Consumer Reports Discusses Tesla & Self-Driving Cars – Video


This episode of “Talking Cars With Consumer Reports” focuses almost entirely on Tesla:

“Other car companies promise self-driving cars, coming years in the future. Tesla just shrinked that timeframe to months, thanks to software updates to the Model S. With the technology leading legislation, this raises a bunch of questions. We discuss how the car is becoming a rolling supercomputer, how that affects vehicle design, and what this all means for driving enthusiasts.”

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When I imagine the guys behind the Consumer Reports reviews.. these guys fit the bill lol..

Anyways they talk about people being driving enthusists and wanting to drive fast but all that goes out the window with self driving cars.. the primary benefit of self driving cars is the order of magnitude improvement in safety.. which contradicts what “enthusists” like about driving their cars according to these guys. Fun and safe are inherently opposites when it comes to driving. A self driving car isn’t going to floor it in Insane Mode, and it’s not going to push the limits on a curvy road. These types of enthusists can go to a track, but for 99.9% of the population self driving cars are desired.

You’re way off.


Care to elaborate?

If you have to split it into two camps, self-driving vs. enthusiast, 99.9% isn’t the number of people who prefer self-driving. You seem to be making a mutually exclusive statement, which I don’t buy. I’m not .1% enthused about it, anyway 😉

No one is screaming “Take My MONEY!” for a Google Car…

I think they have a point.

I am.

I’d take a self driving Chevette over a manual drive Tesla any day.

It’d give me almost two hours back out of every day!

Time really is the only currency. 🙂

There will be market for it. The elderly and younger drivers will be just a few. Even though I like to think of myself as a driving enthusiast, I still would enjoy the ability to be distracted from driving on long trips and know the car can be as safe or safer while I am not driving. How about those people who sit in mindless traffic for hours every morning and evening; I am sure they would want a stress-free drive as well. It would still require the same time, but without having to spend time driving, instead can do work or leisure activities. How about autonomous uber-taxis just shuttling people around the big cities. The google car will be a bore, but having an autonomous Tesla Model S that you can drive you or you DRIVE it, sounds like a future I want to live in

I would consider myself a driving enthusiast. I’ve owned a variety of sportscars, motorcycles, muscle cars. I’ve tracked and raced cars wheel-to-wheel for over a decade. And I absolutely WELCOME self-driving cars, because driving on the street has become a joyless chore where I live (Los Angeles), with gridlock traffic, redlight cameras, increased parking/moving violation regulation/enforcement — and more to come. Where can you ‘enjoy’ your sportscar today, in a reasonably responsible manner on a public road, especially considering that performance cars’ limits have moved far beyond what can be explored at legal speeds? I have little doubt that fully autonomous cars will come, albeit in step-wise fashion, and that they will become the safety gold-standard. Drivers are ever-more distracted anyway, and I think most would rather focus their full attention on their facebook updates (rather than their current half attention). Piloting a car will eventually become a recreation for a few, to be enjoyed on closed courses… similar to horseback riding today.


And a few generations hence the people today saying “nobody will ever accept self-driving cars, they want to drive themselves” will be looked upon with amused tolerance.



A few generations, or 5 years?

I suspect it will be less time than people think as well (I would say 20 years before all vehicles are automated).

The real killer of manual driving cars will be insurance. Self Driving Car insurance $100 per year. Manual Driving Car insurance $2000 per year.

Spot on.

I was surprised by how enthusiastic the car enthusiasts in the video are about autonomous driving. Previously, I’ve written it off as an unnecessary luxury, but they got me thinking.

Love/hate the power play by Musk. While he is in danger of being a target for regulators, he suggests that we all might need to fear the day regulators restrict manual-human driving as unsafe.

I picture the kid who got caught using a graphing calculator on an algebra math test. The kid then reminds the class and parents that the school budget is just underfunded and when they get to calculus, graphing-calculators will be required for tests. The teacher looks a fool, and if the kid is smart enough to know how to use a graphing calculator, should he really in algebra at all?

Much as I love Tesla Motors, the “autopilot” is mostly hype. As has been pointed out, it’s impossible for the auto lane changing feature to work safely on public roads. (Even where the speed limit is low enough for theoretically safe use, the sensors’ range is much too short to detect a car approaching from behind if it is significantly exceeding the speed limit, in time to prevent an accident. In other words, this can’t replace the driver actually checking the rear view and blind spot mirrors before changing lanes.)

The “autopilot” features that can be safely implemented on public roads are the same ones other auto makers are already using, which they correctly label “driver assist” and not “autopilot”.

I’m surprised to see Consumer Reports reviewers buying into the hype. I thought they were better informed.

The guy Jake Fisher is like a little kid drunk with Tesla juices…

Alberto Zaragoza Comendador

“Other car companies promise self-driving cars, coming years in the future. Tesla just shrinked that timeframe to months, thanks to software updates to the Model S”

In other news, Consumer Reports just lost whatever credibility it could still have.

OS7 is supposed to deliver the highway autopilot functionality this year, which I suppose is what the CR people were talking about.

Cadillac, Audi, MB, etc have all talked about something similar and have existing systems that are a sort of halfway approach. None offer a true highway self-driving mode yet, and it’s not clear when they will (“near future”).

Good debate