Ecotricity Moves From Free To £5 For A 20-Minute Charge In The UK – Reactions/Video

JUL 7 2016 BY JAY COLE 74

Ecotricity, the charging provider behind the UK’s “electric highway”, and the majority of all EVSEs found at motorway service stops, has moved from a free to ‘pay-per-use’ service, as indicated in an email to customers today (see full company email below).

Ecotricity's new model favors all-electrics over smaller battery PHEVs

Ecotricity’s new model favors all-electrics over smaller battery PHEVs

Why? The company just says it is time.

In the past the service was free to help kick start the technology – and because realistically there was not enough potential users to earn any revenue of significance.  Apparently, the tipping point as been reached:

“After five years of providing charging for free, we’re moving to a ‘charging for charging’ model.

When we began in July 2011, there was a bit of a chicken and egg situation – people were reluctant to buy electric cars because there were no charging facilities being built, but nobody wanted to build those facilities while there were still so few cars on the road. That’s when we jumped in to help kickstart the electric car revolution in Britain.”

Bonus:  Check out first hand reaction and excellent walk-through of the new program and its effect on the common EV driver in the UK from Andy Rogerson AKA “Electic LEAF Man” who sent us his thoughts (below)

Rolling out next week at some stations, and completed by August 5th, the new program charges £5 for a 20-Minute charge (via a new app that must be downloaded – here).  This fee is regardless of the amount of power consumed, which strikes us as a bit odd.

The format has basically created a two-tier system of plug-ins.  Flat fee is better for some (like fast charging all-electrics such as the Nissan LEAF and Teslas), but not so go for others (such as any shorter range plug-in hybrid).

One aspect that is definitely a negative, is vehicle charging that automatically expires at 20 minutes.  So if you have an all-electric car and you are running low, you have to restart the process at 20 minutes to get closer to a full boost, there is no ‘extended billing’.  Hopefully this situation gets rectified in the future.

Ecotricity operates some 296 stations currently in the UK.  Ecotricity energy customers will still be able to use the chargers for free as part of their paid-for utilities plan.   The company took the time to “add a pitch” to sign up for that service in the email as well

“Nearly forgot … the Electric Highway will still be free to use for Ecotricity energy customers – so if you’re not already a customer, now is a pretty good time to switch. You’ll not only get free use of the Electric Highway, we’ll give you a discount on your energy just for having an electric car. If you’d like to switch, just click here.

The other major player in the UK for public charging – Chargemaster, introduced a monthly subscription model for its stations two years ago, priced from £7.85 a month.

As one might expect, reaction to having to pay for something that had previously been free, has not been great.  Mitsubishi’s UK managing director Lance Bradley offered some perspective from his company in a series of tweets:


Video (belew): Walk through and reaction to new Ecotricity program, and full Ecotricity release can also be found below that.

Ecotricity email to users:

Ecotricity announces rate changes July 7th, 2016

Ecotricity announces rate changes July 7th, 2016

Hat tip to Andy for shooting us his video blog and Wade for a copy of the email!

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I would gladly pay to support such a network. The price is reasonable.

How is it reasonable?

20mins nets you about 13kW at best from a CHAdeMO charger. That’s about 80km at best (gets worse in winter or if your initial SOC is high).

5 quid is about 4.5 liters of petrol. That’s good for about 64km.

So it’s slightly cheaper than petrol at best.

So who in the right mind will want to stop every 40-50mins of driving for a 20-min recharge? Sure, you can stop for 40mins and pay 10 quid, but then it’ll be way more expensive than gas (since charging tapers off).

I’d rather pump gas.

That’s exactly what I’ve said for Alpha earlier on. My LPG converted lexus does 8p per mile going motorway speeds, so to do 50 miles – £4. But you would save a lot of time, without other sacrifices

It’s highway.

How often do You travel the highway?

You have cheap electricity at home but You finance any/all infrastructure & maintenance there.

Fast/Slow chargers need to earn for the electricity, maintenance, and earn healthy profit for the company (so they and others can fund the expansion of chargers even more).

They are utility company and all their produced electricity – green (mainly wind). So if they care so much about their image as greenest, why they don’t care about their customers? (Past, present, future) and forcing them to come back to dieselgate?

This is just madness!! It would be cheaper to run a diesel car with a lot less hassle (no sitting and watching all those people walk by with cups of coffee). This will not encourage people to buy electric cars, it should remain free at service stations, I bet the oil companies have something to do with this. My leaf will be on autotrader tomorrow morning. Bye bye ecotricity and hope you dont make a single penny from your silly decision. And as for the Government, do not urge the public to buy electric cars when there is no incentive to buy one now.

If you want free charging, how do you expect ecotricity to pay for maintenance, repairs, labor costs, taxes, and electricity? Maybe you still believe in the tooth fairy lol

It seems to me that the reason for the complaining is not the actual price of £5.00, but because something that was free is not anymore. See my comparison of Ecotricity’s £5.00 charge to three other DCFC operators down towards the bottom of the comments here.

No, most of complaining about unreasonable cost, not that we will need to pay. I’m all in to pay, but not that amount.

Here’s my findings on some DCFC provider rates figuring a 10 kWh, 20 minute charge:

Ecotricity is £5.00 / $6.50

Blink is £4.24 / $5.50
Sheetz is £3.08 $4.00
Charge.net is £4.20 / $5.40
EVgo is £7.68 / $9.95
Clever is £6.00 / $8.20
Fortum is £4.55 / $6.00

Below in the comments is a more detailed version.

This shows to me that Ecotricity’s pricing is actually quite in line.

Over 40 models to choose from? Im jealous. In the US, according to inside evs we have only 27 modela with a plug. Only 12 of those are fully electric and only a few are available in every state.

15p kWh get government to pay for network save the planet 25p per kWh to high.
We will not use chargers unless desperate now so your
Estimated revenue will be down anyway

Plus app to charge Nissan car wings is a joke at peak times and signal on motorway services is a joke keep the cards or you are in for major complaints

Plus we need 24hr support

15p kWh ok think about it

In 20 minutes, your £5 buys you just 26 miles in an R240 Zoe. Based on a fuel price of £1.08.9, that’s the equivalent of 25.7mpg in an ICE.

I can understand the free laying on of the service for their energy customers…I mean, they’re too expensive for me to consider switching, but I understand that gesture.
However, £5 for just 20 minutes is too much.

Alternatively, they could…
-Introduce tiered monthly subscription levels with amount of access before charge increasing with price.
-Charge per kWh. I pay 12.8p per kWh at home, but I understand that I would pay more when I’m out and about. A figure of around 20p-25p a kWh would be reasonable.
-If they insist on the fixed price per time frame model, £2.50 for 30 minutes.

For me it’s a bit expensive too. But I’ll take my old (not started) project out of the garage and will grid-tie some extra kW of solar panels, this will outweight the costs. Or will employ my battery bank for permanent use instead of emergencies.
I’m doing lots of miles, and I have no choice, I’ll need to be their customer

It could be worse you know. Networks have to do business somehow. Honestly I don’t think I’d be complaining too loud.

The others do. Polar been charging £8 per charge (don’t remember exact amount, people from Milton Keynes would know better), and after they needed to introduce monthly fee and charge per kwh used as people stopped to use it.
Would complain too much? Sorry, I’m not going to pay for someone who cannot stand for himself and raise his voice. I understand your point of doing business, but please don’t forget, they aren’t private, a lot of chargers been donated by Nissan/Renault, RCN been funded by EU (so kind of from your pocket) and you won’t to be not so loud?

Nero, I do agree it could be better. Per kWh or per minute would be the best.

From customer point of view, it’s better per kwh used (if battery is cold – it charges way slower), from business side – per minute

I understand that in Norway (a mature EV market) most fast charging is billed by the minute. This is probably the best because it incentivizes the EV driver to only charge what he needs, and not occupy a charging station unnecessarily.

Given the limited number of Chargers, per minute is a must to ensure high turnover… otherwise the Quick Chargers are used by slow charging EVs and even EV drivers have no incentive to vacate the charger once they have topped up and stay until 100% even though they are now slow charging.

Your case against charging per kWh hinges on your misuse of the otherwise completely valid point of keeping traffic at the chargers flowing. It is a valid point and people overstaying, while others are waiting, is a problem. An unregulated pay per kWh system might open the possibility of people overstaying…but payment per time doesn’t eradicate that possibility either. I don’t quite see how it “ensures that drivers only stay as long as they need to and vacate the premises asap”. There’s a time cap, the charger reaches it, turns off…so what? How does that ensure that driver vacates the premises ASAP? It doesn’t. That driver might not be in a hurry and might not care that the car is no longer charging, or might even have parked there to take advantage of free parking whilst doing something else. To re-iterate my point, payment per time in no way “ensures that drivers only stay as long as they need to and vacate the premises asap”. However, my question to you, is this: Why is the prospect of perhaps charging per kWh – a fairer system of paying – whilst **ALSO** imposing a time cap, completely outside the realms of possibility… Read more »
Pretty good scenario Ian. One thing I can think of in your idea that I don’t think would fly is the fee or fine because of not unplugging 10 minutes after the charge session has ended. It’s a brilliant idea, and I like it, but something just tells me its just not the thing for a company to do to their customers or something… I can’t lay my finger on it. I found this from Norway’s Charge & Drive network on the topic: Pricing the fast charging of electric vehicles correctly ensures the availability of the service. Here is an excerpt: Proposed alternatives to minute-based pricing include one-time fee or kWh-based pricing. One-time fee does not motivate the driver to free up the charger for the next user, since the user aims to get most return for the cost already paid. With kWh-based pricing, the cost of keeping the charger occupied decreases. Thus the motivation to vacate the charger decreases since the costs of using it keeps decreasing towards the end of the charging. According to the experience we have gained from Norway, minute-based pricing is in fact the best way to ensure the availability and efficient use of fast… Read more »

Thanks for that link, that was interesting.
I accept that an unregulated kWh based payment model, could be open to abuse through overstaying, if Ecotricity are unable or unwilling to put into place a firm deterrent against it.

So it’s a shame to think that a fairer system of only paying for the actual electricity that your car has consumed, could not be because of people’s propensity to abuse it, because it would be unchecked.

What if, instead of a fine, the charger stopped after 30 minutes and it was impossible to start another charge from that location, for that particular vehicle/account ID, say for at least an hour or two?

Well, your next idea has a bit less footing that the first IMO 🙂
Obviously some drivers will need to do two 20 minute sessions to get the range they require to reach the next destination, so to not allow a second charge session as you theorize would not be good in that case I say, and there could be a couple more scenarios where that is the case.
All in all a per minute based fee is the simplest.

Very selfish point of view MR. Are you saying that Peugeot/Mitsu/Citroen is worse EV than Tesla and doesn’t fit for purpose?

And… the good thing is that in a couple years 2 or more 200 mile affordable EVs will be available. That will help out people who drive a lot like you Nero.

It won’t really help, as the infrastructure will be in the same state and it will charge at the same speed. Can you charge Tesla faster than 50kw using ecotricity network even if you can do 200 miles today? No, you cannot

That is true, but… there would be at least two more hours of driving that could be done from the charge received at home the night before.

I’m not so lucky and cannot afford to spend so much time at home. For me home – place for sleeping. I’m all the time away, work, friends, free time, hobbies.

The ZOE R240 is not quick charge capable.
If you want Quick Charge you should get the Q210 which charges at 43kVA.

AlphaEdge, I’m glad you’re wearing pink glasses and I can tolerate it. How often you’re going somewhere far with your EV (if by any chance you own one)? I do, often. The price is not reasonable at all, it is actually very unfair. Even the most expensive (up to this morning), Polar network, having a prices as a joke after ecotricity introduced their. Personally for me (because of my mileage) it comes out cheaper to loose insane amount of money of selling my e-nv200, by diesel equivalent and go on diesel (yes, I counted that it comes out cheaper even after maintenance, like oil, filters, exhaust, tyres, etc). So either you’re working for ecotricity, either you have no idea what are talking about. Even in Germany it’s cheaper, most paid per minute, some per kwh used. I can see big conflict of interest, or they just using brexit. As far as I remember, ecotricity pumps marked RCN cannot be charged for particular amount of time as it’s funded by EU. I’m not against pricing, but that amount is just insane. I would rather pay £100-150 annually, instead of £5 per charge, as I’ll have journey Yorkshire to Brighton and back… Read more »

Another reason for me to switch to diesel is that HMRC doesn’t “count” electricity as fuel, so if they really introducing £5/20min, it cannot be counted as business expense for me, that means I would need to cover from my own pocket and that’s not a business anymore, it’s loss.

But it will count your electricity bill, what it means is you have to switch your supplier to ecotricity to claim this as a business cost.

I know their is no other choice at the moment, which sucks, but until the likes of British gas or e on have their light bulb moment you are stuck with ecotricity.

I would have expected more than £5/20min. I think they will lose money at that price.

Cell phone access only I don’t like. I don’t see why they can’t continue to use the RFID cards.

This sounds far worse than EVGo’s pricing and most certainly will leave people taking the gas cars for long trips! I’ve complained to EVGo about their pricing before – $4.95 to start a session + $.20 per minute if you don’t have a regular subscription, otherwise $14.95 per month membership and $.10 per minute. This doesn’t make sense to have a membership if you are not using it frequently, and the prices for the occasional charge are outrageously expensive. Nissan of course does the No Charge to Charge for most of the country which gets you free charging (with limits) for the first 2 years, but leaves you high and dry afterwards. How about a single LIFETIME Membership fee that contributes to the creation of the network, then regular usage fees. If EVGo’s pricing were $4.95 for the first session of the month then $.10 per minute – I would be completely fine with that. But if I’m going 250 miles in one day in my Leaf then I’ll need 3 fast charges for about 20 minutes or so each – current pricing model makes that $26.85 – or $.1075 per mile which means at $2.50 per gallon gas it… Read more »

Tesla’s model is to use the charging network to sell very expensive cars. Ecotricity’s model is to use a fast charge network to gain really good domestic electricity customers. Neither are trying to make money from fast charging. Ecotricity don’t want you to pay 5 pounds a session they want you to switch to ecotricity for your home power. The 5 pound rate is there to get new customers – you’ll pay it for a few months and then switch.

selling power per kWh through a fast charger is a really hard business because people don’t buy very much energy leading to that energy being really expensive or the business making a loss. Conversely running a fast charge network as an electricity retailer is not a huge overhead because only 10% (if that) of your customers power will be delivered to them via a fast charger.

IMO only tesla and ecotricity have a decent model wrt to public charging. I am sure other models will emerge but I can’t see a sensible future in selling electricity at the side of the road like we do petrol where people pull in, charge and leave only paying for the fuel.

Letter states fiver for 20 minutes of fast charge. Most short range PH do not have fast charge, so it shouldn’t affect them. The question is, what is the billing for them?

20 minutes should get you about 50-60 miles on Leaf; starting at high state of charge will be more expensive, preventing people from sitting there at 2 kW (95%) out of 50 kW charger, thus reducing waiting. I don’t like this pricing as it seems too high, but it’s better than free.

50-60miles you would only add if battery temp is above 7 bars. If its winter, your battery is cold, then in 20mins you would get just 55-70% (which gives just 30-40 miles driving with very light foot) in my own experience. Don’t forget that we have very mild winters in UK and if it’s sunny – that day calls summer.

It’s time vs kWh…While by kWh seems more fair to the consumer, the company see’s it differently…If you do 3 back to back 20mins charges, you’re there for an hour…The company wants 15ps…If they gave the person charging a discount for not taking as much juice, they could have missed out on someone coming by and paying full price…

Just checked, the most expensive network Fastned in Netherlands (all private, not funded by EU (didn’t dig deeper, but it looks like it’s not funded)), ecotricity is funded, 30p/kwh with current currency rate. And again, it’s private, not funded!

Fastned is €0,78/kWh without subscription, way off the 0,30p. With subscription it’s €12 and €0,35/kWh or €100 for unlimited charging.

Some of it is funded (a few donated chargers by Mitsubishi), but the vast majority is simply investments and loans.

Also it is not more expensive than the competition per se. For occasional users it is (competition is €0,50/min in general; €0,70/kWh with a warm battery), however for frequent users it is quickly a much cheaper option than its competition.

Also important to keep in mind is that slow charging is mostly already €0,35/kWh. To put some perspective on the pricing in general.

Disclaimer: As an investor (albeit a small amount) and frequent user I may be biased 😉

Sorry, didn’t dig deeper as mentioned, and took first figure, which is in their website

No problemo, just wanted to elaborate as I know about it 😉

TA-DA! The trap is sprung!

Ecotricity put in a charging network when it was dumb. Everyone laughed at them while they build a monopoly position in the uk on service station fast charging and now your choices are

you can pay a lot through an app that is probably going to be totally unreliable

or

you can switch your electricity provider and get free access…… I wonder what the “ideal” electricity customer is – perhaps someone who uses a whole shed load of power off peak.

I love ecotricity for doing this, I hope over the next 5 years they tear the existing big power companies a new bum hole.

A perk for tariff customers is an excellent idea. A fiver for such a limiting time should be more like per session and charged a second time after 45 minutes.

Anyway, it’s not terribly great, but sure as hell is clever! Especially since how much they have invested in renewables and their RC service.

It’s a shame the ESB won’t do something like that… Actually, it’s not like they can, since ESB is like the national government oversight of all electric grid operations.

hmm…

I can certainly understand that they want to start charging for the service but this doesn’t make sense. First of all £5/20min is really expensive and it still might not be enough to charge for 20 minutes.

It would make far more sense to charge per kWh, say a 3x premium over their normal rates. After all, it’s not only access to electricity it’s also a convenience to fast charge. Utility customers could get the normal rate if they want that lock-in feature, that is good enough of an incentive. Then add the usage to the regular electricity bill or sell packages with pre-paid kWh:s for tourists or non-customers.

Second, only using a smartphone app when they have gone through the trouble of sending everybody a smart card just doesn’t make any sense at all. They have done the hard part already – getting a smart card system to work – why throw that away?

I think they were just in rush and a lot of questions were not given to them. I’m all in for pay charge, but not £5/20min.
I applied for a few abroad charging options (Benelux, France, Germany), all of them having an app, but I’ve been sent a card (keyhob from PlugSurfing) and everywhere been saying – card, in case of no signal on your mobile, or connectivity in the charging station

This is just madness!! It would be cheaper to run a diesel car with a lot less hassle (no sitting and watching all those people walk by with cups of coffee). This will not encourage people to buy electric cars, it should remain free at service stations, I bet the oil companies have something to do with this. My leaf will be on autotrader tomorrow morning. Bye bye ecotricity and hope you dont make a single penny from your silly decision. And as for the Government, do not urge the public to buy electric cars when there is no incentive to buy one now.

Well, I can assure you of a couple things: the oil companies are not behind this move, and DCFC infrastructure is quite a costly proposition believe it or not.

Typically two thirds or the electric bill for DCFCs is utility demand charges.

I would not expect charging at a fast charger to be cheaper than gas (or petrol as they say in the UK).
Welcome the the real world reality of EV fast charging.

Don’t be daft, charging stations aren’t free you have to pay somewhere. If you use the network a lot you should change to ecotricity for your home use and get free access. if you just need to use it once in a blue moon then pay the once off charge. It is still cheaper to run an EV than a diesel.

IMO Anything that kills 40,000 Britons a year should be banned, tax payer funded perks are fine to get things going but eventually any network or technology has to stand on its own 2 feet.

I agree. You said it how it is!!

Way to expensive. These tiny battery cars are just useless unless you stay close to home. Only Tesla really understands the electric car. If you got 200miles for 5 pounds, that would be acceptable. If you are going to charge this much, you’d want guaranteed availability too, like 8 stalls.

It will be interesting to see if Robert Llewellyn says anything about this. Ecotricity used to sponsor his Fully Charged YouTube videos a number of years ago.

He tweeted already that he’s going to interview them soon and it’s all planned already

Look… 90% of your charging or more is done at home cheaply. I am more than happy to pay for the convenience of fast charging for the times I need to drive longer distances.

Charging the customers is fine, but it should not be a flat charge, instead it should be based on the KWh drawn.
That will be fair.

Anyway good work. Keep it up and build more charging stations.

if cars charged at the same speed and throughout the charge (0 to 100%), per kWh payment would make sense.
As this is not the case, you are paying the service to be using the charger for a specific time regardless of your cars capabilities… up to you to decide whether the pricing model makes sense.

In USA at least, there are regulatory hurdles involved with billing by kWh; I believe billing by kWh means you are classified as a utility company.

As such, many commercial charging companies elect to bill by time to avoid being subject to these regulations.

I am really surprised by the comments here. What did everyone think was going to happen? Ecotricity always said they would eventually charge, they are also an electricity company that makes all its money selling electricity. This is a very smart, very effective way of driving adoption of ev’s to increase power consumption and increase your customer base. Just because the company sells renewable energy doesn’t mean it is a charity.

IMO what we need more of is people making money out of doing good things.

They lost me when I saw they were still calling the charging stations “pumps”. This is not helping the EV revolution.

Hahaha… LOL!!!

Fast charging will always be expensive.

I can tell the numbers for France, but it should be about the same in UK.
3 phases 220V setup is about 1500 €, and with a fix fee of 500€ per year. Above 36 kW, you have to install a high voltage line which costs 20-50 k€, plus a 50 kV transformer. That’s a lot of money just to bring power to the charging station.
There is a lot of 22kW charging station coming now with Chademo and CCS. With a 22 kW Chademo I can charge half of my Leaf 24 in 30 minutes. And that’s 0.25 € every 15 minutes for the first hour. Then it’s very expensive.
22kW Chademo and CCS charging station powered by low cost power lines can stay cheap.
However, if you are really in a hurry, you will pay more for expensive equipments.

You need to add the cost of a new phone if you are a Windows Phone user

I guess it sucks for all 5 of their users.

Too many Tesla drivers scrounge electricity :-).

Ok, let’s break this down and have a good look so we can all get a snap shot of real world DCFC pricing. Basically 40-50 miles range added in 20 minutes from receiving 10-13 kWh that is going to cost £5 ($6.45 in the U.S.) Lets use 10 kWh gained as an average. Again, that’s £5.00 per 10 kWh 20 minute charge, and $6.50 per 10 kWh 20 minute charge on Ecotricity’s network. This comes out to £0.50 and $0.65 (U.S.) per kWh. To compare: Some Blink stations in the U.S. bill by the kWh at $0.49 or $0.59 for members, and $0.59 or $0.69 for guests. That’s an average of $0.55 per kWh for members and $0.65 for guests. 10 kWh for $0.55 comes to $5.50 per 20 minute charge. That’s £4.24 On the East coast, some enterprise has DCFCs at Sheetz gas stations that bill $1.00 per 5 minutes, which is $4.00 per 10 kWh 20 minute charge. That’s £3.08 In New Zealand Charge.net charges NZD $0.25 per kWh + NZD $0.25 per minute. That’s USD $0.18, so $1.80 for the 10 kWhs, plus $3.60 for the 20 minutes. That’s $5.40 In GBP its £0.14, so £1.40 for… Read more »

You missed EVgo. They account for all DCFC station in my area except for 1 Supercharger location. The are $5.95 to plugin then $0.20 per min so a 20 min session would cost you $9.95 US or £7.68. Looking closer at the site it looks like you can sign up for their flex plan for a 1 time fee of $4.95 and then it drops from $5.95 to plug in to $4.95. But it still looks to be cheaper in the UK then the US vs EVgo and to make matters worse US gas is much cheaper then in the UK. Right now in my area gas is $1.89 per gallon or assuming my math is correct it would be around £.50 per liter of gas

Hit save to fast. According to 1 site Gas cost £1.12 right now in London so we pay more to charge and less for gas stop crying you don’t have it so bad.

Thank you Robert! I wasn’t sure on EVgo and I didn’t take the time to check it out. Yes, they are the largest DCFC provider in the U.S.

This price comparison exercise has been very interesting and educating for me, and I hope to others as well.

Here is EVgo, Clever, and Fortum added as well:

Ecotricity is £5.00 / $6.50
Blink is £4.24 / $5.50
Sheetz is £3.08 $4.00
Charge.net is £4.20 / $5.40
EVgo is £7.68 / $9.95
Clever is £6.00 / $8.20
Fortum is £4.55 / $6.00

FYI, Fortum and Grønn Kontakt in Norway have the same rates.

Guys, you’re comparing very different things in here. Petrol cost £1.25 per litter in the motorway service station, not per gallon.

Norway having very big incentives for EV’s.
USA some states having a lot of different incentives when you buy EV.
Then there is a different standards of living. And you’re sitting near the same table and talking just about the prices, when they just reflect amount leaving from your pocket, but nothing else.
Start from comparing minimum wages, what does it cost to buy an EV and so on, then discuss why do you think that £5 (£6/30min from yesterday, 11th of July) is fear and cheap for 20mins.

Stop all the whining…the tooth fairy is not real and “free charging” is not real…welcome to reality. I would gladly pay for a cleaner transportation product.

I fully disagree with the article.
Slow charging plug ins, should not be using this network.
Payment per time spent makes the most sense… it ensures that drivers only stay as long as they need to and vacate the premises asap.
If payment per kWh was set, there would be no incentive for drives to leave even when the car is no longer quick charging (past 85% SOC)

Good luck to Ecotricity!

Jean

They been saying that chargers are for 30 min use to allow all drivers to charge, been saying all those 5 years. How many of those who hogging the chargers reading T&C’s? Meeting hoggers daily, not once.

Regards to per cents after 80%, I drive e-nv200, sometimes it’s a must to charge over 90% as it’s average is not that great as Leafs. With eco driving skills I’m getting just 3.3kw/m. Oh dear, if it’s raining and you have headwind.

No one wants to do 50mph on the motorway, buf when it will be limited to 20mins – I won’t have a choice

Maybe someone should market something like U. Delft’s Stella Lux? It kind of takes the trump card (against fuel price gouging forever) of panels on your house and integrates it into the vehicle.