China-U.S. Electric Car Workshop Focuses On Cooperation, Standardization

AUG 10 2015 BY STAFF 12

China-U.S. Electric Car Workshop

China-U.S. Electric Car Workshop

Sadly, the media has mostly missed this bit of important news, and we did too – at least for awhile.

On June 9, in Beijing, China, 75 experts from the U.S. and China met to discuss electric cars.  More specifically, the discussions focused on standardization of electric vehicles.

During the workshop, several topics were focused on, including “standards, conformance, and training programs among industry and government stakeholders to facilitate the growth of the EV market,” according to Green Car Congress.

The U.S.-China electric car workshop is part of an ongoing collaborative effort between the two nations.  There are several parties involved:

The full-day workshop was convened as part of the US-China Standards and Conformance Cooperation Program (SCCP) and was hosted by the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST), the Standardization Administration of China (SAC), and the US Trade and Development Agency (USTDA). The American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and the China Automotive Technology and Research Center (CATARC) served as organizers. Several private-sector sponsors also supported the event, including Qualcomm, as a Diamond Sponsor, and Contemporary Amperex Technology Limited (CATL), the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), and Underwriters Laboratories (UL), as Platinum Sponsors.

So, yes, it’s a big deal.

Other topics covered included:

“…vehicle and battery safety, charging infrastructure safety and interoperability, wireless charging, and fire protection and emergency response.”

The goal of the collaborative program is “to work together to adopt and use common, globally accepted standards and conformance programs that will facilitate market access and trade for US companies exporting to China, and Chinese companies entering the US market.  In other words, we must work collaboratively to avoid coming up with conflicting solutions that increase costs for industry, costs which ultimately are passed on to the consumer,” states Joe Bhatia, ANSI president and CEO.

The workshop has convened 14 times now.  6 more meetings will be held in the near future.  Then the three-year program will be re-evaluated before moving forward.

Source: Green Car Congress

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12 Comments on "China-U.S. Electric Car Workshop Focuses On Cooperation, Standardization"

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Yes, all cheaper U.S. EVs should get the XC90’s interior 😉

Just send all the US EVs to Sweden and it shall be done 🙂

Maybe the US and Chinese sides will do the smart thing and settle on common plug designs and charger protocols, which would benefit both countries. No one gains by designing in incompatibility. CHAdeMo/SAE Combo is hard enough, let’s not have more. Tesla is its own world.

Tesla offered it’s powerful network to any car company willing to participate in it’s growth and maintenance.
It is the obvious choice, except that the Auto-Petro cartel want’s Tesla dead…

Well . . . we don’t know what Tesla has for terms. Hopefully they are reasonable and nondiscriminatory.

If Tesla had unreasonable terms to buy into the SC Network then the terms would have leaked by a competitor.

I think it likely Supercharger will at least become the Silicon Valley standard if Apple Motors, Faraday Future and/or Atieva make it to market.

I don’t see anything directly constructive to charging standards.

This country won’t likely move from J1772 for AC power, and DC power wasn’t represented by SAE, therefore I doubt they are trying to strong arm China to adopt CCS.

I don’t see China using any “Japanese” standard, even if it is the same worldwide.

So, the smartest move would be a NextGen charging standard that:

1) handles single and three phase AC

2) high power DC up to 250kW (yes, double Tesla’s 370 amps, or about 700 amps)

That is very much like the existing China GB/T plug, or the Menekkes Type 2 plug that Tesla uses in Europe.

I suspect a version of the above (Type 2 or GB/T) with approval in USA, China and EU would overtake existing standards, and make a “world” standard.

Yes, Japan can do it, too, as the leap frog over CHAdeMO.

This unfortunately makes way too much sense.

So we will first suffer through endless competing standards for a decade until one emerges as the most popular, and we have to simply hope it will be the best because it very often isn’t.

+1 The magic 8-ball says: “Probability is High.”

The point of going with 250 kW power makes a lot of sense, particularly for use with electric buses which are just starting to catch on.

Also China has committed to electrifying 1000’s of km of highways in the next 3-5 years. Settling an a standard with ability to deliver higher power 150+ kW would be timely and be a major demonstration project.

Andy Palmer (this thing wont let me type) said his biggest complaint was nonstandard plugs.

If they’ve met this already,6 more wont help. US & chna are different anyway

I enthusiastically welcome any effort to establish actual standards (as opposed to the competing protocols we currently have) for EV charging. Unfortunately that’s a moving target. As new generations of EVs are sold with higher and higher capacity battery packs, capable of faster charging at higher current, any established standard will quickly become obsolete. This trend will continue until EV makers start making their EVs capable of ultra-fast charging; say, 300 miles of range in 10 minutes or even faster.

Will EV makers show they have vision, and establish standards not only for the present, but the future of EV charging? History strongly suggests they won’t.