds halfway reasonable. I’m sure pricing is going to get tweaked, so we shall see.

Kerbe

The 12 chargers in Gulfport (with six parking spaces) feature 11 150kW CCS and 1 50kW ChaDeMo.

zzzzzzzzzz

And it is called “brand neutral approach” in their plan 😉 True “clean diesel” way :/

I would not mind if it would be built on their own money, but it is built on settlement money that is supposed to compensate society for their crime, not just provide competitive advantage.

ga2500ev

No one was going to built with their own money, other than Tesla. For Tesla it was an existential threat. For everyone else, including VW, it’s the chicken/egg problem between a charging network and expanding EV options. Directing the settlement creates one without requiring the other. It’s about the best result to be had. If states had just gotten the money, it would have evaporated in nothing flat with nothing to show for it.

ga2500ev

Bud

Few own electric vehicles where they are installing chargers

Bla blubb

Maybe because there is no infrastructure today?

Cypress

The point of a DCFC network is to enable EV owners to travel to/thru those locations.

Nicholas

This is great if you like hanging out at Wal-Mart.. seriously, why not support local business and parks, libraries as locations?

Bob

Probably because it is easier dealing with only one entity with many locations, than many smaller individual entities with single locations…

Will

And hours

David Green

Walmart stores are often surrounded by small chain restaurants, and other shops, besides, charging at 350KW you are not going to be there long enough to shop…

Will

Walmart is 24/7

Blablubb

Frustrating to see so many complaints about the development. There are things happening outside the Tesla world. Deal with it

DNAinaGoodWay

EA, like any entity installing QCs, is at the mercy of local utilities and regulators. Often, a station is completed, but must wait for local government approvals and then for the utility to make connections.

Brandon

Exactly. And they will experience the challenges of network connectivity and function, just like EVgo and others. We know that first hand from charging up there at the first one at Chicopee Marketplace, don’t we mate?

Will

Need a couple on I70 and I80 thorough Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana

Will

4 in Ohio on both interstates, 2 on I 71 between Cleveland and Columbus and one between Columbus and cinncy. 4 in dreadful Pennsylvania on i80.

Electric Soul

I tried to figure out if it were even _possible_ to take a roadtrip from NJ to CO in a 93-mile range Kia soul EV with Chademo. I know it would be slow and painful, but at this point, the gaps are just too big across PA and most of the midwest. Maybe in 2020.

raitchison

Interesting that with the exception to #9 in OR all of these are on the East side of the country.

I understand they have to start somewhere but I would think it would make sense to start on the West coast where there is a much higher concentration of EVs.

For example the I-5 corridor through California is currently a (non-Tesla) EV charging desert and there are probably more EVs in that state than in the rest of the country combined.

don

ridiculously slow rollout. They will never reach target

Dudamus

Stretch it out and hope a Judge will say “Ok you have learned your lesson you can stop now”