Consumer Reports Downgrades Model S, X – Tesla To Respond With OTA Update

APR 26 2017 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 77

Consumer Reports Discusses Model X

When a standard safety features is still missing some six months after promised, a downgrade from Consumer Reports is to be expected.

Consumer Reports states:

“When we purchased our latest test car, we were assured automatic emergency braking would be enabled by the end of 2016,” says Jake Fisher, director of Consumer Reports’ Auto Test Center in Colchester, Conn. “We’ve been waiting for this important safety feature, which is standard equipment on much cheaper cars.”

Tesla Model S Automatic Emergency Braking Test

With the feature still not available, Consumer Reports had no choice really but to adjust scoring for the Model S and X. You can’t wait/hold out forever, right? Consumer Reports states:

“The Tesla Model S loses two points in the ratings, dropping to a score of 85, from 87. The original higher score was based on the AEB system in the earlier version of the Model S. The new lower score moves the ranking from the top spot in the ultraluxury car category to third behind the Lexus LS and BMW 7 Series, among the seven cars rated.”

“For the Tesla Model X, the score drops to 56 from 58, moving it to near the bottom of the luxury midsized SUV category.”

The Model X’s low score is largely due to reliability problems, linked almost entirely to the Falcon Wing doors.

Consumer Reports reached out to Tesla for comment and the automaker responded. According to Tesla, it will now push out an over-the-air update for the Model S and X later this week (Thursday is the target put forth by Tesla). This update will activate automatic emergency braking.

*UPDATE: Bloomberg is reporting that Tesla is taking swifter action than expected in response to this scoring downgrade. Apparently, Tesla is rolling out the update now.

Tesla’s statement:

“Automatic Emergency Braking and other safety features are a top priority, and we plan to introduce them as soon as they’re ready. We believe it would be morally wrong and counterproductive to our goal of improving consumer safety to release features before they’re ready, and we believe our customers appreciate that.”

This isn’t the first time that Consumer Reports reached out to Tesla directly to ask when automatic emergency braking would be added. Consumer Reports states:

“Consumer Reports questioned Tesla in January about AEB as part of planning for the magazine’s Annual Auto Issue, which focuses on vehicle testing and ratings. Tesla gave reassurances then that AEB would be launched soon. The company further assured CR testers for the review of the Model S 60D in February that the update was weeks away. When the review was published March 17, the new AEB still had not been launched.”

But now it seems that since Consumer Reports decided to downgrade two Tesla models, the automaker will swing into action. Coincidence? Doubt it.

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77 Comments on "Consumer Reports Downgrades Model S, X – Tesla To Respond With OTA Update"

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vvk

I have grave concerns about this. As it is, when TACC is engaged, the car brake checks once in a while. It is extremely dangerous and uncomfortable, to say the least. However, if TACC is off, currently I can be assured that the car will not be doing this. I assume this new OTA update will take away that option. I hate CR.

Michael Will

If your car has this kind of issue get it fixed at service center. It’s not normal obviously.

vvk

It IS normal, obviously. They all do this.

vvk

I should have said, not just Teslas. All cars with emergency braking and other systems of this kind have false positive reactions. I see it in cars reviews all the time. All cars, Hondas, Volvos, BMWs, Mercedes, etc. They see and approaching large road sign — emergency braking. Turn left in front of a quickly approaching car — emergency braking. Etc, etc.

MikeM

vvk said:

“Turn left in front of a quickly approaching car — emergency braking. Etc, etc.”

What????
Is this really happening?
If so, this is way beyond annoying. It would be in the realm of deadly and criminally negligent (on the part of the manufacturer, that is).

Anyone confirm?

unlucky

I have a car with emergency braking. It doesn’t do that. The warning goes off sometimes when it shouldn’t, but it never applies the brakes when it shouldn’t.

Nix

vvk — if you don’t like the default settings, change them.

unlucky

I’d be surprised if changing the warnings settings changes the automatic brake application action. It doesn’t do so on other cars.

Basically, the system has 4 levels of being alarmed. The warnings happen at one of the first 3 (selectable) and the automatic application of the brakes happens on the 4th. Moving the warnings doesn’t change the threshold for the automatic application I think.

Michael Will

CR: Quick, downgrade before they fix it or else we lose out on the publicity

What a bunch of losers

Four Electrics

Consumer Reports could have downgraded AP2 cars immediately upon launch. Instead, they have them a grace period in which to fix their issues. In response Tesla repeatedly lied, er, made inaccurate forecasts as to when the feature would be ready. Eventually CR’s patience was exhausted.

ffbj

Oh, Brother!
They’re not only ones whose patience is exhausted.

unlucky

Yes, one of the unfortunate things here is that Consumer Reports will give a company full credit for having a feature just because their CEO talks as if they do.

Removing AP from their cars was a huge downgrade. Removing the safety features was also. Tesla should have been marked down immediately.

CR, like so many other people, get tied up in the dream of Tesla and forget to be as critical of the product as they would if other companies made it.

needa

“CR, like so many other people, get tied up in the dream of Tesla and forget to be as critical of the product as they would if other companies made it.”

I don’t know about CR, but completely agree on the rest of it. Too many fanatics and apologists to even discuss the issues, as there are no issues in their eyes. Kinda like O’bama said the other day in Chicago… When the media reinforces your beliefs, there is no way to have a debate. /nutshell

Pushmi-Pullyu

Tesla repeatedly lied, er, made inaccurate forecasts…”

Yet another “fair and balanced” FUD post from one of our resident serial Tesla bashers. 🙄

Think you used enough hypocrisy there, Butch?

unlucky

Yes, it’s not technically a lie if you believe it. But let’s face it, the impact on the customer is indistinguishable. It doesn’t matter to the customer if Musk fools himself repeatedly about deadlines or if he simply fools the customer. Either way the customer ends up with faulty promises.

Pushmi-Pullyu
My issue with Consumer Reports — aside from the way that they seem to be giving an inordinate amount of coverage to Tesla cars, because they know it gets them more attention — is the rather arbitrary and inexpert nature of their ratings. If CR’s ratings were self-consistent and appeared to be based on reasonable, knowledgeable standards, then I would certainly not be complaining. However, when they give a list of a car’s features/systems covered and the worst rating they give to any feature/system is one single “fair”, with everything else getting better ratings and several getting “excellent”, but then they turn around and give the car an overall “poor” rating (see link below)… it seems astonishingly inconsistent. Similarly, to issue a rating for a car as if it had a feature when it was merely anticipated, but then later at some arbitrary date change the rating because the rollout was delayed, again seems to show an astonishing lack of consistency. Does CR change its rating of other cars in the middle of the year just because something anticipated was delayed? My guess is “No!” Altho I’ve seen thru my own personal experience that Consumer Reports couldn’t be relied on… Read more »
unlucky
No, CR doesn’t reduce their rating on other cars when something anticipated isn’t delivered on time. CR doesn’t INCREASE their rating on other cars when something is anticipated. For other cars it is “what you see is what you get”. This is the inconsistency and it is is only now belatedly rectified. CR was giving Tesla credit for a feature that didn’t exist simply because Musk said it would later. That was an error. Error fixed. I don’t know if I would say CR come off as amateurs. Amateurs do a far worse job of evaluating cars than this even simply because amateurs frequently only closely investigate (i.e. own) a very limited numbers of cars. But they do have problems with their methods, in implementation and in design. These affect everybody, making a stink about it when it affects your favorite car is really cherry-picking. Put it this way, every company suffers and benefits in different ways frequently from their methods. Any expensive car (as a Tesla is) gains significant advantage due to the inherent errors of self-reporting. If you spend $100K on a car you are less likely to report problems as it calls into question your decision to… Read more »
Nix

Yes, CR’s error. Yet it is Tesla’s name that is being drag through the mud due to CR’s error.

The headlines don’t read “CR admits they made a mistake” They all read “Tesla safety downgraded”.

Instead of CR admitting they made an error, they instead downgrade Tesla ONE DAY before Tesla had already announced they would be putting out the update. (It is right in CR’s own press release that they knew Tesla was planning on releasing it tomorrow, so they knew).

At that point, they should have simply kept their mouth shut about their error for a day. Then tomorrow, announced that they had previously made a mistake when originally rating the Tesla Model S and Model X, but that the rating was now correct after the update.

unlucky

You’re repeating the error!

The update didn’t come out the next day. It was ANNOUNCED the next day. The update is, as of the next day (today) still just talk. To give Tesla credit for talk is to make the same mistake again.

The rating should be reduced until the car actually has the feature and it can be evaluated to see that it works sufficiently well. And we’re not at that point yet.

Nix

You stated much further below that you wish you could edit this post. When I get something wrong in a post, I simply post a correction immediately afterwords. It happens. We are all human.

Please go ahead and repost your correction.

PS — I should point out that Tesla confirm that technically they actually started the rollout the night of the 25th. So Tesla actually began installs BEFORE the CR report was even released on the 26th.

https://electrek.co/2017/04/26/consumer-reports-downgrades-tesla-automatic-emergency-braking/

Dirk Wont

Behold! The Fan Boi in his natural habitat! Feast your eyes upon the uncritical nature of his tender gaze at Tesla.

Get Real

Hey look, a new username pops up here to spout anti-Tesla rhetoric!

I wonder which of the existing shills, shorters and haters this person is???

WARREN

Interesting that Lexus and BMW are the highest rated now.

Nix

Except for the fact that as of earlier today, Lexus and BMW aren’t anymore.

The Tesla’s with the AEB update technically now qualify for CR’s prior ratings, and are back on top based upon CR’s prior standards.

vdiv

The breakup with Mobileye was not without consequences.

bro1999

Pretty funny how that as soon as CR downgrades the S and X due to lack of AEB, Tesla suddenly has the update ready to be pushed out literally the next day after 4 months of delays.

Does anyone really think Tesla was planning on releasing the update this week prior to them finding out about the CR downgrade?

I bet there was still some internal testing to be done, but then CR downgraded the S and X, so Elon went “Nevermind that additional QC! Release it now because it’s good enough!”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sven

bro1999 said:

“. . . so Elon went “Nevermind that additional QC! Release it now because it’s good enough!”

Spot on analysis on what went on behind the scenes at Tesla this morning. But you should have hit your browser’s refresh button before posting. There’s now an update to the story.

*UPDATE: Bloomberg is reporting that Tesla is taking swifter action than expected in response to this scoring downgrade. Apparently, Tesla is rolling out the update now.”

How prophetic! Elon must have read your comment. LOL! 😀

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sven

Oops. I just realized that you did see the update and it was me who refreshed the page to read the comments but didn’t reread the story and see the update. In my defense, I’m still half asleep until I’ve had my second cup of coffee.

bro1999

It’s basically what he’s doing with the Model 3 release as well (i.e. cutting corners).

No rolling out a test fleet of Model 3 mules (like GM did with the Bolt 18 months prior to its launch), and instead moving straight to production vehicles “sold” to employees that will serve as the beta testing phase instead.

And utilizing “advanced analytical techniques” to replace real world testing. “Advanced analytical techniques” = computer simulations, btw.

Good luck to the first real, non-Tesla customers that get the first Model 3’s. You’ll probably need it!

HVACman

re: Relying on advanced computer simulation in lieu of real-world experience:

From 1986’s “Aliens”

Ripley: How many drops for you is this,lieutenant?
Gorman: Thirty-eight. Simulated.
Vasquez: How many combat drops?
Gorman: Uh, two. Including this one.
Drake: S@#t.
Hudson: Oh-ho, man…

ffbj

Woo! Hoo!

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

blahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
😛

Nix

bro1999 —

How is the automatic braking system in your Bolt working for you?

Or, right, your Bolt doesn’t have that feature, and your Bolt never will no matter how many software updates…..

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

“How prophetic! Elon must have read your comment. LOL!”

See bro! YOU can make a difference!!!!!

Nix
Just so we all work on the same facts, here is the timeline: The day before the Consumer Reports downgrade announcement, on Apr. 25th 2017 3:34 pm ET inside sources in Tesla had already said this: “A reliable source familiar with Tesla’s Autopilot program told Electrek that the team is now satisfied with the feature and it should be gradually released by the end of the week through an over-the-air software update” This was later officially confirmed by Tesla on the 25th, the day before the Consumer Reports downgrade. https://electrek.co/2017/04/25/tesla-automatic-emergency-braking-autopilot-2-0-hardware/ _______________________________ A day later, on April 26, 2017, Consumer Reports releases their downgrade in this announcement. In the CR statement, they state that “Tesla says it expects the software update to come Thursday.” Thursday would be April 27th, 2017. This is entirely consistent with the report on the 25th saying this feature would be “gradually released by the end of the week”. http://www.consumerreports.org/tesla/tesla-model-s-loses-top-ratings-spot/ ____________________ In summary: 4/25 — software reported done and ready for install. 4/26 — Tesla states the install will start on 4/27 (as reported by Consumer Reports). Also on 4/26 — After the CR story, Tesla announces that the software that had already been reported as complete… Read more »
Nix

Tesla said on March 30th that “priority right now is to enable Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB)”

unlucky

I’m sure they said that. And i’m sure it was their priority, given that is a major missing piece and a strict necessity to get a top safety rating (top safety pick+ for US/IIHS, I forget the rating in Euro NCAP). So surely they were prioritizing it.

But it’s very hard to see this announcement as a coincidence. A lawsuit was initiated and CR started stirring the pot too, surely that added a lot of pressure to release this feature sooner rather than later.

Now we’ll get to see how well it works. When Tesla pushed out AP for HW2 at the end of a quarter it became rapidly clear the release date was more determined by the calendar than the quality. If collision prevention doesn’t seem fully developed at release we’ll have even more reason to suspect it was shipped due to mandate more than being ready. If on the other hand it works as well as competing cars (including HW1) then we’ll have less reason to continue believing it released mostly due to scheduling.

Nix

The timeline doesn’t fully support that:

3/30: Tesla announced AEB is highest priority
4/19: Lawsuit filed by owners for lack of AEB (and other features)
4/25: Tesla announced AEB software complete and ready to install
4/26: CR downgrades, says Tesla will install 4/27 Tesla installs 1 day early instead.

Tesla’s announcement of making AEB their highest priority predates all of those events. Are you suggesting that Elon has perfected time travel, and went back to 3/30 to make that announcement?

unlucky

9/30: talk (Tesla announces the car will soon have AEB)
3/30: talk (Tesla announces the car will soon have AEB)
4/19: lawsuit filed
4/25 (24?): talk (Tesla announces the car will soon have AEB)
4/25: CR announces they are downgrading the car because Tesla has done nothing but talk.

Tesla’s announcement that AEB is important to them and they will get back to you with the feature as soon as possible predates CR’s announcement by months. And that is the crux of the problem. It is impossible to say Tesla deserves credit for something they didn’t do.

Note: above I said that Tesla hasn’t started to roll the update out yet. Apparently they have begun. I would edit the above post if I could, but that’s not possible.

Nix

“4/25: CR announces they are downgrading the car because Tesla has done nothing but talk.”

You have your dates wrong. Straight from the primary source, Consumer Reports themselves:

Consumer Reports lowers rating for ultraluxury sedan because standard safety feature still missing
By Jeff Plungis
April 26, 2017

What part of the announcement being made on April 26, 2017 makes you think the announcement was made on the 25th?

Nix

Revised timeline based upon latest information:

3/30: Tesla announced AEB is highest priority
4/19: Lawsuit filed by owners for lack of AEB (and other features)
4/25: (Day) Tesla announced AEB software complete and ready to install
4/25: (Evening) Tesla begins OTA installs
4/26: CR downgrades, says Tesla will install 4/27. Tesla announces they have already started the install.

Pushmi-Pullyu

Well, let’s just say it seems reasonable to believe that this additional bit of negative publicity, the latest excuse Consumer Reports has found to do yet another article on Tesla’s cars, pushed the rollout of automatic emergency braking for Autopilot HW 2.0 somewhat higher on Tesla’s “to do” list.

Suggesting that Tesla is doing this only as a response to CR’s downgrade seems unjustified. If it wasn’t already being worked on, I think it rather unlikely they could roll it out on such short notice.

Pushmi-Pullyu

Hmmm, wish I’d read Nix’s post before posting my response.

I’m not sure if that indicates coincidence, or if that indicates that CR rushed this into print to coincide with what they knew Tesla was already planning on doing.

In either case, it certainly doesn’t lessen my cynicism over how CR is repeatedly using controversy over Tesla’s cars to generate publicity for their magazine. I guess it’s working for them or they wouldn’t keep doing it.

pjwood1

More Idiot-Proofing, to cars already equipped with ABS.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

+1

Serial anti tesla troll thomas

Sorry but my 6 year old Infiniti EX37 has this function when cruise control is activated.

Four Electrics

Tesla, as ever, remains easy to troll. And kudos to Consumer Reports for keeping the safety bar high.

Get Real

“Tesla, as ever, remains easy to troll.” By Four Electrics.

Confessions of a serial anti-Tesla troll and shorter!!!

Pushmi-Pullyu

“…easy to troll”.

No, it’s just that you’ve had so very much practice at it. 😐

Nix

“easy troll” — like yo mama.

needa

So days after a class action lawsuit is announced for their lack of AEB in HW2, CR does this.
I am not implying anything,just pointing it out.

needa

I should also point out that this might be the reason Tesla is ready with the update. I’d imagine they have been working on it pretty hard since getting notification of the lawsuit.

Pushmi-Pullyu

That certainly appears to be the most likely scenario. Again, I find it odd the article doesn’t even mention the class action lawsuit, which IMHO is far more significant and newsworthy than this latest case of sniping from Consumer Reports.

needa

Same

G2

CR stays independent to avoid corporate influence in what they say.
For that alone they are to be commended.

TomArt

Yeah…WTF, Tesla?!? The timing is downright sinister, unless bro is correct that Musk stepped in (certainly not an unreasonable conjecture).

AJ

Emergency Braking is a weird thing. It abruptly stops the car (MS90D AP1) when I’m trying to navigate (slowly crawl) into my garage. The way into it is rather narrow but it doesn’t really mean that I’m so stupid to hit any obstacles. Had to turn the feature off. Another example, if a road has a sort of a chicane when you need to take a left lane from a right one sometimes it screams like I’m about to drive straight into parked cars or something else.

Pushmi-Pullyu

Maybe the headline should read “Consumer Reports Flip-Flops Yet Again on Tesla Rating to Gin Up More Controversy”.

Consumer Reports downgrades their rating of Tesla cars, yet again? Maybe it’s time for us consumers to downgrade our rating of Consumer Reports! 🙁

Go Tesla!

vdiv

Tesla should have waited to release AP2 HW until they had feature parity with AP1 and until they were sure the hardware was sufficient. After the lethal incident and the break up with Mobileye there was pressure to move on. I don’t think Tesla cares as much about Consumer Reports as they do with a lot of unhappy customers who are not staying silent. AP3 hardware already appears to be on the Model 3 and Tesla apparently continues to look at LIDAR so things will continue to be in flux for a long time.

Go Tesla indeed! Just watch where you’re stepping.

Nix

Why would you have doomed 50,000 Tesla buyers to be locked into the old outdated hardware for the rest of the lives of their vehicle? Over a 4 month delay from their original target date?????

That is nonsense.

needa

I think HW2 peeps are just as doomed.

Nix

HW2 already provides new features that have been live for a while that HW1 never supported and never would.

HW2 is still only using a fraction of their camera’s to become at parity with AP1 on existing AP1 features.

Only a fraction of the HW2’s full capabilities have been brought online. You sound rather short-sighted and ill-informed when you make comments like that.

needa

I just think they will be adding LIDAR later on. They are way behind the eight ball right now, and are no longer showing/reminding us how great their idea of no LIDAR is.

vdiv

Because the AP2 system was not ready, yet the expectations of it were already set and too high. And also because AP1 was working better (still is).

Nix

And in weeks or months AP2 will have all the features that AP1 had, PLUS all the NEW features that AP2 already has that AP1 could never do. Then what would you say? **

Way to prove how short-sighted you are.

_________________________

** – nevermind, I know you will say some ignorant Tesla bashing stuff no matter what happens in the upcoming weeks/months.

vdiv

Shortsighted is alienating customers by selling them promises that you fail to achieve and in the process endangering their lives and then blaming them for not knowing any better.

Nix

short-sighted is not realizing that the new system will go past parity very soon, and save MORE lives in the long run. And that leaving 50,000 customers behind on the old hardware for the rest of the lifespan of the vehicle would save fewer lives over 20 years than staying on HW2 for 20 weeks.

Apparently you don’t know that 20 weeks is less than 20 years….

But thanks for proving me right that you will say some ignorant anti-tesla junk no matter what.

unlucky
Six month delay. At least. There is no reason Tesla desired to have any gap at all in AP functionality. That it didn’t come out working on HW2 for six months after HW1 was discontinued shows at least a six month delay from the desired release date. Honestly, until AP for HW2 works as well as AP for HW1 the HW2 people are still on the wrong end of the stick. And as that goes on longer and longer it starts to be a case that having HW1 so you could have a better solution in the meantime would have been a net positive instead of negative. On the contrary side though, I talked to one of my many Tesla-owning friends who has HW1 and he feels slighted over this whole process. He’s not so unhappy that he doesn’t have HW2, but that now with HW2 existing Tesla will never make HW1 work as well as they promised. He says that Tesla promised HW1 would be self-driving some day (this could be construed from Musk’s comments about cross-country summon among other things) and now he’s quite sure that will never happen. And he’s probably right. On another note, I have… Read more »
Nix

unlucky — the gap was in order to get the hardware into the hands of owners ASAP, so they wouldn’t be stuck forever with the old hardware.

Yes, the gap was intentional, with a Dec. target date.

4 month delay.

unlucky

The gap was NOT intentional. There is no way they intended to remove their 2nd most famous feature from their car. They failed to put in place a plan which they could follow through on to offer feature parity from day one.

They also failed to put in place a plan which they could follow through to offer feature parity from day 91 or 110.

They may have made it by day 120 though. We’ll see when the feature is tested.

Nix
I think you’ve confused Tesla and Elon Musk with Fiat and Sergio Marchionne. You sound like the ICE can fanatics who say they wouldn’t touch an EV until it can drive 500 miles, charge in 5 minutes, with as many charging stations as there are gas stations. Tesla has never let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It is folks like Sergio and Fiat who sit around and do the bare minimum, while Tesla breaks all the new ground first. ________________ But the proof is in the numbers. Starting in October, around 20,000 Tesla buyers made the decision to buy a Model S or X with HW2 with nothing more than a target date of December. Another 30,000 more people bought the Model S or X ALREADY KNOWING that Tesla had missed the December target date. If they wanted to wait until the feature was ready and released before they bought their car, nobody was stopping them from waiting until it was released. They didn’t. Tesla actually knows their customers better than you. No, they aren’t the folks sitting on the sideline like Sergio, and neither is Tesla. They aren’t making Perfect the Enemy of the Good, they… Read more »
Pushmi-Pullyu

vdiv said:

“I don’t think Tesla cares as much about Consumer Reports as they do with a lot of unhappy customers who are not staying silent.”

Well, I wrote my comment before reading in comments here that a class action lawsuit was filed from Tesla car owners over this very subject; the delay in rolling out ABS for Autopilot HW 2.0. Seems strange that wasn’t mentioned in the article.

Yeah, after reading about that, it seems the CR downgrade is just a footnote to the real story, which is Tesla dragging its feet over this so long that customers got fed up and filed a class action lawsuit.

That’s the way to get Tesla’s attention, all right!

Nix

I’m sure the lawsuit got their attention, but I’m not sure that even Tesla can respond so quickly to a lawsuit filed on the 19th, that they could deliver a new version of their software by the 25th. That only leaves 3 business days (20th, 21st, and 24th) in between.

Either Tesla is THE FASTEST company in the history of the world to ever act after a lawsuit is filed, or Tesla already had the software done and ready for mastering and final testing by the time the lawsuit was filed.

Considering how many years it has taken for GM and other companies to respond to lawsuit after lawsuit over stuff like ignition switches, I’m really not sure how it would be so horribly bad if Tesla actually could respond so quickly to a lawsuit with that quick of action.

I don’t really think it played out that way, but wouldn’t it be a GOOD thing if a car company actually reacted that fast, vs car company after car company that go years or decades before acting on even worse safety issues?

A response that fast would frankly be industry crushingly fast. It would be absolutely unprecedented in automotive history.

unlucky
Why would I downgrade CR for finally getting this right? They never should have given Tesla a grade that assumes that a feature which doesn’t exist actually exists or will exist. Even if it does come to exist later you can’t tell how well it works until that happens. So how can you evaluate the value of that feature (safety feature!) and factor it in today? Look it it this way. What if after Musk said that summon would drive across the parking lot and pick you up at the door CR gave the cars credit for that. Later of course we found out that summon only could drive your car forward 50 feet in a (nearly) straight line? Would CR be serving its customers well by giving credit for one thing when Tesla delivered something completely different? It’s really time to stop grading Tesla’s cars on hype and start to grade them like other cars. Grade them for what they actually can do. If you want to spend extra for a feature that might come later, then that’s fine. But grading the car as if it had that feature already doesn’t serve the purpose of critical evaluation because you… Read more »
BenG

The difference here is that CR had already tested Model S with the feature, so it’s not such a stretch for them to take Tesla on their word that it would be enabled soon and work as well as it did in the past.

But, on the whole, I agree with you. CR shouldn’t have given Tesla credit for the feature until it was enabled and tested in its new form.

Bill Howland

I’m not sure this is a related feature, but on my BOLT ev, the car is the first car I’ve ever owned that AUTOMATICALLY applies the parking brake, and, does it often.

If I stop too fast, it puts it on – if I’m on a slight incline, it puts it on, and when I park the car in the garage, it sometimes puts it on, sometimes not – but then if the car isn’t shut off the car will AUTOMATICALLY release it, when if applied manually you must also manually release it.

I don’t have any ‘collision avoidance’ options of any kind on the car so it is doubly annoying that it does this – especially its acting like a little kid ‘helping’ you to drive the car by putting on the parking brake when you least expect it.

I like the BOlt very much, but they “GM Arrogance Features” that all GM products have lately are learn-to-live-with frustrations.

BenG

Yeah, I love my 2012 Volt dearly, but EVERY SINGLE TIME I DRIVE IT, I am frustrated by the insane beeping of the proximity alert. Jesus I wish there was a way to upgrade or permanently disable it.

I wouldn’t mind it giving me the occasional helpful beep, but its behavior of shrill beeping alerting about the FRONT of the car being close to something that I parked near, upon shifting into REVERSE to back out of the parking space is counter-productive and very annoying.