Details Leak Out On BMW-Toyota Plug-In Hybrid Supercar – Target Is To Crush Porsche 911


Beating The Porsche 911 Is The Target

Beating The Porsche 911 Is The Target

The upcoming BMW-Toyota plug-in hybrid, codenamed Silk Road 2, is set to challenge or perhaps even destroy the Porsche 911.

Here are some details on the jointly developed PHEVs, according to CAR magazine:

“Developed under the codename Silk Road 2, the proposed BMW Z7 and Lexus ZC/ZR are cutting-edge sports cars which will cost around €90,000, or £73,000. Slap bang in Porsche Carrera territory, then.”

“CAR understands the sports cars are already under development and will break with tradition in more ways than one.”

“This will be the first mid-engined mainstream two-seater for both brands – as well as the first plug-in hybrid sports car with a six-cylinder engine.”

“According to an insider, it was BMW who pushed for this car ever since it was clear that the proposed 630bhp carbonfibre M8 would be grounded to keep the road clear for the politically more correct i8.”

So, we’ve got both a BMW and a Toyota plug-in hybrid featuring a six-cylinder engine (twin turbo 3.0-liter straight six from BMW, of course) and arriving in late 2018 or early 2109.

Basically, a BMW i8 on steroids.

CAR magazine adds:

“A quick look at the spec sheet will banish any such Longbridge associations: common components are believed to include a twin-turbo engine, a super-swift seven-speed, dual-clutch transmission, a supplementary 150bhp e-motor.”

Sounds swell to us.

Up to 500 total hp is predicted to be on tap, providing for possibly a sub 3 second time in the 0 to 60 mph dash.  Curb weight is expected to be less than 3,600 pounds.

CAR concludes:

“Could the 911’s hegemony as the benchmark £70k sports car be under threat? If anyone can make a dent on the Porsche’s dominance, we’d back BMW and Toyota to make a fist of it…”

We applaud the combined effort between BMW and Toyota and are especially please to see that the PHEV route was chosen.  Unfortunately, we must wait 4 agonizing years to see these 2 PHEV supercars hit the roads.

Source: CAR

Categories: BMW, Toyota


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17 Comments on "Details Leak Out On BMW-Toyota Plug-In Hybrid Supercar – Target Is To Crush Porsche 911"

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“arriving in late 2018 or early 2109″…I am betting it will be closer to the latter 😉

So BMW is going to sell a plug-in hybrid sports car that will vastly outperform the i8 and sell for $30k less? Hmm, that screams of company mis-management or a total lack of commitment to the “i” brand.

This is part of the i program. Volume and reduced battery costs by 2019 (5 years from now) should allow them to greatly cut the cost. This should cut the cost of batteries and carbon fiber for the i8 as well.

My guess is for $70k though you get a 3 cylinder ice, for a lot more money you get a 4 or a 6, more batteries and more speed.

This is definitely not part of the i program. And if it is then the i program is nothing but a joke.
A 6-cylinder car doesn’t belong in any car that wants to be green. To be honest it doesn’t even belong in the car world at all. Even the i8 is kind of a joke because of the lack of battery capacity.

scratch that last comment. 6 cyclinder only appears and starts at 90,000 euros. I’m sure options push it higher. That should not be hard given that the 335i has that same basic ice. battery and motor costs are already low enough. The key is bringing down the price of carbon fiber, and selling enough volume between the two companies to recoup the R&D.

So if they have all the tech themselves, why is Toyota a partner on this? This whole project confuses me.

It would have made more sense before, or instead of, the i8. I just can’t see how they can have two 2+2 PHEV super cars in their vehicle lineup. Maybe this is just a next gen i8 and CAR magazine got it mixed up.

Lexus does some things very well as could be seen on the LFA, but it was just too expensive. BMW has some trouble polishing cars. BMW likely will provide the ice, but lexus may refine it and make it more reliable. BMW definitely the carbon fiber and steering 😉 Toyota may provide the hybrid transmission and logic, here they have a lot more experience than bmw. We don’t know who will make the batteries. Lexus buys from panasonic, bmw from a123 (probably dead now that it is owned by the chinese) and samsung. It could even be lg. bmw partnering with lexus gets to share the R&D funds, and both can use what they learn in less expensive cars.

Yawn. More plug-in supercars. I wouldn’t want this vehicle or a 911.

I get what you mean David, but if every single line of luxury vehicles gets a plug, it is a good sign of things to come for the mainstream market.

Luxury is the only segment where OEMs can afford to try out the more complicated and expensive powertrains.

I’ll take a Tesla, thanks.

Booooring… Same old ICE’s…

If it isn’t fun to control, and drive, it doesn’t “destroy” anything. Blinding speed isn’t what beats a 911. Sorry. Even Porsche is forgetting this.

The Fisker was That not also a v6 hybrid or was it a v8

4 cylinder. The modern 4 cylinders are performing as good or better than v6’s and v8’s while being much lighter and more fuel efficient.

Fisker’s 4 banger sucked.

It is basically an engine that comes out of the GM’s part bin. It is NOT even a good part bin. It was a left over Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice engine…

Meh, I’ll take a nice used 2013 Chevy Volt and update with hacked software so the engine can help with acceleration, 0-60 in ~7 seconds is fine for me

Writer use the term “destroy”. In that time Porsche will be coming up with a second generation. Obviously writer is biased or has blinders on.

Hmmm…would seem to run counter to Toyota’s “fuel cells are the future” mantra. 😉