# Completing The 52-Lap, 190 Mile British Grand Prix For £5 In A Nissan LEAF – Video

MAR 11 2016 BY MARK KANE 18

Sun Motors recently tested the Nissan LEAF on the Silverstone circuit.

The British Grand Prix for £5 in a Nissan Leaf

On the British Grand Prix’s race length of 306.291 km (190.32 mi) the LEAF naturally needed a quick recharge using a CHAdeMO charger.

But the main insight from the bizzare test seems to be the energy bill under £5 (\$7).

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18 Comments on "Completing The 52-Lap, 190 Mile British Grand Prix For £5 In A Nissan LEAF – Video"

Alaa

It seems that the British will not get used to the idea that electricity can be almost for free. % bob is not much but 6 solar panels in the UK will produce more electricity for a Leaf to run for 20 years. according to my calculation this 30 kWh batter will cost 30p to charge not 5 pounds.

Here is how I calculated it

years of solar panels 20
cost of panels 450
cost of watt solar panel 0.3
number of panels 6
watts per panel 250
watts per mile 250
sunshine hours 1500
watts from sun per year 2250000
total watts of life time of panels 45000000
cost of watt of life time of panels 0.00001
30kw true cost 0.3

I don’t know how much is distribution cost, but CA is about half the bill. You’re also not including land, labor to install, maintenance (even just to clean them), insurance, and on and on. Add them all up, and solar may not be so rosy.

As a comparison, natural gas cost about \$2USD for 293kWh. Assume 25% efficiency (some are as high as 60%), that’s \$0.0017/kWh. USD->gbp exchange result in 0.0012/kWh. For 30kWh, that’s 0.035 gpb to fully charge, far away from 5 gpb. Obviously, things are not that simple.

Nemo

Well of course he’s not including land or distribution costs, he’s talking about putting panels on his roof.

Alaa

Thank you. If I may I add it rains regularly up there on this island on the north east of the Atlantic. So you do not have to clean them ever.

I considered that but that’s not realistic. He’ll need 14 panels just to 3.3kW, not including cloudy days. He’ll need to stay home during the day to charge, and he cannot drive on “bad” days. How to quantify those factor’s isn’t clear, but one could go by lease payment or one’s hourly wage. Then the cost is astronomical. But if you factor in distribution, etc. on grid scale, it become less, though still complicated and not as simple as he lays out.

KUD

Being a proud owner of solar panels for the last 6 yrs, I have to say you have no clue. I haven’t paid an electric bill in that time and maintenance has been \$0.00. Cleaning them happens every time it rains.

You did not get your system for free. If you’re not paying the bill, how do you get electricity at night? I suspect you get net metering (ie, fossil fuel), which is being phased out or reduced in many areas.

Then you need more panels to make up during the day (in case of reduced) or storage (in case of no net metering) to have no bill. With Powerwall (10kWh, 3 hours, \$3K), you’d need 3 of them to power entire night, probably more to cover bad days.

Your individual cost depends on your situation and subsidy. But simply looking at energy and saying it’s cheaper makes no sense. If that’s the case, nobody would make ANY fossil fuel or wind or hydro or nuke plants.

Alaa

It beats me why they build them! Maybe because there are people like you who are willing to pay for something that they can do themselves?

Someone out there

So where do I get free solar panels then? Installed for free of course.

ModernMarvelFan

“Here is how I calculated it”

Sorry there are some way too optimistic calculations here

“years of solar panels 20”

Yes, Agreed.

“cost of panels 450”

After incentives, maybe.

“cost of watt solar panel 0.3”

No way. If a panel with 250W cost 450, then per W cost \$1.8/W. Typically install system cost

“number of panels 6”

That is a small installation.

“watts per panel 250”

Typical ones are only 225W to 245W. 250W is generally more expensive.

“watts per mile 250”

That is 4 miles/kwh. Way too optimistic if you “drive normally” and using heat. Even if you get that, you didn’t include the 10-15% charging loss.

“sunshine hours 1500”

Depending on your location and installation angle. It is possible. By your solar output drops 0.5% per year. So, if you are getting that in year 1, you won’t get that by the time year 10 rolls around.

“watts from sun per year2250000
total watts of life time of panels 45000000
cost of watt of life time of panels 0.00001
30kw true cost 0.3”

Only if you don’t count of the cost of upfront capital.

There are lots of “optimistic assumption” there.

Even Solar City doesn’t even give you the \$0.03/kWh cost over 20 years…

Their cost is around \$0.09/kWh

Alaa
ffbj

Funny at 1:24 there is a brief sort of carnival sounding song, it’s
“I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts:”

evcarnut

\$7 is reasonable , HOWEVER.,Let’s N0t forget to pro-rate in, the battery degradation cost part of it. You’ll pay that balance of the bill in some form or another, when it’s time to replace the Battery Pack..

offib

So you say you’re an ev, car nut? Nonsense.

evcarnut

I am an EV CAR NUT .I am dead set on a new EV. The nonsense comes in when you don’t look both ways before crossing. There are Pros & Cons….Next time I’ll Lie & tell you 0nly what you want to hear,, 0nly the good stuff. I also realize , that you gotta break some eggs if you wanna make an ommlette…..

Actually, I think this is not nutty and he makes sense. Along the same lines, one should take car’s depreciation into account.

evcarnut

Good Point! Thank You!