CLEVER To Add 100 ABB Multi-Standard Fast Chargers In Denmark & Sweden


A CLEVER charging point in Denmark Gets Used By A Renault Zoe

A CLEVER charging point in Denmark Gets Used By A Renault Zoe

CLEVER, the largest charging operator in Denmark has announced it will add a further 100 multi-standard chargers in its home market and parts of greater Scandinavia.

A Tesla Model S Gets Some CLEVER Charging

A Tesla Model S Gets Some CLEVER Charging From Via An ABB Terra 53 Multi-Standard Unit

Some of these units will be part of a plan to install more than 500 fast charging stations by the end of 2015 in Denmark alone – and for once this is not a fanciful dream of a start-up provider with no track record.  Through mid-November CLEVER already has 322 units online.

The multi-standard units will be supplied by ABB, with the majority of units to Denmark and Sweden (of which includes a first collaboration with Öresundskraft).

Editor’s Note: A good bulk of the expansion in the EU now is supported/co-financed by the European TEN-T funding program, which is a new infrastructure policy implement this year.

The 100 new chargers will all be Terra 53 DC fast charging stations.

“For EV consumers and network operators it is critical to have confidence that EV charging is as available, reliable, and convenient as traditional mobility. That makes it critical for rapidly emerging markets to have partners who not only offer hardware but also the experience and proven solutions for commerce, administration and related services, and who understand how to connect all this to the grid.” – Lars Bording, CLEVER CEO

Otto Preiss, head of ABB’s Power Conversion business, also released a statement on the charger buy

“Our cooperation with CLEVER demonstrates that the industry is moving to the next level of rapid expansion based on innovative business partnerships. ABB is delighted to work with a market-leader such as CLEVER to continue opening new frontiers and setting industry benchmarks.”

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19 responses to "CLEVER To Add 100 ABB Multi-Standard Fast Chargers In Denmark & Sweden"
  1. Scott says:

    Good luck. Every ABB station in our area is broken. They’re the only unreliable DCQC’s I’ve come across on the Front Range.

    1. “Every ABB station in our area is broken” – only means something if you tell us where your area is!

      Now – thanks for the Slice: Do you have any suggestions of alternative products to use? What Brand Level 3 DCQC Multi-Standard units do you recommend?

      1. Alok says:

        You mean, you’re from Clever?

        If so, congratulations for doing something nice, as a business!

        I have no direct experience with chargers, but I’ve thought quite a bit about them and what comes to my mind is that very soon (in 2-3years) affordable 150-200 miles BEVs will start to be available (Nissan Leaf for one).
        This fact, together with more and more Teslas being around that could also make use of ChaDeMo (and maybe later CCS?) chargers (through the adapter now being shipped), when no convenient Supercharger is available, leads me to think that what makes more sense NOW is to install 100 kW (not just 50 kW) chargers (I think the CCS, at least, supports such power), connected to two charging (parking) stalls, ideally with both ChaDeMo and CCS plugs for each stall (so, two of each – that’s the ideal).

        In this way, not only the chargers will be able to supply a greater, needed power, to EVs with bigger batteries coming fairly soon (a charger lasts much longer than 2-3 years…), but they would immediately be useful in reducing “charge anxiety” (related to the possibility of finding a lone charger busy – the likeliness of which is vastly reduced by doubling them) for the current short range BEVs (since, in that case, two BEVs could charge at max speed – 50 kW – simultaneously).

        50 kW chargers… I think in a few years long range BEVs will dominate the market. And these chargers will just be not fast enough for them.

        The great thing about long range BEVs is that, besides offering twice the range (approximately) at start, they can also be charged at twice the speed. That is, if the chargers are fast enough.

        I think that, at least for the vast majority of drivers (not EV-heads), to reduce as much as possible the inconveniences of EV drive is essential for their adoption.

        I understand there’s a higher initial cost to the solution I suggest, but I think that’s money much better spent.
        Also: considering that a 100 kW charger with double plugs costs substantially less than 2 50 kW chargers, and the installation costs for a 100 kW are probably just a little higher than for a 50 kW (certainly not double), having to spend a certain amount of available money, I’d go for installing 100 kW chargers only.
        I’d guess that, for the same total costs of buying/installing 100 50 kW chargers, one could buy/install about 75 100 kW (“double”) chargers. That would mean serving 50% more cars (150 instead of 100 at 50 kW at a time).

        So, even just for this reason, even without bigger batteries coming fairly soon, I’d say this is a better solution.
        Of course, they’ll be a little less spread. But if you’re going to install lots of them, that should be enough.
        (I guess this is the critical point to evaluate)

        I might be unaware of some technical or other issues, of course. In that case, I’d like to know what they are.

        Also: the contract with the electricity supplier could be, initially, for a lower power, at it could be raised as needed.
        But the hardware (chargers and wiring, …) should support 100 kW.

        And this is sort of the minimum, since, in a near future, chargers able to supply 100 kW to 2 EVs at a time would be sort of necessary.
        But I guess there’s time for that…

        Anyway, you know better, for sure.

        Concerning the availability of such 100 kW chargers with double plugs…
        I think it’s up to the companies installing these networks of chargers to request the manufacturing of a specific product to the manufacturers (ABB,…).

        We read that KYA is installing 100 kW chargers (not with double plugs – I mean, with just one plug per standard, not two, I believe).

        Funny, there was a Dutch company (you might be aware of it), called Epyon, that had started selling 250 kW chargers (I think it was around 2011) with the possibility to connect 4 plugs, with “any” programmable standard (very flexible, I mean).
        So, any combination of powers for the different plugs, for a total max of 250 kW was possible.

        That was really GREAT.

        (And one was actually installed, at a gas station in Holland. Maybe it’s still there…??)

        Then I read ABB bought Epyon, and no trace anymore of those ideal products.
        I suspect someone wants to sell a lot of 50 kW chargers that will soon be sort of useless to then be able to sell more of the more powerful ones…
        Hope I’m wrong…

        Anyway, that was to say that, technically, there should be no issues.

        Again, congratulations, and all the best!

        PS: Teslas could take advantage of the higher power only if
        – ChaDeMo also supports it, or
        – CCS adapters for Teslas would also start to be offered (don’t know if that’s a possibility, also from a technical point of view).
        Of course, like any other EV, Teslas would anyway enjoy the reduced chance of finding the charger busy.

      2. yuba says:

        I Have been driving a Nissan Leaf for two years and have used fast chragers a lot. Call me a nerd, but since I got stranded 2 times because of a failing charger, I started to remember which brands of charger are located where, and how good they are. We have some 4-5 types of DC fast chargers around.

        My conclusions for now are:

        ABB-old type (big box, only chademo cable)- very reliable
        ABB-new type (smaller, 3 cable)-very reliable
        Efacec (3 cables) – not too bad, but I have faced some issues with this one
        DBT CEV – terrible, less than 50% chance it works
        Big box unit (cannot find the brand on it) – tried it two times but both times trouble.

        Anyway, I sort of remember which station is where, and I am starting to plan my route based on it. for the ABB, i trust it, for Efacec, it’s sot of ok, but I always think about a back-up plan in case it does not work. For DBT CEV, I avoid them. Maybe if you like serious gambling this could be your type of machine 🙂

        1. Pairing of 2, or more DCFC’s solves the reliability issue and reduces congestion.

          The single connection per station model was phased out by most gasoline stations in the 1940’s and 1950’s due to lost business from a single point failure and/or customers bypassing when a station had a queue.

      3. Scott says:

        Not trying to cut anyone’s efforts down Robert. But if I call it like it is, based on my personal experience, maybe EV infrastructure has a better chance of success.

        I’m lead to believe by local dealerships and the business offices that manage these chargers, that ABB does not have parts immediately available. No big deal, but none of these chargers are heavily used. What happens when EV’s are 20% of the market?

    2. Jim says:

      We have many ABB quick chargers in our area, and i have a totally different experience. They are the only ones that are always working perfectly.

      I never had a problam with the ABB units but had many problems with others

      1. Arnelil says:

        In Norway there is a lot of ABB stations and they are usually working well. Seem more reliable than others.

        Especially dc chargers by DBT/Nissan are terrible.
        Main problem in general is we have too little fast chargers.quite often i have too wait because it is occupied

      2. Mutwin Kraus says:

        Same here. I only once had a problem with one of the earliest CCS units that Fastned built, but that one was replaced quickly and including 7 CLEVER chargers I’ve not had another issue with a ABB unit.

    3. Mikael says:

      I strongly disagree. My experience is the other way around with ABB chargers being the only one you can be sure are working properly.

      1. Scott says:

        How can you disagree if you don’t live here? 4 of the 5 CHAdeMO chargers in my area are unreliable. 3 of them are ABB.

        I’ll show you.

        1. Mikael says:

          Your experience is your experience of course. 🙂 I strongly disagreed that they are not very reliable in general (which doesn’t help you if your local ones for some reason are unreliable though).

          Your first post were a bit surprising and like me ever other poster it seems like your experience is an exception.

          I hope the situation changes for you.

    4. krona2k says:

      I thought ABB were quite reliable. We have mainly DBT in the UK and they don’t have a good track record.

      Is making a reliable rapid DC chargers difficult? We routinely reliably switch and route far greater power levels so you’d think not.

      1. Scott says:

        Check plugshare around Fort Collins, CO. 3 of 3 down or working intermittently. The AV QC is the only one working properly (most of the time.)

        It’s been a sad year for QC around here as some dealers on the Front Range of CO have all but blocked use of the QC’s that do work.

  2. io says:

    Wait, what’s on that 2nd picture? A Model S using a (hidden) CHAdeMO adapter?

    1. Al S says:

      It could be a CHAdeMO adapter. It could be the European AC type 2 plug. A Model S with dual chargers would get 22kW there.

      I am hoping 3-standard stations will come to North America with CHAdeMO, CCS, and Tesla connectors.

      1. Arnelil says:

        It looks like the CHademo adapter because the middle cable is the chademo. I always use it on my leaf

  3. Scott says:

    Looks like we have the cheaper CHAdeMO units around here. Maybe altitude effects them negatively?

  4. Ahldor says:

    Just as note regarding Scandinavia:

    Scandinavia (Skandinavien/Skandinavia) is by the historical definition Denmark, Norway and Sweden – all countries that speak similar native languages.

    But for people who live in Scandinavia the term Norden (Nordic countries) is actually more important since, in addition to the Scandinavian countries, also Finland and Iceland are a part of Norden (the Nordic countries). The big thing is that as a resident in one of these five countries (actually Greenland too, which is kinda Danish territory) you don’t need a passport when you go to any other country in Norden.

    That agreement has been around for ages, long before EU was around. As a EU resident within the Schengen area, you can travel to other Schengen EU countries as long as you have an EU approved ID card (so you don’t actually need a real passport then either).

    Hm, that was that.